Drawing nude/semi-nude underage girls - is that also pedophilia?
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I think it doesn't decrease it, nor does it increase it. Paedos are paedos. If they are going to fuck a little girl, they probably won't settle for some two-dimensional 8-year-old with 32D's.
[QUOTE=TH89;18647662]I don't think he should be banned from doing it, but I wouldn't hang out with him.[/QUOTE]
Why not? That's the same concept as not hanging out with a guy because he is gay.
As long as he isn't an ass or retarded or whatever, then whatever.
Garry needs to defend his honour as a proud Lolicon Enthusiast
[QUOTE=chrissthebliss;18642884]This is slightly serious, cause me and my mate (who is a moderator of popular art website Deviant Art) had a heated discussion about this.
So this is basically the story: someone, who says he has a college degree (definitely older than 18), draws semi-naked underage anime/animu girls, and uploads his stuff to Deviant Art. Some of the stuff is really borderline, yet he manages to get 6 million views, and a strong community of followers. My mate was thinking of warning him, but he changed his mind.
Is that kind of stuff acceptable as art or is he some kind of sick f*ck that's going to be the next Garry Glitter?[/QUOTE]
It's sick fuck stuff, just like loli.
It's illegal in the United States. Just a heads up to you pedophiles.
[QUOTE=TH89;18647290]I do think it's foolish to say that people who draw/look at this kind of stuff are not pedophiles. I understand the desire to distinguish one's self from an actual child rapist, but that's not what "pedophile" [i]means[/i].[/QUOTE]
As long as we agree that pedophiles aren't inherently bad.
Deck him.
Do it faggot.
[QUOTE=dgg;18647702]Why not? That's the same concept as not hanging out with a guy because he is gay.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure there's a difference between being gay and publishing massive amounts of anime kiddie porn on the internet.
[QUOTE=dgg;18647650]But what if it is one of the reasons they actually notice that they are attracted to it and starts doing it earlier than they would if they did not see it? Thus increasing the amounts of rape they would do in their lifetime?
;)
It can go both ways after all. But of course, I mostly agree with you anyways. Just don't block out the other side completely.[/QUOTE]
Please don't use ";)" in a discussion about child rape.
It would be like if in a thread about bestiality I ended each of my posts with :q:
:q:
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;18647731]As long as we agree that pedophiles aren't inherently bad.[/QUOTE]
Being sexually attracted to children is inherently bad.
What about this do you not understand?
[QUOTE=TH89;18647762]I'm pretty sure there's a difference between being gay and publishing massive amounts of anime kiddie porn on the internet.[/QUOTE]
It's just anime drawings. 289238420983520367 lolicon drawings are made every day. You don't even know if he is paedophile or not, just a big chance of him being it.
Gay guys posting gay pictures on the net.
Lolicon lover posting lolicon pictures on the net.
Straight guys posting images of girls on the net.
Straight girls posting pictures of Robert Pattinson on the net.
[QUOTE=HookJ;18647707]Garry needs to defend his honour as a proud Lolicon Enthusiast[/QUOTE]
Or as someone who doesn't stereotype people because of their fetishes.
Last month the notorious paedophile Sydney Cook was blasted into space to spend the rest of his life aboard a one-man prison vessel posing no further threat to children on Earth. But it was revealed that an 8-year-old boy was also placed on board by mistake and is now trapped alone in space with the monster. A spokesman said[b] [i]"This is the one thing we didn't want to happen"[/i][/b]
[QUOTE=DrMortician;18647782]Being sexually attracted to children is inherently bad.
What about this do you not understand?[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's bad. Raping kids is bad. I don't think there's anything you could possibly be sexually attracted to that would be bad, unless you're sexually attracted to walls, or something, and being aroused all the time becomes a problem.
If nothing other than thoughts happen, I don't think it's bad.
Expression of thoughts is important, though, and necessary. Pedophiles need to find a constructive way to express their sexual desire without actually raping little kids or promoting the act.
EDIT: "OH GOD, LOOK AT THAT WALL. Latex based paint... Get that painting off of that wall! It's ruining it!"
[QUOTE=DrMortician;18647782]Being sexually attracted to children is inherently bad.
What about this do you not understand?[/QUOTE]
Some people are sexually attracted to children but understand it's wrong and do not have sex with children, what you're saying is like saying people with schizophrenia are inherently bad.
You can't police people's thoughts, they're the only privacy people really get.
[QUOTE=dgg;18647795]It's just anime drawings. 289238420983520367 lolicon drawings are made every day. You don't even know if he is paedophile or not, just a big chance of him being it.
Gay guys posting gay pictures on the net.
Lolicon lover posting lolicon pictures on the net.
Straight guys posting images of girls on the net.
Straight girls posting pictures of Robert Pattinson on the net.[/QUOTE]
If you find children sexually attractive, you're a pedophile.
