• Philosophy Thread - deeeeeeep bro
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i think all humans are obsessive habbits are obsessions in themselves, they just don't manifest themselves in a malevolent way hobbies are obsessions that allow spiritual freedom because they allow the individual to live out their "lives" as them selves so to speak and if you think of these obsessions like loops that stack ontop of each other more and more manifesting something that blends together so seamlessly we consider it to be reality these obsessions are how we as humans realize anything from society to the chair you're sitting on cmon, try putting a different chair infront of your computer once in a while and see how it feels. you get used to it as you realize it more once it's realized, it's set in stone so to speak but at first it seemed so foreign, simply because it's new and that same rule applies to the clutter in our environment our surroundings we set things in place, then as we realize them we tend to forget about them we filter them out These are the filters that psychedelic drugs remove, they allow us to realize our surroundings over and over again, but at the same time they feel so familiar, it's because in this state of constant re-realization, everything amplifies, and the longer you look at something the longer the recent past will amplify within your mind, causing what can result in overwhelming deja vu. So it's just a matter of being smart about how and where you let yourself be obsessed while you're sober, LSD allows us to become obsessed with anything and everything, sometimes these obsessions wont calm for a long time, or until you feel you've fulfilled them and the same is true for anything you let yourself become obsessed with in reality and the only way to let yourself become obsessed with something is to approach it with open arms, positive thoughts and a serious interest in the subject. Funnily enough while you feel you may be uninterested in a subject you tend to find that through re-realization, by allowing yourself to overcome the filters that would otherwise stop you from ever thinking about said subject, will bring about obsession towards the subject and you can learn and realize the ideas and information within it and it will all feel fresh This is why it's great to wait for things in life, because if you feel like you understand it enough to never go near it, chances are you don't understand it at all
Animals (Everything but humans) are equally as smart. They just don't use technology or "man-made (animal made)" things as they co-exist in nature and understand the balance needed to protect the earth, something humans can't seem to figure. This is why they don't communicate with us, as we are their enemies.
they dont understand the balance needed to protect the earth, if you remove one animals predator that animal will proceed to fuck up the area because nothing is killing them off. the only reason they exist s o blanced is because of evolution, if it was not balanced none of them would be alive. They are not equally smart we have proved that, some are far smarter than others. they don't communicate with us because they can't speak our language lol but some try too, they try to avoid us because animals avoid most things that can be perceived as a threat.
yeah i know, smooth-e lol. animals understand the harmony of nature. more like the harmony of nature understands animals. if anything we are probably the best out of any species. most species as stormcharger said, if they start to overpopulate, will fuck things over, probably worse than humans. [editline]8th October 2012[/editline] as a species at least we pretend to care about the environment. we'll put up a new mall but make a forest a national park. if deer were the dominant species on the planet they'd fuckin eat everything and shit everywhere until they killed themselves with their own stupidity of the ignorance of the whole "food air deal"
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37953528]they dont understand the balance needed to protect the earth, if you remove one animals predator that animal will proceed to fuck up the area because nothing is killing them off. the only reason they exist s o blanced is because of evolution, if it was not balanced none of them would be alive.[/QUOTE] too bad we dont know the balance needed and even worse is that this species is becoming over-populated
are you talking about humans? at least we're self aware about our own overpopulation. there are countries who have laws in effect that you cannot have more than 1-2 children. china is especially notorious for this, probably because they outnumber americans a million to one. [editline]8th October 2012[/editline] as i said before, if some other non aware species took over the world they'd totally fuck it up. in fact the reason why humans haven't fucked the world over completely yet is because we're self aware. but also it's like george carlin said. the earth has survived countless things WAY worse than us. and when the earth is through with us it'll shake us off like a bad case of the flees
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;37961303]china is especially notorious for this, probably because they outnumber americans a million to one.[/QUOTE] four, a million, they're pretty much the same number
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37953528]they dont understand the balance needed to protect the earth, if you remove one animals predator that animal will proceed to fuck up the area because nothing is killing them off. the only reason they exist s o blanced is because of evolution, if it was not balanced none of them would be alive. They are not equally smart we have proved that, some are far smarter than others. they don't communicate with us because they can't speak our language lol but some try too, they try to avoid us because animals avoid most things that can be perceived as a threat.[/QUOTE] It's a conspiracy, mann [editline]9th October 2012[/editline] Humans are consumers and wasteful, I've never seen animals do this and they evolve slowly to adapt to nature and to us, they don't pollute. I don't se how you think that not having humans around will make a certain species rule the earth in our place. I could only see harmony from this, but maybe it's just me. We cause all of earths problems..
No we don't, animals ruined the planet before, it was before the dinosaurs that they completely fucked the planet and eradicated almost all life
If you think animals don't pollute, should look up how much greenhouse gases a cow produces in a day. It's almost as much as a car. You can't say animals don't ruin the environment too, haven't you heard of a species dying off, then a drastic change (usually for the worse) happening to an ecosystem? They are in a very delicate balance, that they have no idea of, they are animals, their only goal in life is pleasure.
