[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;35310616]I read both the book and saw the movie, and I find them way too cliched in the romantic department to have any significant meaning.
The movie was beautiful and the storytelling wasn't bad in the book, but the last half was "Oh I'll fall in love instead of pay attention to this life-or-death scenario" [sp]even if it is supposedly an act which is revealed not to be true by the third book[/sp]
People who are in danger, tend to grow close with the other person that is in the same boat they are in.
I had the same problem with Twilight, taking a somewhat "realistic" approach to something and then driving it into the ground with over-emphasis on romance instead of a good story.[/QUOTE]
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I can't even think of trying to do that without hurting myself
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;35330430]Why are you so hung up on this one small detail with minimal relevance to the plot[/QUOTE]
As someone else said, food issues are very relevant to this entire story. Not only that, but the scene I mention is early in the movie, which means it goes a long way towards setting the tone for the movie. If they were trying to set the tone of starvation level poverty and desperation for the people in that district then they botched it by having those two laugh off the fact that she just lost a chance to bag a deer.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35330039]Shoot some squirrels and skin them, shoot the deer, wrap the deer meat in squirrel pelts, walk into town with your 'squirrels' for trade- done![/QUOTE]
Except you're not supposed to bring in Squirrels either, and stripping an animal for meat and getting the pelt off in-tact takes awhile. She may not even know how to do it. In the books she always just shot the animal and brought it in for trade for other things. That's a lot of trouble to go through just so that you can have a little extra meat and run the risk of being caught and punished for it.
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[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35331939]As someone else said, food issues are very relevant to this entire story. Not only that, but the scene I mention is early in the movie, which means it goes a long way towards setting the tone for the movie. If they were trying to set the tone of starvation level poverty and desperation for the people in that district then they botched it by having those two laugh off the fact that she just lost a chance to bag a deer.[/QUOTE]
In any other situation it would have been a big deal, but she needed to bring in a lot of small stuff to town. It wasn't a good day for hunting in general, hence why they were just kind of chilling out and making jokes.
[QUOTE=superdeluxe;35330156]It was said in the movie that that was the first deer she had seen in a year.
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Nice thighs.
All I wanted was to get a copy of Mockingjay to read, and I could easily read it in a day, but nope...
Now I'm stuck here, with this cliffhanger, dying for more.
Just came back from it, I would have enjoyed it a lot if it wasn't for that camera, I've never actually received a headache from a movie until now. The slower parts were fine, but when almost any sort of action happened, the camera work just goes out of control. I've seen [I]bad[/I] POV movies that are more stable than this. I get that it hides violence, but when people are running? Or a fist fight? Seriously?
[QUOTE=Zeos;35339922]Just came back from it, I would have enjoyed it a lot if it wasn't for that camera, I've never actually received a headache from a movie until now. The slower parts were fine, but when almost any sort of action happened, the camera work just goes out of control. I've seen [I]bad[/I] POV movies that are more stable than this. I get that it hides violence, but when people are running? Or a fist fight? Seriously?[/QUOTE]
It's an attempt to convey the frantic and confused feelings that the characters have. They don't quite know what's going on or what's happened until everything has settled. It's a gamble in immersion.
Yeah, but it doesn't work, it's really, really hard to watch in a few scenes, I hope the director doesn't make the same decision for the sequels. I'm serious though, if [I]I'm[/I] having problems with the camera, it's really bad, I've been annoyed by it before, but this was actually visually irritating.
[QUOTE=Zeos;35339981]Yeah, but it doesn't work, it's really, really hard to watch in a few scenes, I hope the director doesn't make the same decision for the sequels. I'm serious though, if [I]I'm[/I] having problems with the camera, it's really bad, I've been annoyed by it before, but this was actually visually irritating.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mind it very much. The camera style was similar to Batman Begins, or POV films. It seems like it's a pretty even split between people who hated it and people who didn't mind it. We'll see what happens with the sequels, though.
