I want to be naked in public. Why does it have to be so wrong? :frown:
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683716]That's how this entire argument started. You accused me of perpetuating a taboo by saying being ethnocentric is a bad thing for any intelligent person.
Being ethnocentric is bad, regardless of culture. Being ethnocentric is [U]not[/U] a taboo, taboo is an unofficial social ban on any human activity or subject which is considered culturally questionable, while Ethnocentrism is simply being a close-minded idiot who refuses to believe other cultures should be judged on their own merits, not yours.[/QUOTE]
Ok, so you're saying that it's [b]NOT[/b] a taboo simply because you regard it as fact.
read: wrong
because weirdos need to learn to act normal
[QUOTE=LightCybrid;21683720]I want to be naked in public. Why does it have to be so wrong? :frown:[/QUOTE]
Because all the naked and ugly fat fucks would ruin sex for everyone forever, and humanity would die out due to a lack of reproduction.
[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683768]Ok, so you're saying that it's [B]NOT[/B] a taboo simply because you regard it as fact.
read: wrong[/QUOTE]
Are you honestly this thick? Do I have to spell it out for you?
Take any University Sociology or Anthropology course, and the [B]FIRST[/B] thing you'll learn are two terms: Cultural Relativism, and Ethnocentrism. They teach you that being culturally relativistic (judge a culture on it's own merits) is good, and ethnocentrism is bad.
Ethnocentrism is what caused us to regard blacks as above average monkeys for a greater part of the 1800s, Ethnocentrism is what caused slavery and social Darwinism and, in the later stages of the century, Eugenics.
Ethnocentrism is as much a term as the Scientific Method.
Who says regarding others lowly is a bad thing? Regardless of rather or not it is a [b]SOUND TABOO[/b], it's still a [b]TABOO[/b].
It's like explaining something to a four year old.
What OP really is asking is not about 'taboos' but about the larger theme of the way we live our life, our morals. In that case, the reason we have taboos is the same reason we wouldn't have them. Our society just became structured in a way where some things became acceptable and some didn't. Obviously everyone has their own morals at birth.
Person A may believe that X is the best, while person B may believe Y is better. Society without firmly structured morals is not a co-operative one. If A believes that we shouldn't hurt people, and B thinks that we all have the right to rape people, there is bound to be conflict. So social taboos and social laws were put in place by the strong to control the minds and lives of the rest. Brainwashing and the like eventually declared to children certain virtues they needed to live by, "being kind, honest, hard working" etc, regardless of if the children wanted to or not.
As per the whole "entrho" blah debate. Saying 'ethnorcentrism is bad' does not neccerily mean that you are pushing a tabboo. We as indviduals all have our own 'tabboos' or our morals. Canu can be taking the step as a specific individual to take control of his life and decide for himself. Not following grounded morals but making his/her own decision on how to live ones life.
[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683926][B]Who says regarding others lowly is a bad thing?[/B] Regardless of rather or not it is a [B]SOUND TABOO[/B], it's still a [B]TABOO[/B].
It's like explaining something to a four year old.[/QUOTE]
I think that statement removes any validity to your argument.
Plus, you seriously don't know what Taboo is, it's not a word that can apply to anything which is regarded as bad.
I am perfectly happy co-existing with the social taboos we have in place. I can't see any benefits from running around with my cock out, shitting in public, promoting race-related violence, etc.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683548]Couldn't think of a better word, but what I'm trying to say is that it's not like the United States is the only one that thinks incest is a bad idea (every culture ever has said it's a bad idea.)
Besides, I thought this was an argument over how incest shouldn't be seen as morally questionable, not as a legal issue.[/QUOTE]
Ah I see, in that case I somewhat agree.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683548]What if they want the child? Whose to say they aren't allowed to keep it?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about whether or not they should be able to keep it, but I am certain intentionally procreating a deformed child is a bad thing.
SToP SAYING TABOO
[QUOTE=Billiam;21684093]
I'm not sure about whether or not they should be able to keep it, but I am certain intentionally procreating a deformed child is a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
But [I]why[/I] is it a bad thing? If the two agree to having a child, why should it be any different from a "traditional" couple having a child?
That's how the incest taboo started.
[QUOTE=Billiam;21684093]
I'm not sure about whether or not they should be able to keep it, but I am certain intentionally procreating a deformed child is a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
I feel like I'm in debate season all over again, "Why are disabilities bad?' Ect. Biopolitics, buzzwords.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21684143]But [I]why[/I] is it a bad thing? If the two agree to having a child, why should it be any different from a "traditional" couple having a child?
That's how the incest taboo started.[/QUOTE]
Because the child could suffer from multiple health-defects as a result from inbreeding.
It'd be all well and dandy if the child was likely to grow up to be healthy.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21684143]But [I]why[/I] is it a bad thing? If the two agree to having a child, why should it be any different from a "traditional" couple having a child?
That's how the incest taboo started.[/QUOTE]
Sex doesn't have just one intent. It's not just for babies.
