Hold down so you can slice them in the back and keep pushing down. Mmm.
longer slashes if holding up
stronger stabs if holding down
am i right?
You can get the best of both if you hold the knife with the blade down from your hand but having your arm horizontal. Drawing back isn't impeded by gravity.
What people don't understand is that, your fist is still a weapon in a knife fight. If you flip the blade so the edge is facing downwards, you're able to punch with a fist filler, slash more effectively, stab more powerfully, etc. You get none of this with upright blade, you lose more actually due to the fact the only thing you can do is extend rapidly to hurt them, and that will leave you far more open compared to the opposite.
Down looks more badass.
ITT people who think you slash with a knife. No (good) military train to slash with knifes, unless you aim for the legs, you want a swift stab to the chest area. Even then if you're in a situation where it comes to you using a knife you're an idiot because you should have attached it to your rifle ages ago.
And FYI blade down is a better stance.
Down, sure it gives you more power.
Plus you'll look more badass :smug:
[QUOTE=Ohforf;20397346]I'd imagine holding it down, because slashing does next to nothing if the opponent is wearing thick clothing. Holding it up and stabbing can cause injuries to your wrist, if you're not experienced and/or if your opponent is experienced in fighting bladed opponents. Stabbing is the way to go, and when you're holding it blade down it's harder for your opponent to succesfully disarm you.[/QUOTE]
Blade down is just as easy to disarm, and stabbing blade up won't damage your wrist.
But this shit don't matter anyway, because in a military situation you'd be dead if you tried knifing someone, and in a defence situation you'd be put in jail :V
You're supposed to hold it tip down when you get into a fist fight sort of thing. I actually can't thing of a good reason to hold it tip up unless you were going to shank someone in the stomach. I wouldn't even hold my switchblade tip up.
[QUOTE=Clever-Balls;20397269]ITT people who think you slash with a knife. No (good) military train to slash with knifes, unless you aim for the legs, you want a swift stab to the chest area. Even then if you're in a situation where it comes to you using a knife you're an idiot because you should have attached it to your rifle ages ago.
And FYI blade down is a better stance.[/QUOTE]
Shoulders if you want to keep him alive, slashing up into the armpit pretty much makes it impossible for the person to do anything because of the pain if he moves it.
Depends on the move, really. If you're going for an uppercut, hold it up. If you're faling out of the sky directly above them, hold it down.
Holding it down would ensure a killing hit, but would have a slow recovery time if you miss.
Holding it up would ensure a faster and repeated attack, but less impact force.
If you hold it down and sideways it's guaranteed to be a killing blow.
If you however put too much force into a slash you're already dead :buddy:
Holding it up gives you better thrust and it's unlikelier you're gonna drop it.
In theory, it's held down for more force and speed. Being held up is just standard since melee weapons were invented.
If you think about it though, holding a knife up.. it would be easier for a target to push it into your own torso, whereas if you hold it down its away from you.
It is all a matter of what you are good with. I much prefer to use it down. That is just more suited to my fighting style.
[QUOTE=redonkulous;20397654]It is all a matter of what you are good with. I much prefer to use it down. That is just more suited to my fighting style.[/QUOTE]
Tell us about your many knife fights.
[QUOTE=BlazeFresh;20397635]If you think about it though, holding a knife up.. it would be easier for a target to push it into your own torso, whereas if you hold it down its away from you.[/QUOTE]
There is no way to hold the blade, so that it would be hard to get "counterstabbed" with your own knife.
We need Professional in here
[QUOTE=Cyrex;20397415]Shoulders if you want to keep him alive, slashing up into the armpit pretty much makes it impossible for the person to do anything because of the pain if he moves it.[/QUOTE]
Try aiming for the armpit in a combat sitation and you'll most likely end up dead, because the enemy will have his locked :V
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[QUOTE=BlazeFresh;20397635]If you think about it though, holding a knife up.. it would be easier for a target to push it into your own torso, whereas if you hold it down its away from you.[/QUOTE]
Lol no, blade down is FAR too easy to push back into you :v:
[QUOTE=Clever-Balls;20397376]in a military situation you'd be dead if you tried knifing someone[/QUOTE]
cause you know, nobody has ever gotten a knife kill in the military.
