tell my good friend who's a rising senior and working with nuclear physicists daily that's he's a dumb Christian.
[QUOTE=LeOctoalt;23410248]most generalization happens in the mind which is where it should stay unless you want to sound like a prick[/QUOTE]
Not really. When we say that humans have arms and legs, we're generalizing.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;23410290]The majority of voters seem to think otherwise.
:sigh:[/QUOTE]
I know. It has made me lose faith in the American voter.
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[QUOTE=DOG-GY;23410299]tell my good friend who's a rising senior and working with nuclear physicists daily that's he's a dumb Christian.[/QUOTE]
Just because you're a nuclear physicist doesn't mean you're the most educated when it comes to all subjects :downs:
[QUOTE=HenryJ;23410231]I don't know whether Obama is an atheist or not, but if he is and he's hiding it then he's a liar and that's something I would not want my president to be. You can rationalize it anyway you want, but he's still lying about something fundamental to his person. [B]Would be good if he came clean and told us that he was a non-believer if that is the case, it would be a huge step forward for the acceptance of atheists in the US and possibly the world.[/B] [/QUOTE]
Or it would get him nearly impeached and hated by a good 60-70% of the nation. You underestimate how distrusted atheists are. If you thought talk of him being a muslim was inflammatory, just wait till he mentions being an atheist.
there are 2.2 [hihglight]billion[/highlight] christians. it is the most followed religion on the planet. in second place is islam at 1.5 billion.
making generalizations about either is extremely dumb.
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23410300]Not really. When we say that humans have arms and legs, we're generalizing.[/QUOTE]
yes lets start the hypothetical bullshit.
[img]http://lifeloveandcs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/iq_vs_religion.png[/img]
Saying that he's too smart to be a Christian is as generalizing as saying that all humans have arms and legs.
there are 2.2 [highlight]billion[/highlight] christians. it is the most followed religion on the planet. in second place is islam at 1.5 billion.
making generalizations about either is extremely dumb.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;23410266]If Obama is an atheist or religious, it doesn't really matter because religion has no rightful place in politics.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;23410305]Just because you're a nuclear physicist doesn't mean you're the most educated when it comes to all subjects :downs:[/QUOTE]
By your logic everyone is mentally retarded
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23410342][img]http://lifeloveandcs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/iq_vs_religion.png[/img][/QUOTE]
That's ironic, Religiosity? What the fuck?
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23410342][IMG]http://lifeloveandcs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/iq_vs_religion.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I call bullshit on that, 70 is the border for mental retardation, there's no way there's multiple countries near or at that level
that chart is full of shit. more generalizing
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Also most of the world is below the mental retardation level according to you lol
so freedom fighter, youre saying only stupid people can have faith
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;23410357]By your logic everyone is mentally retarded[/QUOTE]
Uh, no. It just means that just because someone is smart, and educated at one thing, it doesn't mean they can throw their dick around in subjects they may not have researched about thoroughly or don't know anything about. You're assuming that your friend carefully chose his religious beliefs from an isolated stand-point rather than being raised into like most of the Christian community.
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23410350]there are 2.2 [hihglight]billion[/highlight] christians. it is the most followed religion on the planet. in second place is islam at 1.5 billion.
making generalizations about either is extremely dumb.[/QUOTE]
Generalizing that humans have arms and legs is dumb too.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;23410419]You're assuming that your friend carefully chose his religious beliefs from an isolated stand-point rather than being raised into like most of the Christian community.[/QUOTE]
Actually he did.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;23410389]that chart is full of shit. more generalizing
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Also most of the world is below the mental retardation level according to you lol[/QUOTE]
Uh, no. It's not according to me, it's the standard:
[QUOTE][B]IQ below 70[/B]
The first English-language [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient"]IQ[/URL] test, the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford-Binet"]Terman-Binet[/URL], was adapted from an instrument used to measure potential to achieve developed by Binet in France. Terman translated the test and employed it as a means to measure intellectual capacity based on oral [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language"]language[/URL], vocabulary, numerical reasoning, memory, motor speed and analysis skills. The mean score on the currently available IQ tests is 100, with a standard deviation of 15 (WAIS/WISC-IV) or 16 (Stanford-Binet). Sub-average intelligence is generally considered to be present when an individual scores two standard deviations below the test mean. Factors other than cognitive ability (depression, anxiety, etc.) can contribute to low IQ scores; it is important for the evaluator to rule them out prior to concluding that measured IQ is "significantly below average".