[QUOTE=rosar0980;21682451]People have their warped idea of the world. They think with all these things that are "wrong" or "unacceptable", and force them on others, they can make the world a perfect place. When, in reality, not having these would have the effect people are trying for. We feel the need to force our beliefs, thinkings, morals, and whatever else you want to call it, upon the world we live in. If the Muslims would realize that they don't need to force their beliefs on Christians (and all other Protestant religions) because we worship the same God, we wouldn't have 9/11 or the War in Iraq. Our planet just wants us all to be the same, but that will never happen because if it did, we would rip a hole in the space time continuom (or just not be able to tell mom from dad).[/QUOTE]
Our planet doesn't doesn't want anything.
I act judgmental when I'm really not just to get ignorant "normal" people to accept me. Mainly because it's not worth the effort to argue, but I fucking hate people like that. I try to be as open-minded as possible with everything, as that's my view of what a person should be.
You spelled "judgment" wrong.
[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21683110]Ok, then, putting that argument aside it's a good example. [b][highlight]Why do people feel socially obligated to protect people they don't know by changing their lifestyle?[/b][/highlight][/QUOTE]
Because if you are able to turn enough people on to your own way of thinking, you don't have to be concerned with whether or not you're wrong.
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[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21683207]Fun Fact: Every single culture has an incest taboo.[/QUOTE]
What about amongst practitioners of incest? Subcultures are cultures.
[QUOTE=franz;21684700]I act judgmental when I'm really not just to get ignorant "normal" people to accept me. Mainly because it's not worth the effort to argue, but I fucking hate people like that. I try to be as open-minded as possible with everything, as that's my view of what a person should be.[/QUOTE]
I agree. A lot of times when the subject of twilight, Justin bieber, mac products, cross-dressing, lady gaga, comes up in real life I'm often going along with what they are saying when they say how much they hate it to seem normal.
Another thing I hate is when someone declares something bad when they don't like it. I have often heard people saying that X type of music or music from X artist is shit. If anyone were to disagree with them then he would think of that person as not knowing what they were talking about.
I saw twilight by myself once because I couldn't trust people's opinions that it were bad since they seemed like they didn't have any backing. I didn't like the movie, not because there were sparkling vampires or romance, but because the acting and the scripting was pretty bad.
[QUOTE=uhrwerk_maus;21681983]My hair is blue. I have butterfly knives. My ears are peirced. People think I'm weird.
A shit, i give not.[/QUOTE]
Batterfry knives are the shit. I had a collection of them.
Anyway, the way I deal with it is act sane and don't do anything crazy, and then society is like "Whatever".
i dont see why tattoos are such a taboo thing, people think you're some criminal if you have them.
or piercing in strange places.
A lot of social taboos relate back to religion
[QUOTE=hehe;21710794]i dont see why tattoos are such a taboo thing, people think you're some criminal if you have them.
or piercing in strange places.[/QUOTE]
If you have a ton of suspicious looking tats then it looks pretty nasty.
There are a lot of reasons, one is generalization and stereotyping. Humans are trained to see patterns everywhere, if you see a pattern of everyone with a tattoo being dangerous or everyone who walks around naked being crazy, it's a little hard to reverse that. Even if you know someone fairly well but find out they do something you have associated with being bad, it can lead you to believe that they are a problem.
Liking Justin Bieber for one, most people have associated liking his music with being a 12 year old girl. If someone does like him but is not a 12 year old girl, you will try and make a connection between them and what you thought they should be. 12 year old girls are stupid and have bad taste in music, so they must too.
Don't think religion or morality are related, they just help them get propagated down through generations. If you are told there is a pattern there while you are a child, you can often see it even when you have no first hand evidence of it. If you are told people with tattoos are bad while you are young, even if you have never met someone, it will stick in your mind.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;21710823]If you have a ton of suspicious looking tats then it looks pretty nasty.[/QUOTE]
unless it obvious gang signs, no its not.
I'll admit, I had a friend that I didnt know was atheist. they arent really atheist, they told me they just dont understand either concept at all though. (she is actually really not that bright)
but as a Catholic, I cant help but wish she would share my beliefs. Some people who feel the same as me might take it to another level and FORCE her to go with religion when that will push her away even more. The same rule goes for any view on a certain subject.
Social taboos just come naturally, thats just the way humans are unless you are raised differently. In my opinion, its just the way humans are naturally born.
I have a gay friend who literally wonders why I like girls so much, hes not in ANY WAY attracted to me (I know that for a fact) but just like me, I cant understand what is going on in his head just like he cant understand whats going on in my head.
What I don't know I don't like, what I don't like I don't want...
It's just how open your mind is, how hard it is for you to accept new things and change.
But since our society is "lead" by conservatives, change is generally hard, and new cultures take time to be accepted. This is even worse when you realise that society is at 90% composed of a mass, and that this mass is conservative because the lead is.
hope am not being a cunt. :v:
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21681999]Well in that case societal taboos exist because people are [b]stupid[/b] and feel the need to push their false morality on other people. It's as simple as that.[/QUOTE]
Except for scene kids, they deserve to be re-educated
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