Automotive Addicts Lounge V5 - P0306 - General

So after some thought I decided to buy the Neon. It has 69xxx miles on it and so far so good. [t]https://i.imgur.com/glVybVF.jpg[/t]

actually, that's one of the cleanest looking plymouth neons I've ever seen, even thinking back to when they were new. been guttered a few times but honestly who hasn't done a curb check once or twice in their lives

[QUOTE=butre;51631144]actually, that's one of the cleanest looking neons I've ever seen. been guttered a few times but honestly who hasn't done a curb check once or twice in their lives[/QUOTE] The interior is fairly clean and in good shape as well. I'm pretty content driving in it right now. I got the Haynes book for it so I could start to try fixing things up myself when they go wrong. Also on the tool situation the local HFT I mentioned is having a blowout sale in a week so I'm going to check that out when it happens.

Back in e.r. bored as fuck.

[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;51625588]Be careful with those ebay wheels, I've heard horror stories of some being really weak[/QUOTE] Yup, my friend had some sort of cheapo ebay knockoff momo in his neon when he bought it, and you could literally grip it at 12o'clock, pull toward yourself, and it would bend like rubber. Luckily the momo in my MR2 is either real, or a decent knockoff, cause it's solid as fuck

[QUOTE=Gulen;51631001]It was -8C (17F) yesterday, didn't even notice. Yay fuel injection![/QUOTE] My car runs like shit the first minute or so idling when it's a icicle, but that's a apparent [I]"feature"[/I] of 'well used' Pumpe Düse engines. Guess I gotta take a look at the camshaft and hydraulic lifters in the spring. Also though the thermostat was busted since it had trouble reaching above 60' Celcius, turns out it's just so efficient that it can [I]JUST [/I]keep itself lukewarm in the winter. Yay, I guess...

[QUOTE=Van-man;51631392]My car runs like shit the first minute or so idling when it's a icicle, but that's a apparent [I]"feature"[/I] of 'well used' Pumpe Düse engines. Guess I gotta take a look at the camshaft and hydraulic lifters in the spring. Also though the thermostat was busted since it had trouble reaching above 60' Celcius, turns out it's just so efficient that it can [I]JUST [/I]keep itself lukewarm in the winter. Yay, I guess...[/QUOTE] that's what grille blocking is for

[QUOTE=butre;51631502]that's what grille blocking is for[/QUOTE] I don't have a cardboard sheet big enough laying around. [sp]#firstworldproblems[/sp] [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] Should've bought that rusted-out car with a diesel heater just so I could nick that.

I'm unsure if I have a problem with getting my engine up to temp in winter or if the temperature sensor is just bad. I even got an error code because of a bad engine temp sensor back in April.

[QUOTE=Van-man;51631507]I don't have a cardboard sheet big enough laying around. [sp]#firstworldproblems[/sp] [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] Should've bought that rusted-out car with a diesel heater just so I could nick that.[/QUOTE] use coroplast if you want something more permanent

Shower thought: Do you guys think that toyotas and hondas have a reputation for reliability because the kind of people who buy them are less likely to drive them hard than a Ford or Chevy or etc?

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;51632543]Shower thought: Do you guys think that toyotas and hondas have a reputation for reliability because the kind of people who buy them are less likely to drive them hard than a Ford or Chevy or etc?[/QUOTE] Well Mine took hard driving pretty well even with 330k km on it Until that happened though :v:

Toyota and Honda have a reputation for being reliable because they are simply built better. Back when Honda came to the states, people started flooding to buy them due to how long they lasted compared to domestics. All the domestic companys started to panic and stepped up to keep up. I mean, can't have some foreigner come in and show em' up now can they? It was a potential blow to their sales. Not only that, but they where simpler to work on and had cheaper parts, at the time. As far as I am aware, Honda is the reason domestics post their arrival are even half as decent as they once were. This all started in the 70's. On top of that, Ford and Chevy knew they could get away with making cars and trucks that didn't last because they were a couple of the rather limited choices around and simply saw it as a good business move. It's just business.

the hondas are incredibly reliable, I work at a citroen/honda dealership and there's so many issues on the citroens, while the 5 year old hondas still don't have any real issues.

