Social taboos and judgement - General

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21682867]Legalize incest (with protection), polygamy, drugs and public nudity. Why not?[/QUOTE] Sure, excluding harmful drugs. Why not?

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21682898]Sure, excluding harmful drugs. Why not?[/QUOTE] Caffeine is technically a harmful drug. Do you realize the irony of drawing a line like that in a thread decrying taboo

[QUOTE=Zeke129;21682936]Caffeine is technically a harmful drug. Do you realize the irony of drawing a line like that in a thread decrying taboo[/QUOTE] Sure, in large amounts. Technically. Decrying [i]unharmful[/i] taboos.

It's all based off what you were taught. Someone thought homosexuality was bad a long time ago so they spread the idea. Ever since, homosexuality was bad. You get enough people to believe you or to have similar ideologies and your idea goes down solidly set in their minds possibly forever. I don't agree with the fact that people blindly follow things they have been told or raised to know, but sadly, it is how the world works.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21682898]Sure, excluding harmful drugs. Why not?[/QUOTE] :cawg: You do realize that making drugs illegal only creates an illegal market for them, allowing gangs to make millions while buttfucking society. The war on drugs only creates more shit to deal with a problem that would be better solved by making all drugs legal, and using the drug war money for education on what happens when you do fucking heroin. Further more, people wouldn't go to dealers who lace pot with crack or some other dumb shit. Fuck. [editline]10:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21682960]Sure, in large amounts. Technically. Decrying [i]unharmful[/i] taboos.[/QUOTE] make sugar illegal in large amounts it can kill you

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21682898]Sure, excluding harmful drugs. Why not?[/QUOTE] This is an ironic post because this is how taboos start for fucks sake. A man can harm himself if he wants, but someone else wants to push his moral code on him.

Some taboos are justified like child pornography because children don't know what they are getting in to, incest because of potential mutations (if having sex to have children). However there are a lot that don't really make sense to me. I think it's just that people are afraid of what people will think of them. People are afraid of being rejected by their friends and family. It's like religion in the old days, people didn't dare question it because then people will try to kill them. So I think the real answer is us, it's hard to move everyone's ideas of norm at once. So everyone keeps each other in line through their fear of getting out of line? Just an idea.

Ok, then, putting that argument aside it's a good example. Why do people feel socially obligated to protect people they don't know by changing their lifestyle? An insightful post, Mechanical.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683110]Ok, then, putting that argument aside it's a good example. Why do people feel socially obligated to protect people they don't know by changing their lifestyle?[/QUOTE] Because every Tom, Dick, and Joe feels they know what's best for everyone.

Makes us sleep good at night, I suppose. People want to feel that their way of life is the right way of life to make them self feel important, which from a universal stand-point, they really aren't. To also have a reason to live, I guess.

Fun Fact: Every single culture has an incest taboo. [editline]10:12PM[/editline] You guys are trying to make it out to be that Westerners lack culture, or our culture is inherently bad, which is strange, because that's sort of anti-ethnocentrism (which is a big no-no for any respectable person.)

[quote=canuhearme?;21683207]that's sort of anti-ethnocentrism ([b]which is a big no-no for any respectable person.[/b])[/quote] taboo spotted

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683207]Fun Fact: Every single culture has an incest taboo.[/QUOTE] Well it's easy to see why people would make that a taboo since it interferes with survival in a time when death was easier to come by. However, it really doesn't matter much today since our population is so high.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683241]taboo spotted[/QUOTE] [quote][B]Ethnocentrism[/B] is the tendency to believe that one's ethnic or cultural group is centrally important, and that all other groups are measured in relation to one's own.[/quote] That's not taboo, being ethnocentric is believing your own culture is superior to other cultures, and you need to compare other cultures to your own. [editline]10:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;21683255]Well it's easy to see why people would make that a taboo since it interferes with survival in a time when death was easier to come by. However, it really doesn't matter much today [B]since our population is so high.[/B][/QUOTE] It's not. And you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting that incest is as good an option as any in today's society.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683272]That's not taboo, being ethnocentric is believing your own culture is superior to other cultures, and you need to compare other cultures to your own.[/QUOTE] I know what ethnocentric is, but you said being ethnocentric is a shameful thing- you're perpetuating a taboo

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683301]I know what ethnocentric is, but you said being ethnocentric is a shameful thing- you're perpetuating a taboo[/QUOTE] By your logic, I should argue that white imperialists in the 1800s who said black people were somewhere between animal and man (and thus should be enslaved and enlightened by the White Man due to their "primitive and savage culture") were justified, because saying they were bigoted (specifically, ethnocentrist) would be a taboo.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683355]By your logic, I should argue that people who said black people were somewhere between animal and man (and thus should be enslaved and enlightened by the White Man) were justified, because saying they were bigoted would be a taboo.[/QUOTE] LOL, that wasn't my logic at all! You must've been absent from school on analogy day.

