[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17674979]Haha, well if that's how you think about it. ;) Just saying, Denmark is far from perfect.[/QUOTE]
Nowhere is perfect :)
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17675064]That just insane. I'll kill whoever in self-defense, then kill the police officer who comes to arrest me in self-defense. Then I'll get shot... Well, fuck it, point is: it's insane.[/QUOTE]
Well it's not really just killing, but harming in general.
A police officer lost his job and got some months in prison for shooting a armed suspect in the leg.
If he shot and killed the guy, he would still be employed.
The police in Norway aren't armed with guns, they only have handcuffs and batons...
[QUOTE=ole johan;17675036]In norway, if someone wants to hurt you, you'll get hurt, with a knife, bat or gun, it doesn't matter,
you're not allowed to defend yourself by killing him/her.
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I think you're confusing "reasonable force" with "nope you have to die".
By the way, it's hardly "arrest" in Norway, it's usually a long talk about what's what, but should you actually have a weapon, you're going to have to wait a couple of hours for the police to bring in guns from far away, only the criminals and forestfreaks have guns nowadays.
[QUOTE=ole johan;17675036]It's a fucking area of the city, ofcourse it's 'our' territory, but they are claiming it because there are so many immigrants there.
And most of them do in no way own it, they rent it or the goverment rents it for them.[/QUOTE]
If just one person owns a piece of land with no restrictions from the time he bought or acquired it, I don't see why he shouldn't be able to declare it sovereign territory. If they rent the place, and thus are under certain restrictions, the landlord should be able to expel them from his property if those restrictions are violated. His property is not Greenland. They should not be expelled from Greenland.
Forget norway, [i][b]KENYAAAAAAAAAAAA[/b][/i]
[quote=wewt!;17675193]Forget norway, [i][b]KENYAAAAAAAAAAAA[/b][/i][/quote]
Or [i][b]SOMALIAAAAAAAAAAAA[/b][/i]
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17675141]If just one person owns a piece of land with no restrictions from the time he bought or acquired it, I don't see why he shouldn't be able to declare it sovereign territory. If they rent the place, and thus are under certain restrictions, the landlord should be able to expel them from his property if those restrictions are violated. His property is not Greenland. They should not be expelled from Greenland.[/QUOTE]
Nobody was talking about expelling.
Should they for some reason declare sovereign territory, they'd be fucked, considering the goverment of Norway is their main income.
Greenland is a small city neighbourhood, they are trying to CLAIM IT AS THEIRS, don't you see the stupidity?
They are trying to expel OTHERS from the area.
[QUOTE=ole johan;17675207]Nobody was talking about expelling.
Should they for some reason declare sovereign territory, they'd be fucked, considering the goverment of Norway is their main income.
Greenland is a small city neighbourhood, they are trying to CLAIM IT AS THEIRS, don't you see the stupidity?
They are trying to expel OTHERS from the area.[/QUOTE]
... Therefore, because they're obviously stupid and only hurting themselves, we should expel them from Greenland.
And yes, we were talking about expulsion:
[QUOTE=Eskill;17673102]Why can't we just close the border and send every immigrants who won't work for a living and want to change our cultur to their favor back to where they came from.[/QUOTE]
If that's not what you'd suggest, please tell me what you would suggest, and I'll be happy to tell you why you're wrong, if you're wrong.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17675293]... Therefore, because they're obviously stupid and only hurting themselves, we should expel them from Greenland.
And yes, we were talking about expulsion:
If that's not what you'd suggest, please tell me what you would suggest, and I'll be happy to tell you why you're wrong, if you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
I'm not in any way saying they should be removed, sure, let them stay, but they can't just claim areas they don't own in any other way that they rent some rooms in that area, everyone else has the right to live there too.
There's no reason of expelling someone from a small area if they aren't doing anything against the law.
Do you seriously mean someone should be allowed to claim territory just becuase they rent something nearby??
If this was legal, Norway would be somalian property years ago, considering they could claim any area because they have an appartment there.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17671076]I'd move there just to chill with Varg Vikerines/Count Grishnok and to say hi to [b] all the guys from Mayhem. [/b][/QUOTE]
:smug: even per?
And hell yeah i want to go to norway, would be pretty cool to live there, and sure i wouldnt mind joining in on a church burning or tow.
Oslo represent.
[QUOTE=ole johan;17675343]I'm not in any way saying they should be removed, sure, let them stay, but they can't just claim areas they don't own in any other way that they rent some rooms in that area, everyone else has the right to live there too.
There's no reason of expelling someone from a small area if they aren't doing anything against the law.
