I just played Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
The game is absolutely huge and the end credits run for ages because so many people were involved in making it. How the hell is it remotely justified for me to expect them to make a game like that for free?
[QUOTE=Qombat;29292285]ARRRRRR? :v:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Greenen72;29292231]A letter from Sony?[/QUOTE]
No no, he loves the C!
Whats a pirates favorite restraunt?
[QUOTE=sltungle;29292381]So it's acceptable if EVERYONE who ever plays game X pirates said game because no physical copies were taken, even though, because EVERYONE pirated it, the developer will make no money?[/QUOTE]
That wasn't the point. The point was that you can't compare files on a computer to tangible things. Also, it's already been stated that the majority of piracy occurs in situations that wouldn't result in a purchase anyway.
Piracy is fighting the system! Thug lyfe!11
[QUOTE=mikfoz;29292563]I just played Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
The game is absolutely huge and the end credits run for ages because so many people were involved in making it. How the hell is it remotely justified for me to expect them to make a game like that for free?[/QUOTE]
It's justified because it doesn't make a difference to the people who made it because even if you buy it, they will still be paid little(considering the mass of such a huge corporation) and unfairly.
The people who made it aren't asking you to buy it, they're asking you to play it.
Fitting.
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What about if it's something you would NEVER pay for and never otherwise buy, are they losing money if you download it for free? (and not distribute it)
There are people that bought a legit copy, liked it, and feel good about giving their money to people who worked on the game. (good for both sides)
There are people that bought legit copy, didn't like it, and feel ripped off by falling for false advertisement. (customer got ripped off, company gained on customers cost)
The ones that pirate a game, try it, like it, and then buy the legit copy, as an appreciation of the work people did on said game. (good for both, company isn't loosing money or potential customers)
There are people that pirate a game, try it, don't like it, and don't buy it. (good for the one downloading, he didn't get ripped off. Company has lost a potential customer. I'd say it's good because the one downloading didn't fall for the false advertisement, didn't loose money on something worthless for him)
There are people that pirate a game, like it, and don't pay for it. Now obviously the company just lost a sale. Lost money. The company got ripped off. The pirate gained on company's cost.
I'd say the first and second type of pirating is alright.
I would never pirate a game, the designers put so much effort into some of them. It would be super mean to not pay them for their work, whether it's a good game or a bad game, they need to eat and stuff too.
I only pirate as a trial run of the game, if its utterly terrible then I don't buy the game (Looking at you CoD), if its good, I'll support the company by buying it and recommending it to my friends and encourage them to buy it, Garrys Mod, Killing floor, CS:S, I've managed to persuade a few people to get a few decent games
I've never pirated games and I never will pirate, because I have money and I'll always buy games for them.
That's truth :v:
No, seriously :v:
I think I see where you are coming from but to be honest, you didn't explain your point that well.
The people who make the game tend to receive a fairly small percentage of the total sales with the rest going to the publisher.
[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;29287534]For one, your stupid; not only is pirating illegal in most countries, but it is also stealing.
Stealing is stealing, regardless from who it is.
Stealing from a big company is pretty much the equivilant of stealing from a small company. It's still stealing.
You cannot say pirating is good, in ANY way.[/QUOTE]
Stealing is when you take something and the orignal isent there anymore. Like if someone would steal your car or bike. Would you care if someone took your car or bike but it was still there they only took an exakt copy off it
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29291790]tax cuts result in the government losing money: it's money they never had to begin with.[/QUOTE]
I buy the majority of my games through Steam and it never charges me tax.
Piracy isn't stealing, but you are getting something for nothing so It's all burry.
But I still hate piracy (And Pirates) for their morals and the fact they end up causing idiot developers to cram DRM into everything, which ends up wailing on me and the others that put money into buying the games.
DRM is useless though.
[QUOTE=scroul;29294970]Stealing is when you take something and the orignal isent there anymore. Like if someone would steal your car or bike. Would you care if someone took your car or bike but it was still there they only took an exakt copy off it[/QUOTE]
A question to ask that would be more fair would be: Would you care if someone took an exact copy of your car or bike for free if you ran a business selling these copies which gave you a living and fed your family?
If I buy a CD in a shop and rip it to my computer, that's fine.
If I buy a record in a shop and hook the headphones socket up to my computer and record it, that's fine.
But if I buy a record in a shop only to find that it skips so I download a digital version from the internet, that's illegal?
That makes no sense.
[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;29288218]Piracy removes the money the company could have made.
Theft steals the money.
So, the company doesn't even get the money from the "sale". It's stealing.
[editline]19th April 2011[/editline]
Ninja.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to steal something that doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=soad_jonas;29287513]I've never pirated an indie game and I never will.
I only pirate those kind of games with $60 pricetags and 5 hour campaigns.
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Why is he banned? Other people admitted to the same thing, yet other people aren't banned?
if youve ever seen one piece youd understand that piracy is a fun and lighthearted affair
Morality is subjective, though.
I find the argument that people pirate games because of DRM somewhat rediculous. The reason DRM becomes more and more draconian is because people pirate the media it's used to protect. If you break that DRM, they will try and make it more it even more draconian. Vote against it by both not purchasing the media, and by [b]not[/b] pirating it. Pirating it will merely make the company go "That DRM wasn't secure enough - we need to make more secure."
Suggesting that this is the company's fault is also rediculous - people were still pirating media even when it wasn't secured with DRM or other forms of copyright protection. Why should they be blamed for attempting to stop people taking their stuff for free?
I agree that some DRM makes some media unusable (ahem, Ubisoft), but I'll protest that by not purchasing that media - not just justifying the company using even more draconian DRM measures by pirating it.
Pay for game
Get game for free
Its so hard I can't decide :saddowns:
I like how people are using the fact piracy isn't stealing in their own definition to support it.
Here's a tip: don't. It's as bad bringing it up against piracy as for it, because it's not really relevant. Resorting to grammar when trying to show that a person is right kind of demonstrates the opposite.
I feel people should only pirate games if they're going to buy it or have previously paid for it but the CD is lost/damaged ect
Watch review of the game or play it at friend?
It's not that hard.
If you weren't going to pay for it in the first place, downloading it makes NO difference. AT ALL.
[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29296641]If you weren't going to pay for it in the first place, downloading it makes NO difference. AT ALL.[/QUOTE]
If you aren't going to pay for it, and the company isn't giving it away for free, why do you deserve to have it for free? If you don't feel it's worth buying, just don't buy it.
[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;29288218]Piracy removes the money the company could have made.
Theft steals the money.
So, the company doesn't even get the money from the "sale". It's stealing.
[editline]19th April 2011[/editline]
Ninja.[/QUOTE]
No, the person would never have bought it until the price lowered, sold second hand or it was [I]shown on TV[/I](for a movie) thus what you are saying is incorrect.
Therefore buying second hand music and movies is [I]stealing[/I] the revenue from companys.. which is in itself foolish.
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