I blame ohv vs typical cam. And also the application of the vehicle.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;51632543]Shower thought: Do you guys think that toyotas and hondas have a reputation for reliability because the kind of people who buy them are less likely to drive them hard than a Ford or Chevy or etc?[/QUOTE] A friend of mine owned 2 later model Civics, one was owned by a grandma and only driven to church (had less than 80k miles on it when he got it and came with receipts from every fuel up). He was disappointed in both and even said his 2000 VW Passat that wouldn't start when he bought it was more reliable. Other people claim that they're the best cars out there, so I guess the experience varies depending on who you are, how you take care of your stuff, and the history of the vehicle if used. My two late 80s Mercedes seem to handle hard driving well at 200k miles, but my S-Class is expensive to maintain. Everyone told me not to buy these cars, but after owning a 30 year old S-Class for 3 years with 1 breakdown from a failed fuel pump, I'd say they're fine. But a Honda or Toyota won't normally cost $1000 to run per year in maintenance unlike my S-Class. On the other hand my 190E so far is a lot cheaper to run. Despite my good experience with MB, I have friends who had MBs and won't even talk about their horrible experiences with the cars and the brand. But some of my friends are the kind of people who get into a given car and think it will always work and be as trouble free as a refrigerator and then bitch at the mechanic when they tell you to replace a ball joint for $200, so take that however you want. Now that I've completed that rant, I think a major reason for Honda/Toyota reliability is that they use [B]well proven technology[/B] and spend a lot more time refining components. Hence why you can only now get a 6 speed auto in a corolla but before like 2014, forget it. Finally, some people seem to define reliability differently. I say if a car gets me from point A to point B and never spends longer than 3 days in the shop (or my driveway) at a given time and doesn't go to the shop every week then I call it reliable.

[QUOTE=DPKiller;51630766]Sounds normal to me as it can get thick when cold. Mine will chirp the tires going into each gear for the first few miles, and will be ~10 miles before the ECU will decide to lock up the TC from it getting up to "temp". Cardboard up and idle that bitch.[/QUOTE] When does it even get "cold" down there, especially cold enough to thicken up atf to the point that your tranny does that? Its 0 degrees f before wind chill here, and my vic very rarely gets to warm up for longer than it takes for me to scrape my windshield and plug in my phone. My trans works fine right away. Edit: Come to think of it, ive never had to cardboard up my 86 f250 diesel. The temp needle never goes below the o in normal.

I've always liked my old dodge pickups, people say they're reliable while others are replacing things all the time. Its tough to say, the 94-02 dodge diesels are the only pickup trucks that regularly have 500k+ miles on them and still going that I know of. Whether its the owners just love them and keep them on the road, or if they're just genuinely indestructible is beyond me. I dont know of any other vehicle that has a club dedicated to high mileage where hitting 1 million MILES isnt outside of the norm. New vehicles are far better designed, but more expensive to maintain should something go. Maybe thats the glory of the older dodges is they're in the sweet spot for balancing cost and life. I've got 420k km and its otherwise a pretty good truck, but I'm redoing everything so that I dont have to worry about anything for another 400 thousand [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] Maybe thats the same with the hondas and toyotas, they're reliable enough that they rarely need much put into them, but when they do need something its cheap enough that it isnt that big of a problem.

2nd gen cummies are the best vehicles that were ever or will ever be made

[QUOTE=Binladen34;51628128][t]http://i.imgur.com/W0Ja7gn.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/LvadVhP.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Fucking sweet man ex cop cars are cool. my favorite thing is the weight reduction holes in the roof. [img]http://i.imgur.com/xlKL15i.jpg[/img] I miss my vic :(

[QUOTE=Birdman101;51632999]When does it even get "cold" down there, especially cold enough to thicken up atf to the point that your tranny does that? Its 0 degrees f before wind chill here, and my vic very rarely gets to warm up for longer than it takes for me to scrape my windshield and plug in my phone. My trans works fine right away. Edit: Come to think of it, ive never had to cardboard up my 86 f250 diesel. The temp needle never goes below the o in normal.[/QUOTE] My Vic hasnt acted like that before now. This morning it was fine, but last night after work and the night before it just acted it wouldn't engage the TQ converter but once I got moving, it was fine. [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] I'll check my fluid levels tomorrow, but I don't have any reason to suspect I'm low.

