Live in Washington State? Help Legalize Marijuana! - General

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29759998]That tripped me out, I live in mason county michigan O.o[/QUOTE] :respek: cross country mason counties represent lol

I'd do it if you didn't scream at me so much!!!!

[QUOTE=ewitwins;29752915]... I still fail to see why breathing anything else except for air into your lungs is a good idea in anybodies mindset. If it ain't air, it ain't good for you, and that's a fact. You irritate the Alveoli, and whenever you irritate tissue that sensitive, you risk cancer.[/QUOTE] Weed does not increase the risk of cancer in the slightest. If anything it reduces it. Ten seconds worth of google search would show this. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html[/url] [url]http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=large-study-finds-no-link[/url] [url]http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer[/url]

I'm all for legalizing Hemp, but I do not support Marijuana. If Hemp can make cheap paper and rope we damn well start mass producing that.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29774179]I'm all for legalizing Hemp, but I do not support Marijuana. If Hemp can make cheap paper and rope we damn well start mass producing that.[/QUOTE] Please tell me why you don't support a pastime that, unlike consuming alcohol and smoking tobacco (two perfectly legal substances), is not detrimental to society, does not produce any pressure on hospitals and is actually proven to be therapeutic to people with chronic pain, cancer and many others. Nevermind that it is the byproduct of a wondrous plant that was one of the most farmed plants about 200 years ago due to it's myriad uses.

[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;29776166]Please tell me why you don't support a pastime that, unlike consuming alcohol and smoking tobacco (two perfectly legal substances), is not detrimental to society, does not produce any pressure on hospitals and is actually proven to be therapeutic to people with chronic pain, cancer and many others. Nevermind that it is the byproduct of a wondrous plant that was one of the most farmed plants about 200 years ago due to it's myriad uses.[/QUOTE] I hate alcohol and tobacco as well, both are vile. I also prefer that more efficient artificial medicines be used rather than herbal remedies.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29776475]I hate alcohol and tobacco as well, both are vile. I also prefer that more efficient artificial medicines be used rather than herbal remedies.[/QUOTE] Why don't you do some research on Marinol and how much "better" it is?

Why would you want to legalize a drug anyway?

[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;29776717]Why don't you do some research on Marisol and how much "better" it is?[/QUOTE] It's Marinol. I don't agree with your argument Sobotnik. You are basically saying synthetic drugs are better for our bodies than than the natural drugs nature already provides us with. Now that may be true in certain circumstances, however, a drug is a drug. The structure of the molecule has all to do with how effective it is at treating a patients suffering. It's all how the body accepts the molecule. THC and many other cannabinoids within marijuana are a perfect fit to one of the largest system of brain receptors. Sure, take your painkillers that stimulate your Opioid brain receptors causing physical dependence. I think you should do some research before accepting falsified information from propaganda commercials. Also, Marijuana can be used just like Hemp for creation of Rope, so if it was legalized for recreational use, we would be able to take the mass produced Marijuana buds off their stems, and then use the stems for other purposes. It's really one of the best plants around. Shame it has been demonized because of rampant racism in the 1930s. [editline]12th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;29776796]Why would you want to legalize a drug anyway?[/QUOTE] Why wouldn't you. Do you know what the definition of a drug is? It's certainly not "A substance that turns ordinary human beings into mindless violent zombies" I eagerly await you guys' rebuttals.

Edited. Couldn't agree with all your points more.

[QUOTE=hegrec;29777109]It's Marinol. I don't agree with your argument Sobotnik. You are basically saying synthetic drugs are better for our bodies than than the natural drugs nature already provides us with. Now that may be true in certain circumstances, however, a drug is a drug. The structure of the molecule has all to do with how effective it is at treating a patients suffering. It's all how the body accepts the molecule. THC and many other cannabinoids within marijuana are a perfect fit to one of the largest system of brain receptors. Sure, take your painkillers that stimulate your Opioid brain receptors causing physical dependence. I think you should do some research before accepting falsified information from propaganda commercials. Also, Marijuana can be used just like Hemp for creation of Rope, so if it was legalized for recreational use, we would be able to take the mass produced Marijuana buds off their stems, and then use the stems for other purposes. It's really one of the best plants around. Shame it has been demonized because of rampant racism in the 1930s. [editline]12th May 2011[/editline] Why wouldn't you. Do you know what the definition of a drug is? It's certainly not "A substance that turns ordinary human beings into mindless violent zombies" I eagerly await you guys' rebuttals.[/QUOTE] Very well then. Let us legalize it and have it mass produced, if we are to replace the vile tobacco and alchohol.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29777554]Very well then. Let us legalize it and have it mass produced, if we are to replace the vile tobacco and alchohol.[/QUOTE] I am glad you saw through the veil. The last thing I would like to say to other doubters is simply this. Would you rather criminal cartels control the drug market through violence, or licensed companies with government ensured quality control. In a perfect world according to pro-prohibitionists, all the bad drugs would be eradicated from the planet. Unlike smallpox, recreational drugs hold value to many people on this world, and therefore will always exist. It's just time to face reality.

Hopefully this passes, but I'm skeptical. All the potheads won't vote, then all the batshit old people will vote it down just like in California.