The shakycam might make sense during the games, especially the beginning of the games, but:
At the start of the movie, when she's walking around her own town, what the hell is the point of the shakycam then? She's in her element, a place she's lived in her whole life, doing the thing she's good at(going out to hunt). Why the disorienting shakycam there?
I felt it worked kind of during the first fight scene because it conveyed a sense of blind panic as they're all running to get weapons, though it was still far too much. The rest of the movie really suffered because of it I thought, I couldn't follow what was happening during any of the action scenes. A shame because aside from that I quite liked the direction, especially the [sp]hallucination[/sp] sequence.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35343093]The shakycam might make sense during the games, especially the beginning of the games, but:
At the start of the movie, when she's walking around her own town, what the hell is the point of the shakycam then? She's in her element, a place she's lived in her whole life, doing the thing she's good at(going out to hunt). Why the disorienting shakycam there?[/QUOTE]
Adrenaline.
[QUOTE=Drasnus;35343204]I felt it worked kind of during the first fight scene because it conveyed a sense of blind panic as they're all running to get weapons, though it was still far too much. The rest of the movie really suffered because of it I thought, I couldn't follow what was happening during any of the action scenes. A shame because aside from that I quite liked the direction, especially the [sp]hallucination[/sp] sequence.[/QUOTE]
I think you're kind of missing the point of the movie if you're complaining about not being able to see the action. I mean, it's a PG-13 Thriller, it's not going to be a Zack Snyder movie. If you want to know about the action that badly you could just read the book.
That would make sense, if it wasn't inconsistent. They don't show a [sp]Girl's head being crushed in, even though right near the beginning, you clearly see a kid bash in another kid's head in with a brick. Or that in clear view, you see someone's neck get snapped, or Rue with a spear going right through her chest. It is PG-13, yes, but that doesn't excuse the final fight being the exact same way, which was essentially an elaborate fist fight.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;35331372]I can't even think of trying to do that without hurting myself[/QUOTE]
They teach that in Aikido courses, too bad i'm too fat to pull it off.
About the movie, i hope there will be a trilogy because i never had time to finish the third book.
[QUOTE=Lefter;35353979]They teach that in Aikido courses, too bad i'm too fat to pull it off.
About the movie, i hope there will be a trilogy because i never had time to finish the third book.[/QUOTE]
Woody Harrelson said all of them were signed for four movies, so they'll probably do the second book, and then two movies for the third book, Harry Potter style.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35353991]and then [B]two movies for the third book[/B], Harry Potter style.[/QUOTE]
Fuck you Lionsgate. Fuck you.
I really thought the movie was done sloppy. The beginning part untill they started the actual Hunger Games were done pretty well. But after that the whole movie went downhill for me..
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35346473]I think you're kind of missing the point of the movie if you're complaining about not being able to see the action. I mean, it's a PG-13 Thriller, it's not going to be a Zack Snyder movie. If you want to know about the action that badly you could just read the book.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean gore, I mean I literally couldn't tell who people are or where they were in a fight. They may as well have just had a black screen with sound effects. And if it was described in the book, how is expecting to see it in the film "missing the point"? It's possible to film a fight scene tastefully and still let the audience know what's going on.
As for the PG13 thing, that's even more confusing. I fail to see why a film about teenagers killing eachother for sport is "okay" as long as they shake the camera wildly and don't show the realistic outcome of sword vs human body.
[QUOTE=barttool;35310759]I really don't get what you're all going about with the romance thing, 70% of the movie was something else than romance, and while they don't make it so explicit in the movie, in the books Katniss is faking it all from beginning to end. IMO romance had a bigger role in the books than in the movie.[/QUOTE]
I guess I should've clarified that, I didn't mean the first book, I meant the series as a whole. I worded that first sentence badly. I enjoyed the first book a decent amount, and the movie was pretty well made aside from all the bad camera movement. What I meant was the plot of the first book basically gets sold out in the proceeding two in that [sp]she ends up with Peeta anyway[/sp]. I really think that the series would've been better off with just the first book.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;35311126]wow are you serious? you just spoiled the book for me
if you're gonna give a book spoiler, don't do it right after you talk about the movie[/quote]
Maybe you shouldn't click spoilers of something you don't know a good amount about? Seriously, I tagged them for a reason. If you're going to complain about spoiling something, have the common sense not to click the tags.
