• The Zeitgeist movement is pointless
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28138410]You know if he wanted your stuff he could just go get the same stuff you have. Its not like he would take yours or anything.[/QUOTE] [editline]19th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SIRIUS;28138338]This silly notion of "your" and "mine" is fictional, and unnecessary in a stable environment of abundance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;28138338]This silly notion of "your" and "mine" is fictional, and unnecessary in a stable environment of abundance.[/QUOTE] Well sure most people didnt believe in "there" stuff until money. You can see this with the early native Americans. But There would of course be a few personal stuff they would keep with them like a hard drive or something like that because they wouldn't want to have to transfer it all. [editline]18th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SIRIUS;28138426][editline]19th February 2011[/editline][/QUOTE] You know what I mean. Its just easier to say your.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28138453]Well sure most people didnt believe in "there" stuff until money. You can see this with the early native Americans. But There would of course be a few personal stuff they would keep with them like a hard drive or something like that because they wouldn't want to have to transfer it all.[/QUOTE] the data could be stored on a server
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;28138471]the data could be stored on a server[/QUOTE] Yea I thought about this after I posted this but I don't think it would be that big of a hassle to bring a little usb chip every where you go instead of leaving it.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28138505]Yea I thought about this after I posted this but I don't think it would be that big of a hassle to bring a little usb chip every where you go instead of leaving it.[/QUOTE] true
[QUOTE=livelonger12;28072284] is somewhat reflective of terrorism.[/QUOTE] And fear mongering don't forget that, but those two things are kinda close anyway. I agree 100% with everything you've said though.
Fearing environmental collapse is something people should be afraid of. I mean its scarier then anything you see a terrorist do.
[QUOTE=livelonger12;28072284]Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and their followers will never overthrow the current socio-economic structure of humanity -- we don't need that. The current economic paradigm is fine; it's adjusted by nature itself via capitalism and its principle, natural selection; and it's sustained by a slight mix of socialism (e.g. via universal healthcare). The worst of this movement are the conspiracy films in which they attempt to "expose" the supposedly corrupt leaders behind the system -- a move that will never assist them. The governments are not there to betray the people, and do not lie to the people. The governments govern society to eliminate social and economic pathologies. That, and their anticipation of the monetary system for collapse -- this will not happen. Sure, it has its ups and downs, but the system is fine for our needs, and will eventually result in global sustainability (how about that? No poverty? Surely such a system must be removed!). In short, all these global and socio-economic conspiracy movements are dumb -- they're nothing more than paranoid agendas pushed by a small group or a single leader that is somewhat reflective of terrorism. I shall now proceed to my tinfoil house to eat my tinfoil pancakes![/QUOTE] You are just saying that just because you don't want to believe to.
[QUOTE=Mesos;28139228]And fear mongering don't forget that, but those two things are kinda close anyway. I agree 100% with everything you've said though.[/QUOTE] Except that the reason we're destroying the environment is because companies care more about their money than anything else.
It's sad that anyone actually cares about the Zeitgeist movement
Also, the notions of "population" reduction are pathetic -- governments would never resort to such measures, and couldn't due to the intertwined interaction with the population.
NO U GOTTA FITE THE SYSTEm
[QUOTE=livelonger12;28380905]Also, the notions of "population" reduction are pathetic -- governments would never resort to such measures, and couldn't due to the intertwined interaction with the population.[/QUOTE] Well I guess if they somehow made a war for the soul purpose of killing people but besides that unless they want to reduce how many children you have they cant really just start killing people.
[QUOTE=Lufttygger306;28167995]It's sad that anyone actually cares about the Zeitgeist movement[/QUOTE] It is sad, but not in the way you're talking about. It's sad to see people so desperate in the current system that they are willing to embrace ridiculous social engineering fantasies like this. We need change... just not the kind Zeitgeist advocates.
Silly 21st century You still use [i]money[/i] [img]http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/TNGCaption31d.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Sector 7;28397197]It is sad, but not in the way you're talking about. It's sad to see people so desperate in the current system that they are willing to embrace ridiculous social engineering fantasies like this. We need change... just not the kind Zeitgeist advocates.[/QUOTE] And yet you cant think of an a real reason why it shouldn't be used. I mean a lot of argument against it is that we greed to motivate people and stuff like that. I think Demark is a great example of why thats not true. Denmark has on average more inventions per people, less crimes, less sick, smarter and nicer people. Its obviously an improvement. But yet you people think people will only invent or paint if they get paid when studies show money destroys creativity.
Zeitgeist is pointless. A lot of shit is pointless. It's not always about getting stuff done, though, and nobody seems to understand that. Sometimes it's just about awareness or power of collective mentality.
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