The following ranges, based on Standard Scores of intelligence tests, reflect the categories of the American Association of Mental Retardation, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-IV-TR, and the International Classification of Diseases-10:
Class IQ Profound mental retardation Below 20 Severe mental retardation 20–34 Moderate mental retardation 35–49 Mild mental retardation 50–69 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_intellectual_functioning"]Borderline intellectual functioning[/URL] 70–84[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=xxsetshotxx;23409926]bush did better with katrina then obama did with the oil spill, see news section.[/QUOTE]
what does that have to do with anything
are you suggesting that hurricanes and oil spills are the same thing from a logistic standpoint?
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;23410438]Actually he did.[/QUOTE]
Well then good for him. He isn't a dumb Christian then, he's merely a person who looked at the evidence and saw Christianity to have the most credible and reasonable evidence supporting it.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23410453]Uh, no. It's not according to me, it's the standard:[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking to you bro. I was referring to the chart and taking what I know from the worlds religious alignments.
Who gives a shit what religion he is anyway? As long as he does his job it doesn't make fuck all of a difference apart from to the simple minded slaves of anti-human religions. Mixing religion and politics isn't a very good idea.
The mere fact that he is politician immediately suggests that he will say whatever pleases the most people anyway.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;23410484]I wasn't talking to you bro. I was referring to the chart and taking what I know from the worlds religious alignments.[/QUOTE]
Oh, sorry, nvm then. But yea, chart is total bullshit.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23410499]Oh, sorry, nvm then. But yea, chart is total bullshit.[/QUOTE]
its ok
[QUOTE=LeOctoalt;23410407]so freedom fighter, youre saying only stupid people can have faith[/QUOTE]
No I'm not, but I'm saying that an average atheist is smarter than an average Christian. Obama being smart contributes to the fact that he's most likely an atheist.
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[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/LynnHarveyNyborg-CountryBelieveGod-Intelligence.svg[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence[/url]
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23410148]He obviously sounds like a non-Christian, and he's too smart to be a Christian.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23410221]An average Christian is dumber than an average atheist.[/QUOTE]
hahahahaha no
Atheists [I]believe [/I]they're smarter and more logical than Christians, but that's because the majority of us are angsty 15 year olds that already think we know everything about the world. The Atheist trend is one of Generation X and the Net Generation - people that have hardly even gotten out of fucking college or haven't even been in it. With age comes experience, those with experience are often far more intelligent.
In fact, most Christians are extremely logical outside of their Christian beliefs. They believe in a God. So what? Most blueblooded small-time businessmen are pretty devoutly Christian and holy shit I'm willing to bet they're smarter than you. I, as an Atheist, have worked with Christians in businesses. 90% of them are fucking business masterminds. Superb at accounting, working a market, and social networking with other businessmen to combine efforts.
Your religious belief has nothing to do with your intelligence. If you think it does, you're ridiculously pretentious and need to grow up significantly.
What the fuck is happening in here. Usually we see a shit storm [I]against[/I] religion.
Especially when it has to do with politics. It should stay like that, religion and politics doesn't belong together.
Also, I fully accept religion as a personal thing, and don't believe in a correlation between atheism and intelligence.
It's just politics, education and such it needs to stay out of. (not saying that you shouldn't be taught about religion, just that it shouldn't have an impact on classes like physics, biology etc.)
brickinhead makes great posts
you dont have to be stupid to believe in something stupid
and vice versa
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;23410544]hahahahaha no
Atheists [I]believe [/I]they're smarter and more logical than Christians, but that's because the majority of us are angsty 15 year olds that already think we know everything about the world. The Atheist trend is one of Generation X and the Net Generation - people that have hardly even gotten out of fucking college or haven't even been in it. With age comes experience, those with experience are often far more intelligent.
In fact, most Christians are extremely logical outside of their Christian beliefs. They believe in a God. So what? Most blueblooded small-time businessmen are pretty devoutly Christian and holy shit I'm willing to bet they're smarter than you. I, as an Atheist, have worked with Christians in businesses. 90% of them are fucking business masterminds. Superb at accounting, working a market, and social networking with other businessmen to combine efforts.
Your religious belief has nothing to do with your intelligence. If you think it does, you're ridiculously pretentious and need to grow up significantly.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[img]http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3500000/IQ-v-Religion-graph-atheism-3511654-510-289.gif[/img]
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