If you find the same sex, sexually attractive, you're gay.
If you find the opposite sex, sexually attractive, you're straight.
It's... Not... That... Complicated.
[QUOTE=dgg;18647795]It's just anime drawings. 289238420983520367 lolicon drawings are made every day. You don't even know if he is paedophile or not, just a big chance of him being it.[/QUOTE]
The term "reasonable doubt" springs to mind
I don't know for sure if the guy driving around in a police car and a police uniform is actually a cop either
[QUOTE=DrMortician;18647878]If you find children sexually attractive, you're a pedophile.
If you find the same sex, sexually attractive, you're gay.
If you find the opposite sex, sexually attractive, you're straight.
It's... Not... That... Complicated.[/QUOTE]
Uhh... Yes?
But drawings aren't real so you can't be sure.
Like I said. I'm attracted to girls with dicks if they are drawn but I puke at shemales.
Today, the number of children having sex with adults is beyond belief.
If you define a child as anyone under 30, the figure is over[b] 86 percent.[/b]
[img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/64c800brasseyechildren.png[/img]
[QUOTE=sonnysonny;18642988]It was, but George Bush made it legal. So it's completely legal now.[/QUOTE]
No, george bush tried to re-ban it. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but in any case it's not illegal now, that's true.
[QUOTE=jcallan;18647940]Today, the number of children having sex with adults is beyond belief.
If you define a child as anyone under 30, the figure is over[b] 86 percent.[/b]
[img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/64c800brasseyechildren.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Brass Eye should have never been cancelled.
[QUOTE=jcallan;18647940]Today, the number of children having sex with adults is beyond belief.
If you define a child as anyone under 30, the figure is over[b] 86 percent.[/b]
[img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/64c800brasseyechildren.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Children are people under 18.
[QUOTE=dgg;18647902]Uhh... Yes?
But drawings aren't real so you can't be sure.
Like I said. I'm attracted to girls with dicks if they are drawn but I puke at shemales.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty gross.
But you don't wanna know what I'm into. Be glad I don't talk about it.
[QUOTE=HookJ;18647854]Some people are sexually attracted to children but understand it's wrong and do not have sex with children, what you're saying is like saying people with schizophrenia are inherently bad.
You can't police people's thoughts, they're the only privacy people really get.[/QUOTE]
People with schizophrenia are inherently problematic. Why do you think being diagnosed with it automatically disqualifies you from buying a gun?
And yea, you can't police people's thoughts, but you can make sure you aren't promoting their bad behaviors.
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[QUOTE=dgg;18647902]Uhh... Yes?
But drawings aren't real so you can't be sure.
Like I said. I'm attracted to girls with dicks if they are drawn but I puke at shemales.[/QUOTE]
Yea, they aren't real so a baby in a diaper is obviously 18 years old.
[QUOTE=rosar098;18647965]Children are people under 18.[/QUOTE]
thatsthejoke.jpg much?
[QUOTE=DrMortician;18647979]Yea, they aren't real so a baby in a diaper is obviously 18 years old.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter as long as it is illustrations, really. Fantasy does not always relate to reality. There are things you like doing in your fantasy but couldn't imagine doing in real life.
Doesn't mean it isn't highly likely that it is connected, but it doesn't have to be.
[QUOTE=HookJ;18647964]Brass Eye should have never been cancelled.[/QUOTE]
Still relevant today it seems.
We need a link.
[QUOTE=dgg;18648041]Doesn't matter as long as it is illustrations, really. Fantasy does not always relate to reality. There are things you like doing in your fantasy but couldn't imagine doing in real life.
Doesn't mean it isn't highly likely that it is connected, but it doesn't have to be.[/QUOTE]
If a cartoon character is drawn with a female figure but is actually male. Finding it attractive doesn't make you gay.
If a character is drawn with a child's figure, but is actually 18+, if you find it attractive you're still a pedophile.
Do you not understand how this works? You're trying to complicate it to justify yourself or something. It's blindingly obvious to everyone else where the line is drawn.
You are a paedophile, you are a nonce, you're a perv, you're a slot badger, you're a two pin din plug, you're a bush dodger, you're a small bean regarder, you're an unabummer, you're a nut administrator, you're a bent ref, you're the crazy world of Arthur Brown, you're a fence foal, you're a free willy, you're a chimney bottler, you're a bunty man, you're a shrub rocketeer...
[QUOTE=DrMortician;18648083]If a cartoon character is drawn with a female figure but is actually male. Finding it attractive doesn't make you gay.
If a character is drawn with a child's figure, but is actually 18+, if you find it attractive you're still a pedophile.
Do you not understand how this works? You're trying to complicate it to justify yourself or something. It's blindingly obvious to everyone else where the line is drawn.[/QUOTE]
Why doesn't it make you gay to look at drawn dicks if it is paedophilia to look at drawn children?
You're the one bending it so it's convenient to your own belief.
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