• Prostitution
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[QUOTE=Kero_;32411844]I don't see it like this. If prostitution was legal, they would just go there, without completely checking if there is any other source.[/quote] Except no, that's not true at all. Would you eat at a restaurant if it didn't have a license and hadn't had a health inspection? [quote]If it is illiegal, so they would do anything to find a decent job, which isn't involved in selling your body out of no choice[/QUOTE] Horribly wishful thinking. What happens when they can't find another job despite all effort? In a world where prostitution is legal they'd take the job (reluctantly, of course, I'm not an idiot), but be protected by labour laws and regular free health check ups. When prostitution is illegal they still take the job (what are they going to do? Starve to death or have an illegal job?), but without all of those protections. Prostitution exists, has always existed, and will always exist. It is the world's oldest profession, and all attempts to stamp it out have been resolute failures. We may as well make conditions good.
Jazzy, I don't like prostitution, nor do I like prostitutes, but you have to admit, enforcing your morals on someone who doesn't agree, seems a bit wrong, doesn't it? I think it should be regulated and legalised, but I can't say I'll ever give them the time of day.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32411968]Jazzy, I don't like prostitution, nor do I like prostitutes, but you have to admit, enforcing your morals on someone who doesn't agree, seems a bit wrong, doesn't it? I think it should be regulated and legalised, but I can't say I'll ever give them the time of day.[/QUOTE] But what do you mean enforcing my morals? Am I not allowed to teach my children what is right or wrong?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32411916]I'm not forcing my morals onto anybody by doing that. Would you get together with someone who looks at sex as an object, something she/he's shared with an innumerable ammount of people an innumerable ammount of times?[/QUOTE] Yes I would, because having and enjoying sex is as natural as taking a piss. Sex is an activity between 2 people, just like any other activity.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32411916]I'm not forcing my morals onto anybody by doing that.[/quote] Except you are, by definition, imposing your morals on other people. When you say "you can't do that", you're making a choice in place of the people who are actually affected. Rights are innate, not granted. [quote]Would you get together with someone who looks at sex as an object, something she/he's shared with an innumerable ammount of people an innumerable ammount of times?[/QUOTE] Me personally? No. Someone else? Maybe. You don't get to make that assumption. Somebody, out there, might want that. Who are you to say they can't?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32411999]But what do you mean enforcing my morals? Am I not allowed to teach my children what is right or wrong?[/QUOTE] You can force your children to be abstinent as much as you want but we are not your children are we?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32411999]But what do you mean enforcing my morals? Am I not allowed to teach my children what is right or wrong?[/QUOTE] You can teach your children what you believe to be right or wrong. You can't systematically enforce your doctrine onto everybody else, because [b]not everybody shares your viewpoint.[/b] [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack Trades;32412019]Sex is an activity between 2 people[/QUOTE] Is it ...? :pervert:
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;32412019]Yes I would, because having and enjoying sex is as natural as taking a piss. Sex is an activity between 2 people, just like any other activity.[/QUOTE] Would you still let this person sell their body while you were with them?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32411999]But what do you mean enforcing my morals? Am I not allowed to teach my children what is right or wrong?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are. The government isn't our parents. They can but the fuck out. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32412062]You can teach your children what you believe to be right or wrong. You can't systematically enforce your doctrine onto everybody else, because [b]not everybody shares your viewpoint.[/b] [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] Is it ...? :pervert:[/QUOTE]Yep, systematic beliefs are what the Nazi's tried to do.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32412090]Would you still let this person sell their body while you were with them?[/QUOTE] It's their right, I don't get to make that decision for them. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;32412092]Yep, systematic beliefs are what the Nazi's tried to do.[/QUOTE] Good old Godwin. And the Nazis weren't the first to do it and they sure as shit weren't the last.
It would be alright as long as the prostitutes/clients aren't carrying diseases, that or the clients are forced to use protection.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32412090]Would you still let this person sell their body while you were with them?[/QUOTE] If prostitution was legal, he/she took necessary precautions and most importantly it was his/her own choice, definitely yes. I think that deciding what someone else can or cannot do is awful, especially if it doesn't break any laws.
Hmm, what are the pros with prostitution then, set aside it gives jobs?
