• Was 9/11 an inside job? An honest question.
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748081][IMG]http://wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg[/IMG] Does that really look like it's been hit by a gash and it's collapsing due to fire...? Oh and this building was [B]reduced to rubble.[/B][/QUOTE] It looks like a structural collapse.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24747988]Wheres your evidence? If you've got nothing to show for your talk then :fuckoff:[/QUOTE] God you are thick, we had evidence through out the last thread and all you do is ignore it
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748081][IMG]http://wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg[/IMG] Does that really look like it's been hit by a gash and it's collapsing due to fire...? ALSO, source on debris pls Oh and this building was [B]reduced to rubble.[/B][/QUOTE] internal fires?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748081][IMG]http://wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg[/IMG] Does that really look like it's been hit by a gash and it's collapsing due to fire...? ALSO, source on debris pls Oh and this building was [B]reduced to rubble.[/B][/QUOTE] Probably on the other side huh
[QUOTE=Billiam;24748102]It looks like a structural collapse.[/QUOTE] and too me it looks like it happened on the lower level, as opposed to having it collapse somewhere in the middle, then having that take down the rest of it unless the image is of it already falling
[url]http://webpages.maine207.org/staff/DMCARTHUR/9-11page/9-11page.htm[/url]
Watch this: [url]http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg[/url] That building is literally collapsing with nothing in its way to stop it. And you think that was caused by debris... you people call me dense?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748134]Watch this: [url]http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg[/url] That building is literally collapsing with nothing in its way to stop it. And you think that was caused by debris... you people call me dense?[/QUOTE] Why is that so hard to believe? The debris started a fire and then the fire systems couldn't deal with it because of low water pressure (unknown why they were low)
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748134]Watch this: [URL]http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg[/URL] That building is literally collapsing with nothing in its way to stop it. And you think that was caused by debris... you people call me dense?[/QUOTE] It looks like it collapsed in the same manner that 1 and 2 collapsed. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
911 was an inside job setup by the Antarctican government. It's a conspiracy.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24748160]Why is that so hard to believe? The debris started a fire and then the fire systems couldn't deal with it because of low water pressure (unknown why they were low)[/QUOTE] It's never happened before 9/11. Not once. A steel reinforced building burned for over 48 hours and didn't collapse, and you mean to say that now out of the blue it makes sense for it to occur? That is absurd. There are numerous red flags in the official story, which requires a long series of highly improbable coincidences. Questioning it is an act of responsible citizenship.
The levels of idiocy in this thread are too high to bear.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748183]It's never happened before 9/11. Not once. A steel reinforced building burned for over 48 hours and didn't collapse, and you mean to say that now out of the blue it makes sense for it to occur? That is absurd.[/QUOTE] Was it hit by a jet? There's a difference between spontaneous fire and jet collision
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748183]It's never happened before 9/11. Not once. A steel reinforced building burned for over 48 hours and didn't collapse, and you mean to say that now out of the blue it makes sense for it to occur? That is absurd.[/QUOTE] was the building evacuated? [editline]11:24PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DanTehMan;24748205]The levels of idiocy in this thread are too high to bear.[/QUOTE] then get out
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24748206]Was it hit by a jet? There's a difference between spontaneous fire and jet collision[/QUOTE] no but neither was building 7
I think that if 9/11 was an inside job then it would make more sense for a (group of) wealthy businessman to be behind it rather than the federal government. Lets not complicate things with the whole idea of the feds not scrambling jets to shoot them down, or the claim that strategic parts of the pentagon were hit or whatever. If the feds were lying about 9/11 then information would have (or will be) leaked. Most conspiracies involving 9/11 are based off of circumstantial evidence (for example "why is the plane so blurry? because it's not a plane - it's a missile!"). Lets look at the big picture. The main thing 9/11 did was give the country a reason and the motivation to go to war. It was a modern pearl harbor. So ask yourself - who benefits from war? Who has something to gain from invading Iraq? I'd say that America likes to place itself at the top of the pyramid when it comes to foreign policy, dictating what's okay and what's not okay. But the middle east has been non-compliant with westerners ever since the creation of Israel. America doesn't really like that it has no control in this region of the world, especially considering the middle east has vast reserves of oil and other resources that America wants. Because of this, middle eastern countries they can charge whatever they want for oil, and since America and the modern western world is so reliant on oil (for things like gasoline, machines, plastics, energy, etc) potentially middle eastern countries can cripple western countries' economies. So there are two possible entities with a stake in a war in the middle east. Oil company executives and western industrialized countries (including Israel which is a close US ally in the middle east). Another thing to consider are the arms dealers - defense contractors. You need armor, ammunition, rifles, artillery, tanks, jeeps, and their replacement parts, all kinds of products that are necessary to an ongoing military campaign. And all of this is paid for by the taxpayer - i.e., at your expense. And lets not forget the Blackwater mercenaries. So this suggests that defense contractors and mercenaries have something to gain. But what about domestic issues? Lets not ignore that since 9/11 politicians have used the tragedy to justify the stripping of our civil rights and freedoms in the name of security. Whether it be the surveillance state in Britain, or the wiretapping and warrant-less arrests in America. Effectively, a system of privilege has been instated, where a few individuals make wide-reaching decisions concerning the daily lives of individuals who have no say in how they are governed. So ask; who is threatened by your freedom? Who wants to decide how you live your life? Regardless of whether or not 9/11 was an inside job, the fact is shameless politicians and businesspeople have been using the emotional significance of the event to expand their own power and profits. Which is why I say it doesn't matter if it was an inside job or not. It's more important to realize that there are people out there exploiting a tragedy for their own personal gain.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748134]Watch this: [url]http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg[/url] That building is literally collapsing with nothing in its way to stop it. And you think that was caused by debris... you people call me dense?[/QUOTE] Did you see the other side of the building that was engulfed in flames? [img]http://www.pastpeak.com/clips/wtc7_kink.jpg[/img] How about the strain marks and sagging roof? [img]http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/wtc7-fires-close.jpg[/img] Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was cause by debris. [img]http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/wtc7.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748238]no but neither was building 7[/QUOTE] Uh, I think we're kind of going in a circle here. Debris/Low water pressure/jet-fuel fire.
