• Prostitution
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It should be legal in certain districts of a city like Amsterdam. I mean, if you need to get layed that bad, make it available for them.
[QUOTE=Billiam;32418572]Sheesh, and you're criticizing other people on their debating skills? You're making this assumption from that piece of evidence, "The US is in Debt" does not justify that statement; it's a false assertion. If the US Social Conservatives were willing to sacrifice their ideals for cash then why isn't prostitution legal right now? Why is the war on drugs still occurring? [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] Reading further back, pretty much all of your claims are like that; you're basically doing this: [video=youtube;-sZb_IjTmyU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZb_IjTmyU[/video][/QUOTE] I'm saying that if it we're legalized, the government would want to tax the hell out of it. As they do with cigarettes and beer. Also, the point is truly moot, as I do believe it should be legal, just not taxed. Furthermore, my points are not all like that, you just wanted a nice place to put that video in one of these forums.
Penn and teller's Bullshit episode on prostitution brings up some interesting ideas. They interviewed prostitutes and a whore house. [B]Part 1[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRxI4BLqE4&noredirect=1[/media] [B]Part 2[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJxg7iBJzg&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=Billiam;32418572]Sheesh, and you're criticizing other people on their debating skills?[/QUOTE] To be fair, the Vatican example was irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;32420456] Also, the point is truly moot, as I do believe it should be legal, just not taxed.[/QUOTE] Prostitution should be taxed like any other job. It's a service, not a product. & it still falls into supply & demand. Even if the government did push for more prostitutes (which I doubt) it wouldn't matter if the demand is already being met.
[QUOTE=Billiam;32418572] [video=youtube;-sZb_IjTmyU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZb_IjTmyU[/video][/QUOTE] I REALLY hope the uploader didn't ACTUALLY think Sagan was high while doing that.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32421060]I REALLY hope the uploader didn't ACTUALLY think Sagan was high while doing that.[/QUOTE] It's no secret that Sagan loved the ganja.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32421171]It's no secret that Sagan loved the ganja.[/QUOTE] Of course, I'm just saying in this video in particular, he most likely wasn't.
Seeing as we can't afford our country today (Speaking from an American's point of view), I think it should be kept illegal. Think about it. More sex = more accidents. More accidents = more unwanted pregnancies. Which equals money, money and more money. I'm saying this as if there was an outbreak in legal prostitution. Technically there's nothing wrong with it if it's consentual and the participants want to do it, but then again things [I]do[/I] happen.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;32430894]Seeing as we can't afford our country today (Speaking from an American's point of view), I think it should be kept illegal. Think about it. More sex = more accidents. More accidents = more unwanted pregnancies.[/QUOTE] That's completely illogical. By keeping it illegal it gets forced underground, and becomes even more unsafe and violent. Just because you make something illegal doesn't mean it goes away, you can just look at marijuana now or alcohol in the 20s for evidence of that.
the only real reason prostitution is illegal is because it can't be taxed.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32431153]the only real reason prostitution is illegal is because it can't be taxed.[/QUOTE] Why...not?
It should be legal. It causes more harm when it's illegal. If it's legal then you can enforce stuff better. Have proper management, make sure the prostitutes are taken care of. Less STDs, less violence. And the fact is... We should be allowed to decide over our own bodies. We are not truly free if we cannot decide 100% over our own bodies.
[QUOTE=Nick Lomax;32431726]It should be legal. It causes more harm when it's illegal. If it's legal then you can enforce stuff better. Have proper management, make sure the prostitutes are taken care of. Less STDs, less violence. And the fact is... We should be allowed to decide over our own bodies. We are not truly free if we cannot decide 100% over our own bodies.[/QUOTE] That Penn & Teller video showcased a legal brothel in Nevada, and I must say it was very clean.
Street prostitution should remain illegal but I have no problem with regulated brothels or prostitutes who operate online and work from home aslong as there are medical checks and appropriate precautions taken.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;32430894]Seeing as we can't afford our country today (Speaking from an American's point of view), I think it should be kept illegal. Think about it. More sex = more accidents. More accidents = more unwanted pregnancies. Which equals money, money and more money. I'm saying this as if there was an outbreak in legal prostitution. Technically there's nothing wrong with it if it's consentual and the participants want to do it, but then again things [I]do[/I] happen.[/QUOTE] If it's made legal and regulated, contraceptives would be mandatory.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;32432021]Street prostitution should remain illegal but I have no problem with regulated brothels or prostitutes who operate online and work from home aslong as there are medical checks and appropriate precautions taken.[/QUOTE] Pretty much, if it's kept as business instead of some "sell your vagina on a dark corner of a street" you can keep it clean, regulated and even taxed, the whorehouse on the "Bullshit" episode posted above is an example of this.
It isn't prostitution if your filming it, which is a pretty stupid law. It should just be legalized, but stigmatized.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;32447749]It should just be legalized, but [B]stigmatized[/B].[/QUOTE] Why? Your definition of a real job is completely meaningless, and this notion that certain professions are disgraceful is rooted in a false sense of pride. If it is not a business you'd want to get involved in, don't. There is no reason to force your opinion of a particular job onto the public.
Doesn't Canada have legalized prostitution to some degree? Does anyone feel that is wrong there?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32431409]Why...not?[/QUOTE] Because you can't really tax sex.
I think it should be legalized. It's not hurting anybody besides whiners who think they should affect what other people are allowed to do based on their, and not the actual people in the transaction's, morals. [b]Don't want a prostitute? Don't have one.[/b]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32448504]Because you can't really tax sex.[/QUOTE] Isn't there some sort of project in Germany going on that involves putting up these "check-in" stations in the city, like parking ticket machines for prostitutes, that helps them register their "work" and have their taxes automatically applied based on their earnings? I think prostitutes in particular would be willing to accept taxes if it meant their profession would achieve legal status, because if they don't pay their taxes they're suddenly back in the "illegal zone" with all the problems that implies.
I want the government to tax it just so they are technically pimping.
Im okay with this as long as there are safe for both sides
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;32420456]I'm saying that if it we're legalized, the government would want to tax the hell out of it. As they do with cigarettes and beer. How does that lead to the conclusion: [QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;32414777]It would end up with the government wanting more money, so they eventually would encourage women to become prostitues so that they can make money.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;32420456]Also, the point is truly moot, as I do believe it should be legal, just not taxed.[/QUOTE] For what reason? Everyone else is subject to taxation. [QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;32420456]Furthermore, my points are not all like that, you just wanted a nice place to put that video in one of these forums.[/QUOTE] Yes you are, you're doing a magical thing called [B]speculating.[/B]
Require all prostitutes to be licensed and to report for drug and STI check-ups every few months, and all customers must have a valid ID showing that they are of the age of consent (or just a legal adult). There's now no health or legal issue with prostitution, leaving only moral problems, which isn't something the government should be regulating. You don't like the idea of prostitution? Don't buy their services. Bam. It's as simple as that. [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] Requiring licensing would also be an effective way of taxing prostitution.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32448504]Because you can't really tax sex.[/QUOTE] Why not? If there's money made, you can tax it. Simple as that. "So i heard you earn money, here's the bill for that."
Its pretty ridiculous how its illegal in some countries, people should be able to do what they want with their own bodies.
I've read that prostitution causes bad mental and dangerous physical side effects, so I'm against it.
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