Do you seriously mean someone should be allowed to claim territory just becuase they rent something nearby??
If this was legal, Norway would be somalian property years ago, considering they could claim any area because they have an appartment there.[/QUOTE]
No, stop fucking strawmanning me and putting words in my mouth.
If somebody [u]owns[/u] a piece of land, that land is their sovereign territory, unless they signed a contract saying otherwise. If Somalians want to move to what we call Norway or Greenland and claim unused land as their own, they should be able to do so. If they can buy land, they should be able to do so. Your property is yours, anything but that is chaos, and that's what we see today.
[QUOTE=bravehat;17675417]:smug: even per?
And hell yeah i want to go to norway, would be pretty cool to live there, and sure i wouldnt mind joining in on a church burning or tow.[/QUOTE]
You can burn churches anywhere.
In fact, someone outside of Winnipeg burned one down and said they did it to honor Varg.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17675577]No, stop fucking strawmanning me and putting words in my mouth.
If somebody [u]owns[/u] a piece of land, that land is their sovereign territory, unless they signed a contract saying otherwise. If Somalians want to move to what we call Norway or Greenland and claim unused land as their own, they should be able to do so. If they can buy land, they should be able to do so. Your property is yours, anything but that is chaos, and that's what we see today.[/QUOTE]
They are immigrants in norway.
Greenland is a neighbourhood (again, not the country Greenland), and they are trying to 'claim' the area as theirs.
Everything there is owned land, there's nothing they own there.
They have APPARTMENTS there, they are renting everything.
I said nothing about them buying land, they are renting appartments, yet they are trying to claim the [b]area around[/b].
They can't buy land, as they don't have the money to do so in the first place, I haven't said they weren't allowed to buy things, or live where they could afford, but about claiming the area.
[b]It's not their property[/b], there's nothing they can claim legally, yet they are trying to do exactly that.
Norway is cool, but fucking Liechtenstein is better :smug:
Wish I lived there :saddowns:
I always wanted to move to Norway/Scandinavia, it looks like such a picturesque place.
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Norwegian power!
Discuss![/QUOTE]
im sorry but Switzerland is a shitload better
so is Finland (in terms of beauty, awesomeness and drinking)
also how is norway desirable, you don't have proper saunas
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[QUOTE=ole johan;17675655]They are immigrants in norway.
Greenland is a neighbourhood (again, not the country Greenland), and they are trying to 'claim' the area as theirs.
Everything there is owned land, there's nothing they own there.
They have APPARTMENTS there, they are renting everything.
I said nothing about them buying land, they are renting appartments, yet they are trying to claim the [b]area around[/b].
They can't buy land, as they don't have the money to do so in the first place, I haven't said they weren't allowed to buy things, or live where they could afford, but about claiming the area.
[b]It's not their property[/b], there's nothing they can claim legally, yet they are trying to do exactly that.[/QUOTE]
Did I say anything against that? And if we agreed all along, then why are you arguing with me? I made my point perfectly clear. I know that Eskill [i]did[/i] talk about expelling them from the country, as if Greenland was "his" territory. If they're renting an apartment and they're not conforming to the conditions they agreed to, then the landlord (and the rest of the neighbouring populace, if they wish to do so) are free to expel them from their private property. Their private property [i]is not[/i] Greenland. Therefore they should not be "sent back to where they came from" or "stopped from crossing the border" as Eskill said. That has been my point all along. I'm done debating this, unless you have something new to say.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;17674846]I like how, ironically, you seem to imply that [b]Greenland is YOUR territory.[/b] I also like how socialists want to expel people who "don't work" because they voted for the state extort them for their money and give them to "poor people" (IE people who don't work)... or maybe they didn't, in which case they should oppose the state anyway.[/QUOTE]
I never said it was [B]my[/B] territory, and since when did the muslims "own" Greenland?
NEVER, because they are assholes claiming more and more of our culture,properties and whatnot.
Though those who actually work and respect our culture, our nationality, is the ones i respect.
And you should know that most of the immigrants are criminal fuckheads, just leeching on us and we can't send them back because that goes against their human rights, even for murderes.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;17674852]England's hardly the greatest place in the world to live either right now ;) so I'm not scared off.[/QUOTE]
I love how whilst every other nationality in the world is saying "my country is the best yours sucks", Brits are the ones saying the UK sucks. Where is our national pride, is patriotism still such a dirty word? We can get over our guilt about our former empire by now, surely?
Threads about the superiority of one country over others are not a good idea as inevitably they will lead to flaming. Grats to Norway, though.
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