[QUOTE=The Rifleman;48029478]Going shooting for the first time this Friday. My friend has a handgun and possibly a rifle he's bringing. What do i need to know to prepare, safety tips, etc?
We are doing this at a range not some backyard bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Wear ear pro unless you like tinnitus and not being able to hear things, clear a gun before you load it, and clear a gun once you're done shooting it, don't point the gun at anyone you don't intend to kill.
[QUOTE=GunFox;48025858]Ar15 rifles are generally 5.56, not .223. There is a difference.[/QUOTE]
It depends on the rifle. There are a lot of .223 sporting rifles that are intended more for hunting when designed. The difference between the two being .223 fires .223. A 5.56 rated barrel and receiver can fire .223 in addition to the 5.56.
It's actually not uncommon at all for the cheap ARs to be .223 rated barrels because the chambers aren't pressure rated for the hotter 5.56.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;48029628]It depends on the rifle. There are a lot of .223 sporting rifles that are intended more for hunting when designed. The difference between the two being .223 fires .223. A 5.56 rated barrel and receiver can fire .223 in addition to the 5.56.
It's actually not uncommon at all for the cheap ARs to be .223 rated barrels because the chambers aren't pressure rated for the hotter 5.56.[/QUOTE]
Then there are .223 Match, .223 Wylde, and 5.56 Noveske chambers...
Also, read this article for a better explanation of the .223 vs 5.56 debate
[url]http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/5-56-vs-223/[/url]
Recommandations for a combat ready, free float quad rail?
I figure I have a plain jane AR-15, so I want the other one to be tactical.
I went to a gun shop and a few pawn shops today, the cheapest o/u I found was $450, cheaped sxs was $400, and cheapest pump was $180
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Double barreled shotguns (and rifles, but we won't even get into that) are extremely expensive, especially quality ones. I hope you weren't under the impression they would be cheap. $400 is on the extreme low side of things, and I can guarantee that gun would have been poorly regulated garbage.
Expect to pay at least $1500 for anything to write home about.
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Get a pump gun if you want a cheap working gun.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48030795]I went to a gun shop and a few pawn shops today, the cheapest o/u I found was $450, cheaped sxs was $400, and cheapest pump was $180
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Were you looking at used guns or new ones? You must have some turboshit pawnshops in your area if they don't have ancient SxS' for cheap.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;48030952]Were you looking at used guns or new ones? You must have some turboshit pawnshops in your area if they don't have ancient SxS' for cheap.[/QUOTE]
actually the $450 was for a good condition nice one in the gun store. The cheapest one in the dumpiest pawn shop was $600, and it was beat up pertty good.
A brand-new Brazilian Stoeger O/U goes for $550, why the hell would anyone pay $600 for a beat-to-shit one unless it was made by some fancy company?
Puerto Rico is going to have open carry soon. You don't even need a CCW.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;48030888]Double barreled shotguns (and rifles, but we won't even get into that) are extremely expensive, especially quality ones. I hope you weren't under the impression they would be cheap. $400 is on the extreme low side of things, and I can guarantee that gun would have been poorly regulated garbage.
Expect to pay at least $1500 for anything to write home about.
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Get a pump gun if you want a cheap working gun.[/QUOTE]
I think he is looking at antiques. Antique doubles tend to be fairly cheap in my experience.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;48030795]I went to a gun shop and a few pawn shops today, the cheapest o/u I found was $450, cheaped sxs was $400, and cheapest pump was $180
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So, I guess what I didn't mention is that the cheap beater side-by-sides, at least in my experience, tend to be fairly rare in gun stores, because most of the stock that gun shops tend to hang on to as far as SxS and O/U shotguns are concerned are the good fowling pieces that do tend to run $400+. If you want a beater double barrel, I'd suggest other pawn shops, gun shows, or online.
Again, though, with the old guns you have to be sure it's going to be safe to shoot. A lot of pre-1900s guns have Damascus steel (pattern welded) barrels and are not safe with smokeless powder, and a lot of older guns have 2.5" chambers that are not safe with 2.75" shells. If you find a cheap SxS with proper steel barrels and 2.75" chambers then you're golden.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48032827]I think he is looking at antiques. Antique doubles tend to be fairly cheap in my experience.[/QUOTE]
Shit I would be if I could find any
[QUOTE=cqbcat;48030694]Recommandations for a combat ready, free float quad rail?