:pedo:

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683370]LOL, that wasn't my logic at all! You must've been absent from school on analogy day.[/QUOTE] I think you are failing to understand that Ethnocentrism isn't a taboo.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683272]It's not.[/QUOTE] We have little to worry about in First World Countries if our population keeps climbing the way it does. [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683272]And you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting that incest is as good an option as any in today's society.[/QUOTE] Why not? Consensually regulated so that children aren't birthed what's the issue?

i challenge social taboos by going up to people and asking, "do you fuck goats?"

[QUOTE=NickFury666;21683471]i challenge social taboos by going up to people and asking, "do you fuck goats?"[/QUOTE] Wise.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683454]I think you are failing to understand that Ethnocentrism isn't a taboo.[/QUOTE] That's NOT what I said, fuck, are you this slow? I said that you're perpetuating the taboo that being ethnocentric is bad.

[QUOTE=Billiam;21683455] Why not? Consensually regulated so that children aren't birthed what's the issue?[/QUOTE] People who think fucking their sister is both arousing and sexually desirable probably won't be sane/intelligent enough to use proper birth control. Besides, that would pretty much be taking a giant shit on any concept of global morality, there's a really good reason why every culture on Earth since the dawn of time thinks banging a blood relative is a [I]really bad idea.[/I]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683509]People who think fucking their sister is both arousing and sexually desirable probably won't be sane/intelligent enough to use proper birth control.[/QUOTE] Typical, immature stereotyping. Ever read any of Freud's books?

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683509]People who think fucking their sister is both arousing and sexually desirable probably won't be sane/intelligent enough to use proper birth control.[/QUOTE] Then punish the people who don't use birth-control for it. [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683509]Besides, that would pretty much be taking a giant shit on any concept of global morality, there's a really good reason why every culture on Earth since the dawn of time thinks banging a blood relative is a [I]really bad idea.[/I][/QUOTE] Global morality? What the fuck is this shit? Legally no one should have the ability to enforce morality regardless of culture.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683506]That's NOT what I said, fuck, are you this slow? I said that you're perpetuating the taboo that being ethnocentric is bad.[/QUOTE] I don't think you fully realize what I'm trying to say, are you honestly suggesting that being ethnocentric is a [U]good thing?[/U] Being accused of Ethnocentrism transcends cultural taboo, it's globally regarded as being, you know, a crappy researcher. [editline]10:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;21683545] [B]Global morality? What the fuck is this shit?[/B] Legally no one should have the ability to enforce morality regardless of culture.[/QUOTE] Couldn't think of a better word, but what I'm trying to say is that it's not like the United States is the only one that thinks incest is a bad idea (every culture ever has said it's a bad idea.) Besides, I thought this was an argument over how incest shouldn't be seen as morally questionable, not as a legal issue. [editline]10:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;21683545]Then punish the people who don't use birth-control for it. [/QUOTE] What if they want the child? Whose to say they aren't allowed to keep it?

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683548]I don't think you fully realize what I'm trying to say, are you honestly suggesting that being ethnocentric is a [U]good thing?[/U] [/QUOTE] NO! Wow, when are you going to get this? Go re-read my posts, I'm not writing it again for you.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683241]taboo spotted[/QUOTE] Looks like you find enforcing taboos taboo.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683603]NO! Wow, when are you going to get this? Go re-read my posts, I'm not writing it again for you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683207](which is a big no-no for any respectable person.)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683241]taboo spotted[/QUOTE] That's how this entire argument started. You accused me of perpetuating a taboo by saying being ethnocentric is a bad thing for any intelligent person. Being ethnocentric is bad, regardless of culture. Being ethnocentric is [U]not[/U] a taboo, taboo is an unofficial social ban on any human activity or subject which is considered culturally questionable, while Ethnocentrism is simply being a close-minded idiot who refuses to believe other cultures should be judged on their own merits, not yours.