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Maybe you shouldn't click spoilers of something you don't know a good amount about? Seriously, I tagged them for a reason. If you're going to complain about spoiling something, have the common sense not to click the tags.[/QUOTE]
"wow the movie was good and etc and the movie and etc and *insert BOOK spoiler here*"
I only clicked it because I thought it was about the movie, you barely gave any hints that you were gonna spoil the books
Saw this a few nights ago, enjoyed it thoroughly but the camera work... I get that it's a 12A, but that doesn't mean the camera had to be shaken that much in the fights.
Also, what the hell was up with the [sp]Werewolf things at the end? Can the Producers just build them at will and throw them out of piles of leaves? Because that's what it looked like.[/sp]
[QUOTE=cyclocius;35361589]Saw this a few nights ago, enjoyed it thoroughly but the camera work... I get that it's a 12A, but that doesn't mean the camera had to be shaken that much in the fights.
Also, what the hell was up with the [sp]Werewolf things at the end? Can the Producers just build them at will and throw them out of piles of leaves? Because that's what it looked like.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]In the book they're left super ambiguous, even more so than in the movie, but they had the eyes and hair color of the dead tributes, and Katniss theorizes that they're being shot up from the ground. They probably explain it in the other books or something, I don't know.[/sp]
[QUOTE=cyclocius;35361589]Saw this a few nights ago, enjoyed it thoroughly but the camera work... I get that it's a 12A, but that doesn't mean the camera had to be shaken that much in the fights.
Also, what the hell was up with the [sp]Werewolf things at the end? Can the Producers just build them at will and throw them out of piles of leaves? Because that's what it looked like.[/sp][/QUOTE]
The way I interpreted it as is [sp]as if it were Garry's Mod and you were spawning an NPC.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35362033][sp]In the book they're left super ambiguous, even more so than in the movie, but they had the eyes and hair color of the dead tributes, and Katniss theorizes that they're being shot up from the ground. They probably explain it in the other books or something, I don't know.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] The Tributes from the game she's currently in, or last years games? It'd be interesting, but the Producer seemed to only just have approved them when they were bought up.[/sp]
[QUOTE=cyclocius;35363151][sp] The Tributes from the game she's currently in, or last years games? It'd be interesting, but the Producer seemed to only just have approved them when they were bought up.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The one she's currently in. She recognizes Rue and Thresh in the book, I believe. Or, at least, their eyes and hair. I think the producers were just approving them as in 'oh hey what if we threw these horrible monsters into the games', rather than approving the general creation of them.[/sp]
and again, that sounds awesome, such a shame that they didn't include it in the movie.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;35358997]"wow the movie was good and etc and the movie and etc and *insert BOOK spoiler here*"
I only clicked it because I thought it was about the movie, you barely gave any hints that you were gonna spoil the books[/QUOTE]
[quote=I]and the storytelling wasn't bad in the [b]book[/b], but the last half was "Oh I'll fall in love instead of pay attention to this life-or-death scenario" [sp]even if it is supposedly an act which is revealed not to be true by the third book[/sp][/quote]
I'm sorry that you can't read.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35363187][sp]The one she's currently in. She recognizes Rue and Thresh in the book, I believe. Or, at least, their eyes and hair. I think the producers were just approving them as in 'oh hey what if we threw these horrible monsters into the games', rather than approving the general creation of them.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]in the books they're mutts created by the capitol to fight rebels fighting in the mountains that surround the capitol (the capitol is located in a valley), but they mutated them in the arena to have the dead tributes' eyes. Although in the books they never narrate the game's director aproving the creatures, so it's implied they had planned it from the beginning, and had time to generate the mutts and put the eyes of the tributes in. Seeing as they have the technology to erase scars from the skin and completely heal deep burns, I see this as plausible in this universe[/sp]
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