[QUOTE=JustGman;32412160]It would be alright as long as the prostitutes/clients aren't carrying diseases, that or the clients are forced to use protection.[/QUOTE] It would most certainly be regulated and condoms would be mandatory.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32412170]Hmm, what are the pros with prostitution then, set aside it gives jobs?[/QUOTE]Sex feels good, that's one pro.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32412170]Hmm, what are the pros with prostitution then, set aside it gives jobs?[/QUOTE] It's job, just like any other. You might even call it a part of entertainment industry...sort of.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;32412165]If prostitution was legal, he/she took necessary precautions and most importantly it was his/her own choice, definitely yes. I think that deciding what someone else can or cannot do is awful, especially if it doesn't break any laws.[/QUOTE]So if you were married with kids, you'd let your wife be a prostitute?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32412170]Hmm, what are the pros with prostitution then, set aside it gives jobs?[/QUOTE] Assuming its legal and regulated, it curbs one of the vectors for STDs, it prevents getting them dependent on drugs, and overall provides a better standard for the consumer. It's the difference between moonshine and legal alcohol
Prostitution is already everywhere, except that now it's unregulated and illegal, which makes it dangerous. If it to be legalized girls/guys would be able to work in a clean and safe environment.
[QUOTE=faze;32412218]So if you were married with kids, you'd let your wife be a prostitute?[/QUOTE] What? Either you completely misunderstood or you're trying to be deliberately misleading.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32412242]What? Either you completely misunderstood or you're trying to be deliberately misleading.[/QUOTE]I interpreted "someone you were with" as a significant other.
[QUOTE=faze;32412218]So if you were married with kids, you'd let your wife be a prostitute?[/QUOTE] As I said, if it was her conscious choice then yes. Maybe she feels like it's her "thing" and working as a prostitute is her dream job?
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;32412279]As I said, if it was her conscious choice then yes. Maybe she feels like it's her "thing" and working as a prostitute is her dream job?[/QUOTE]But, she's cheating on you technically.
[QUOTE=faze;32412288]But, she's cheating on you technically.[/QUOTE] In my point of view, cheating is when a person loves someone while pretending to love and/or be in a closed relationship with someone else. Sex != Love Edit: What I mean if that if she were dating someone then it would be cheating but in this case it's just sex, with different people even.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;32412347]In my point of view, cheating is when a person loves someone while pretending to love and/or be in a closed relationship with someone else. Sex != Love[/QUOTE]So if your wife had a friend who was a guy she would be free to fuck him to her heart's content?
[QUOTE=faze;32412288]But, she's cheating on you technically.[/QUOTE] Well yeah I'd be pretty pissed if I found out my wife or whatever was a prostitute on the side, but it's a private matter. I don't see what that has to do with legalising prostitution; it could happen regardless of the legality.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32412362]Well yeah I'd be pretty pissed if I found out my wife or whatever was a prostitute on the side, but it's a private matter. I don't see what that has to do with legalising prostitution; it could happen regardless of the legality.[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree, I was replying to his view on cheating.
[QUOTE=faze;32412357]So if your wife had a friend who was a guy she would be free to fuck him to her heart's content?[/QUOTE] Again it's a private matter. The government or society doesn't get to say "no you can't do that" if that's what you're implying. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;32412379]Yeah I agree, I was replying to his view on cheating.[/QUOTE] oh ok, misinterpreted
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32412385]Again it's a private matter. The government or society doesn't get to say "no you can't do that" if that's what you're implying. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] oh ok, misinterpreted[/QUOTE]Not implying that at all. Prostitution should be legal, but he said he would allow his wife to have sex with others.
[QUOTE=Kero_;32411647]I find it immoral to sleep with someone for money while she only does it to keep on living.[/QUOTE] that's the point...it doesn't matter whether you find it immoral or not everything that doesn't somehow infringe on another person's rights should be legal (prostitution, drugs, etc.) if you find something immoral...then don't do it - but stop trying to tell others not to do it because they might be completely fine with it for example, i don't like drugs. just not my thing. but i'm not gonna go out there and try to ban drugs - some people like drugs, understand the consequences, and therefore should be legally allowed to use them. replaces "drugs" with "prostitution" and the same idea applies.
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