To quote my sources, Royal Marine CQC training and Eskrima (I also did a lot of bladed self defence with my Kickboxing/Thaiboxing teacher)
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[QUOTE=Fps_Deffy;20397913]cause you know, nobody has ever gotten a knife kill in the military.[/QUOTE]
It happens rarely, but surely. But what i'm saying is, if you run into a fight with a knife and the enemy has a bayonet you're fucked.
[QUOTE=Clever-Balls;20397855]Lol no, blade down is FAR too easy to push back into you :v:[/QUOTE]
not if you have your arm up across your chest. and if its a fist fight that happens to have a knife. then the person would have to reach up and behind your fist to get you to stab yourself. the only way i can see it happening is if you are holding it fps style about a foot away from your body, and even then if the person managed to get you with your own knife, you probably should have just run from the situation.
Fuck my tablet broke. anyway
Here's how I think it would look the coolest.
Hold the knife in your left hand, with the blade facing your feet, for safety.
When you stab make a sweeping motion, if you do this right, you could now turn the blade either way.
At the end of this sweep keep going with the knife, and go JUST past your right hand, at this point safely slide the knife into your right hand, with your right hand grab the knife so you're holding it UPSIDE DOWN. IE backstab style.
Then go in for the final stab. It sounds dumb, but in something like a video game your character would seem to have more skill than just swinging wildly.
[QUOTE=Fps_Deffy;20397957]not if you have your arm up across your chest. and if its a fist fight that happens to have a knife. then the person would have to reach up and behind your fist to get you to stab yourself. the only way i can see it happening is if you are holding it fps style about a foot away from your body, and even then if the person managed to get you with your own knife, you probably should have just run from the situation.[/QUOTE]
Lol no, you're thinking far too complex, it's a really simple technique. Grab the hand/wrist of the attacking oponent and push forward as hard as you can. His wrist will buckle and their elbow goes with it like a chain reaction, as soon as the wrist starts to buckle thrust your whole body using your legs into the person shoulder first.
[QUOTE=BlazeFresh;20397732]Tell us about your many knife fights.[/QUOTE]
Never real knife fighting, just sparring kind of stuff using fake knives. First person to get stabbed a few times with it loses. I do much better with a down knife.
[QUOTE=Clever-Balls;20397855]Try aiming for the armpit in a combat sitation and you'll most likely end up dead, because the enemy will have his locked :V[/QUOTE]
I've done it before, punch him in the kidney then grab the arm with a weapon in it with your right hand(With your knife in the left of course), then you have a free shot at his armpit coming from below when you pull his hand to the side and towards you. then it should be easy to swing him around and do it to his other shoulder, or the back of his knees if you don't want him to run away.
This works in basic fights against opponents that haven't had advanced CQC training
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[QUOTE=Fps_Deffy;20397913]cause you know, nobody has ever gotten a knife kill in the military.[/QUOTE]
I heard of some crazy brit in ww2 rushing people with a sword, using the sheer surprise to kill them :v:
[QUOTE=Clever-Balls;20398002]Lol no, you're thinking far too complex, it's a really simple technique. Grab the hand/wrist of the attacking oponent and push forward as hard as you can. His wrist will buckle and their elbow goes with it like a chain reaction, as soon as the wrist starts to buckle thrust your whole body using your legs into the person shoulder first.[/QUOTE]
That is awesome, but i dont think it would work for me mostly because i dont have the strongest grip, and im not very big.
[QUOTE=Cyrex;20398025]I've done it before, punch him in the kidney then grab the arm with a weapon in it with your right hand(With your knife in the left of course), then you have a free shot at his armpit coming from below when you pull his hand to the side and towards you. then it should be easy to swing him around and do it to his other shoulder, or the back of his knees if you don't want him to run away.
This works in basic fights against opponents that haven't had advanced CQC training[/QUOTE]
lol, and [i]I'm[/i] thinking too complex.
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