[QUOTE=Smooth-e;37967890]It's a conspiracy, mann [editline]9th October 2012[/editline] Humans are consumers and wasteful, I've never seen animals do this and they evolve slowly to adapt to nature and to us, they don't pollute. I don't se how you think that not having humans around will make a certain species rule the earth in our place. I could only see harmony from this, but maybe it's just me. We cause all of earths problems..[/QUOTE] the reason humans as a whole act like greedy, oblivious consumers on an environmental scale is [i]because[/i] of our more primitive behaviours/characteristics (that we share with non-self aware animals) animals aren't all altruistic beautiful creatures with a sense of and respect for nature, the only reason any given species doesn't drain the world dry of its resources is because the other players in its ecosystem are stopping it they don't understand nature in any sense near our understanding and no other species comes to mind that is aware of its effect on the environment [i]and[/i] (at least in part) actively tries to minimise that effect. and animals have wreaked havoc on the environment before
We kill people for killing other people because killing people is wrong
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37878846]plants aren't the earth and the earth cannot die therefore it is not alive only living things have the privilege of dying[/QUOTE] but it is alive though
No it is not
Something tells me that life and death applies to every, thing. A man gets born, a man dies. A woman gets born, a woman dies. A dog gets born, a dog dies. A flower blossoms to its beauty, and then the flower dies. A star gets born in space, then the star dies. So the whole Universe got born through the "big bang," and then it will also die.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;38007413]No it is not[/QUOTE] what you don't understand is how basic your logic is concerning the concept of life
What if our dreams are attached to another dimension, and Astral Projection, and Lucid Dreaming are just crossing over to those dimensions during sleep? [QUOTE=Stormcharger;38007413]No it is not[/QUOTE] Actually the earth is a physically living thing, it can die we are killing it at the moment. The magnetic field is like it's heart. As some of you probably know, we have magnetic fields around our body from our brain, and the most powerful one from the heart. Every living thing on this planet is destroying the planet, if we can at least try and stop the way society is running it's ways at the moment, and try to become one with nature again like we were 3000 years ago. It wouldn't stop the way the earth is dying, but atleast slow down it's process.
THIS ISN'T FUCKING AVATAR, THE PLANET EARTH IS NOT ALIVE IN THE LITERAL SENSE AT ALL. [editline]12th October 2012[/editline] oh, excuse me.
[QUOTE=pancaker94;38015583]what you don't understand is how basic your logic is concerning the concept of life[/QUOTE] What you don't understand is how retarded your logic is concerning the concept of life. [editline]13th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ljonny;38015604]What if our dreams are attached to another dimension, and Astral Projection, and Lucid Dreaming are just crossing over to those dimensions during sleep? Actually the earth is a physically living thing, it can die we are killing it at the moment. The magnetic field is like it's heart. As some of you probably know, we have magnetic fields around our body from our brain, and the most powerful one from the heart. Every living thing on this planet is destroying the planet, if we can at least try and stop the way society is running it's ways at the moment, and try to become one with nature again like we were 3000 years ago. It wouldn't stop the way the earth is dying, but atleast slow down it's process.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about, the magnetic field just protects us from cosmic rays and is only there because of the magma in the earth, how is that a heart? We aren't killing the earth we are killing the things on the earth, the worst that can happen is that we destroy all life on earth however the rock and everything that makes up the earth will remain, the earth is not live. Please explain to me how you can kill the earth [editline]13th October 2012[/editline] God damn hippies
In a way, the earth being made up of both organic/living and non-living matter is similar to how we are made up of living and non-living matter (the ratios being totally different, however) to form a single, living being in another way that's pretty much bullshit though and it is kind of a useless train of thought
But the living matter can die while the earth will still be there
humans can die, our bones stick around for a while afterward [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] I don't really think the whole Earth is living btw I'm just playing a bit of devil's advocate
the whole ratios thing well... it proves that the earth isn't living at all. how much of the mass of the earth does life take up (including everything humans have built)? fuckin dick.
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[QUOTE=ljonny;38020609]Earth contains the 4 elements of life, Earth, which is minerals, rocks, sand, trees and plants. We can partake on the plants and use the minerals. Water, which we need to survive. Fire which lightens our paths at night, and even heats food to eat and is used for many other things. And Air, fresh healthy oxygen, which we also need to survive. I think that's a living thing to me, but hey, my beliefs are my beliefs, and yours are yours. Edit: Wow that actually sounds a lot like avatar now that I look it over, but to be honest, I wasn't even thinking of that show at all.[/QUOTE] Sand and rocks are the same thing, minerals look like rocks and are always solid at room temperature and are not water. Fire isn't part of the earth its just heat, fire isn't anything its just heat. Your beliefs are wrong because it is based on bullshit that isn't even true.
I don't think you could've made yourself sound more ridiculous
Me?
lol, no [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] ljonny, should've quoted him
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Man I think you've too many drugs at a young age
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