[QUOTE=hegrec;29777687]I am glad you saw through the veil. The last thing I would like to say to other doubters is simply this. Would you rather criminal cartels control the drug market through violence, or licensed companies with government ensured quality control.[/QUOTE] Neither? I don't smoke but I've always been for the legalization, at least to grow and smoke for yourself, maybe not selling, and smoking should be treated as cigarettes - no smoking where it's banned already and such.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;29777721]Neither? I don't smoke but I've always been for the legalization, at least to grow and smoke for yourself, maybe not selling, and smoking should be treated as cigarettes - no smoking where it's banned already and such.[/QUOTE] Well of course you would be able to grow it yourself. Nobody ever cared about people who homebrew alcohol. It's when you try to sell your homebrew that the authorities get involved. And yes, I believe Marijuana shouldn't be allowed to be smoked freely on streets where potentially children may be walking by.

This isn't an online petition, it is a list of places where you can sign in Washington. If they do get enough signatures it'll pass but alot of stoners don't even vote.

Legalize it, put the same restrictions on it as cigarettes and don't let people drive while stoned.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29777554]if we are to replace the vile tobacco and alchohol.[/QUOTE] 40% trying too hard, 60% unsubtle trolling

[QUOTE=Esrange;29801915]Legalize it, put the same restrictions on it as cigarettes and don't let people drive while stoned.[/QUOTE] You already can't drive while stoned. It's not called drunk driving in any sort of crime. Driving Under the Influence. of anything. [editline]13th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;29759920]both hemp and marijuana are types of cannabis cannabis is a genus both marijuana and hemp are types of cannabis[/QUOTE] first read that as cannabis is a genius and i was like "yes, yes it is"

if this works valve is gonna take even longer to make ep 3

..because this country just totally NEEDS more pot smokers.

While I think that a lot of the reasoning behind the criminalisation of marijuana is bullshit (I'd much prefer it to be legal over tobacco) what I DO hate is people who blindly promote it and outright REFUSE to believe that there's even a remote possibility that it could be conceivably bad for you. I want to try it, however I'm not going to until more long term research has been put into it. My uncle on my mum's side tried marijuana and shortly afterwards apparently developed schizophrenia and checked himself into a psyche ward (at least he was still sane enough to realise the shit he was hearing wasn't normal). Until there comes a point in time that somebody with a fucking Ph.D in neuroscience or biochemistry or something like that can come along and tell me with 100% certainty that I'm not at risk of developing schizophrenia, and that, even if I was, marijuana will NOT cause it to be antagonised and finally manifest itself: I'm not doing marijuana.

I have my doubts about this initiative working, but I strongly believe that in 2012 Colorado or California will fully legalise, as people have seen how good the medical industry alone has been for the economy, and that the states haven't descended into anarchy.

[QUOTE=sltungle;29812005]While I think that a lot of the reasoning behind the criminalisation of marijuana is bullshit (I'd much prefer it to be legal over tobacco) what I DO hate is people who blindly promote it and outright REFUSE to believe that there's even a remote possibility that it could be conceivably bad for you. I want to try it, however I'm not going to until more long term research has been put into it. My uncle on my mum's side tried marijuana and shortly afterwards apparently developed schizophrenia and checked himself into a psyche ward (at least he was still sane enough to realise the shit he was hearing wasn't normal). Until there comes a point in time that somebody with a fucking Ph.D in neuroscience or biochemistry or something like that can come along and tell me with 100% certainty that I'm not at risk of developing schizophrenia, and that, even if I was, marijuana will NOT cause it to be antagonised and finally manifest itself: I'm not doing marijuana.[/QUOTE] I've tried it 3 times, I'm totally fine. ..Or at least thats what we WANT you to think :O

[QUOTE=chrishdman87;29812183]I've tried it 3 times, I'm totally fine. ..Or at least thats what we WANT you to think :O[/QUOTE] Or, you know, maybe that's because you're not pre-disposed towards it. That's one of the main worries with marijuana. That it might not necessarily CAUSE mental problems, but it may cause pre-existing, 'dormant' conditions to manifest themselves. If I am pre-disposed to schizophrenia I'd fucking rather it stayed dormant forever.

[QUOTE=sltungle;29812217]Or, you know, maybe that's because you're not pre-disposed towards it. That's one of the main worries with marijuana. That it might not necessarily CAUSE mental problems, but it may cause pre-existing, 'dormant' conditions to manifest themselves. If I am pre-disposed to schizophrenia I'd fucking rather it stayed dormant forever.[/QUOTE] Alcohol can cause that too.

This, people often seem to disregard the mental damage of alcohol and merely focus on the physical damage, whilst of course cirrhosis is probably the worst physical alcohol problem, alcohol abuse fucks your mind up. Also, an academic study of 600,000 people in the UK over many years found that the incidence of psychosis rates in mental hospitals remained stable or declined within the population, even whilst cannabis use skyrocketed. On top of this, most of the negative symptoms associated with ~~420 err day~~ go away after a month of abstinence. Of course it's still a psychoactive substance and should be treated with due respect and not be used constantly by those with a developing brain.

I smoked weed last week, died twice. No wonder why it's illegal.

I personally have no problem with Marijuana, I'm a casual smoker. It's less harmful than Alcohol, but that's legal.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;29744494]weed kills instantly 99% of the time and the other 1% u are adicted for life![/QUOTE] Reminds me of the story some guy told about his friend having to have his stomach pumped from a weed overdose. It was bullshit, but hilarious.