Tetracycline, how many buildings have you seen collapse in your life?
[QUOTE=theJ89;24748258]America doesn't really like that it has no control in this region of the world, especially considering the middle east has vast reserves of oil and other resources that America wants. Because of this, middle eastern countries they can charge whatever they want for oil, and since America and the modern western world is so reliant on oil (for things like gasoline, machines, plastics, energy, etc) potentially middle eastern countries can cripple western countries' economies. So there are two possible entities with a stake in a war in the middle east. Oil company executives and western industrialized countries (including Israel which is a close US ally in the middle east).[/QUOTE] This is convenient, but I wouldn't use it in a debate as evidence
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748134]Watch this: [URL]http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg[/URL] That building is literally collapsing with nothing in its way to stop it. And you think that was caused by debris... you people call me dense?[/QUOTE] I like how all your "sources" are conspiracy theorist websites that have 911 or WTC in the title. Try to find a legimitate source and we might listen to you.
[QUOTE=theJ89;24748258] Regardless of whether or not 9/11 was an inside job, the fact is shameless politicians and businesspeople have been using the emotional significance of the event to expand their own power and profits. Which is why I say it doesn't matter if it was an inside job or not. It's more important to realize that there are people out there exploiting a tragedy for their own personal gain.[/QUOTE] This guy has it exactly right. 'oh no the address bar has a word related to the subject, must be heresy!' Cmon man, you probably didn't even check to see if the website backed up its claims with sources. Which it does, to numerous scientific papers.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748391]This guy has it exactly right.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about, that's part of the democratic process.
i find it horrible what happend back then but i think you just need to discus it for 2 years after it happend and then never talk about it because i can't turn my pc on at 9/11 without seeing something about it.
ALL 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE FALSE VISIT MY WEBSITE [url]www.all9/11conspiracytheoriesarefalse.com[/url] THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CLAIMS THERE YOU SHOULD READ IT. :downs:
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;24748435]i find it horrible what happend back then but i think you just need to discus it for 2 years after it happend and then never talk about it because i can't turn my pc on at 9/11 without seeing something about it.[/QUOTE] It's ONE time a year. I think you can do something other than check forums these few days. And it's not like you have to click the thread. Besides, it'd be pretty freakin stupid for conspiracy theorists to theorize conspiracies that soon afterwards. 10 years is just fine. I guess what I'm trying to say is :frog:
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;24748435]i find it horrible what happend back then but i think you just need to discus it for 2 years after it happend and then never talk about it because i can't turn my pc on at 9/11 without seeing something about it.[/QUOTE] Are you stupid? For one day out of and ENTIRE YEAR, you can't just respect the dead and deal with it? If it bothers you that much, why are you posting in this thread, keeping it alive? I think you're a liar. You want to talk about it, but only in an insulting way.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;24748391]This guy has it exactly right. 'oh no the address bar has a word related to the subject, must be heresy!' Cmon man, you probably didn't even check to see if the website backed up its claims with sources. Which it does, to numerous scientific papers.[/QUOTE] Scientific papers? As in, published in scientific journals by highly educated, qualified people? Where are all the structural engineers, physicists, etc. backing up your side?
[QUOTE=Haywood;24748502]Where are all the structural engineers, physicists, etc. backing up your side?[/QUOTE] *Cough I think they all claim the theories to be false cough*
[QUOTE=Haywood;24748502]Scientific papers? As in, published in scientific journals by highly educated, qualified people? Where are all the structural engineers, physicists, etc. backing up your side?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/"]Why it just so happens I have a link right here, just for you[/URL]
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