even though our local PD has stopped using crown vics about half a decade ago, i still instinctively downshift into third gear and engine brake every time I see one (or a black Explorer / Taurus / white Charger / Impala) a hundred meters away in my rearview mirror until it gets close enough to see the driver eternally triggered

[QUOTE=Del91;51633588]My Vic hasnt acted like that before now. This morning it was fine, but last night after work and the night before it just acted it wouldn't engage the TQ converter but once I got moving, it was fine. [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] I'll check my fluid levels tomorrow, but I don't have any reason to suspect I'm low.[/QUOTE] I was asking dp. Texas never gets below 35 degrees, right? [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=fishyfish777;51633624]even though our local PD has stopped using crown vics about half a decade ago, i still instinctively downshift into third gear and engine brake every time I see one (or a black Explorer / Taurus / white Charger / Impala) a hundred meters away in my rearview mirror until it gets close enough to see the driver eternally triggered[/QUOTE] My automatic crown vic butthole clench has all but dissapeared after owning one, but new explorers and those wierd charger taillights set me right off sweating and hitting the brakes.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;51632543]Shower thought: Do you guys think that toyotas and hondas have a reputation for reliability because the kind of people who buy them are less likely to drive them hard than a Ford or Chevy or etc?[/QUOTE] trust me, honda guys drive them hard hondas suck for lemons races though. they don't like being driven hard for too long. surprisingly alfas do pretty well at it though

[QUOTE=Birdman101;51632999]When does it even get "cold" down there, especially cold enough to thicken up atf to the point that your tranny does that? Its 0 degrees f before wind chill here, and my vic very rarely gets to warm up for longer than it takes for me to scrape my windshield and plug in my phone. My trans works fine right away. Edit: Come to think of it, ive never had to cardboard up my 86 f250 diesel. The temp needle never goes below the o in normal.[/QUOTE] MARK MY WORDS IT'S 26*F AND SNOWING.

[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;51633261]I've always liked my old dodge pickups, people say they're reliable while others are replacing things all the time. Its tough to say, the 94-02 dodge diesels are the only pickup trucks that regularly have 500k+ miles on them and still going that I know of. Whether its the owners just love them and keep them on the road, or if they're just genuinely indestructible is beyond me. I dont know of any other vehicle that has a club dedicated to high mileage where hitting 1 million MILES isnt outside of the norm. New vehicles are far better designed, but more expensive to maintain should something go. Maybe thats the glory of the older dodges is they're in the sweet spot for balancing cost and life. I've got 420k km and its otherwise a pretty good truck, but I'm redoing everything so that I dont have to worry about anything for another 400 thousand [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] Maybe thats the same with the hondas and toyotas, they're reliable enough that they rarely need much put into them, but when they do need something its cheap enough that it isnt that big of a problem.[/QUOTE] I think my chevy will hit half a million. a million isn't happening for sure though, at least not without a major overhaul that I have no interest in doing

[QUOTE=DPKiller;51633800]MARK MY WORDS IT'S 26*F AND SNOWING.[/QUOTE] Mmm it got up to around 26 today and I was so happy. Finally some warmth after the morning.

[QUOTE=butre;51633728]trust me, honda guys drive them hard hondas suck for lemons races though. they don't like being driven hard for too long. surprisingly alfas do pretty well at it though[/QUOTE] Hondas get oil temp issues really bad, then soon as the oil temps climb it causes a run away between coolant and oil temps. The bigger problem is that most people don't even know oil temps are important to watch for some silly reason. Integras in specific have awful airflow through the bumper and the US front plates destroy it terribly. After I removed my front plate, my AC actually works pretty decent where as before I figured I was going to have to replace most of it to get it working well enough again.

[QUOTE=Ldesu;51632558]Well Mine took hard driving pretty well even with 330k km on it Until that happened though :v:[/QUOTE] My Corolla's suffered mostly from rust and regular engine wear. But preventive anti-rust coating and shitbox oil and ayy, hoon them some more.

[QUOTE=Van-man;51633945]My Corolla's suffered mostly from rust and regular engine wear. But preventive anti-rust coating and shitbox oil and ayy, hoon them some more.[/QUOTE] Well I kinda crashed mine. It still worked after though.