I figure I have a plain jane AR-15, so I want the other one to be tactical.[/QUOTE]
Daniel Defense for a drop in. LaRue for a one piece (will require removing the front sight block).
Went shooting with some friends today. We got a little too close to the Mini 14 muzzle a couple of times, and could really feel the blast. We felt obligated to test the power of the blast a little further. We used two paper cups stacked together, and they were obliterated :O
[video=youtube;EtHPl1bFveo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHPl1bFveo[/video]
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48032724]A brand-new Brazilian Stoeger O/U goes for $550, why the hell would anyone pay $600 for a beat-to-shit one unless it was made by some fancy company?[/QUOTE]
Because in America, if it's not European (kinda, Norway and Poland don't count as civilization to us for whatever dumb reason) or American, we don't want it. The only real exceptions to that would be Israel, which may as well be Europe.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;48037480]Because in America, if it's not European (kinda, Norway and Poland don't count as civilization to us for whatever dumb reason) or American, we don't want it. The only real exceptions to that would be Israel, which may as well be Europe.[/QUOTE]
if a gun is made by brown people or italians, i dont want it.
So what's the general opinion of the Ruger SR556(the piston one)? And if I can get one for $1600 is it worth it
[QUOTE=capgun;48037557]So what's the general opinion of the Ruger SR556(the piston one)? And if I can get one for $1600 is it worth it[/QUOTE]
buy a sig 516 instead.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;48037514]if a gun is made by brown people or italians, i dont want it.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I forgot the Italians. I only like their food and some of their cars anyways.
The shop I work at is in an Italian area, so we get a shitload of "Italian" kids in looking at and fawning over every fucking Italian gun we have, then talking about their Nono's Beretta from 1956, and how fucking mint it is and whatever. Makes me want a Browning even more, and hell, the Berettas and Benellis aren't even all that great compared to an SX3.
[QUOTE=capgun;48037557]So what's the general opinion of the Ruger SR556(the piston one)? And if I can get one for $1600 is it worth it[/QUOTE]
Overpriced and not that great of a value. You're better off with an entry level AR15 like the Ruger AR556 or a S&W M&P Sport. If you are looking at piston guns, look at AKs (for price/value), Sigs(if you must burn money), or the dreaded Keltec line(for hate from the forum).
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im ready for another baltimore
Has anyone tried out the XDs 4.0? I'm looking to pick one up for carry. If I can get it for just over $500, I think it would be a good value for a carry piece.
There's a place that I could get the Skorpion in .380 for just a little over $700 after taxes. Seriously debating it.
[QUOTE=capgun;48037557]So what's the general opinion of the Ruger SR556(the piston one)? And if I can get one for $1600 is it worth it[/QUOTE]
honestly dont see the point in getting a gas piston ar-15 unless you plan on running it hard in adverse weather conditions and putting thousands of rounds through it quarterly
barrel length isnt even short enough to where the weight is balanced because a 16 inch gas piston rifle can get heavy without optics and if you slap an ACOG on.. it basically just became an m16a4 in weight which is retarded. For reference the last gas piston ARs i handled were LWRCI M6A2s and IC variants
[QUOTE=capgun;48037557]So what's the general opinion of the Ruger SR556(the piston one)? And if I can get one for $1600 is it worth it[/QUOTE]
Piston ARs are a waste of money unless you're expecting to drop 20K rounds of ammo through it between cleanings. DI guns are fine, they just get dirty quicker.
Piston setups only make a real difference if you're firing full auto and you'd like to keep as much heat out of the action as possible.
Stick with a midrange DI AR and you can spend the money you saved on a good scope or some good furniture for it.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;48045698]Has anyone tried out the XDs 4.0? I'm looking to pick one up for carry. If I can get it for just over $500, I think it would be a good value for a carry piece.[/QUOTE]
Striker fire made in Croatia with a grip safety. Thats a big ol negative ghost rider.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;48045698]Has anyone tried out the XDs 4.0? I'm looking to pick one up for carry. If I can get it for just over $500, I think it would be a good value for a carry piece.[/QUOTE]
My grandpa has one. It's ok, but I much prefer the normal XD. The XDs is too slim for my giant hands.
Why is striker fire seen as being a bad thing for conceal carry?
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