[QUOTE=zzzZZZZ;29456176]A lot of the stuff that's been posted here is far from mainstream, and the vast majority of it is good. Hip-hop's far from in a slump.[/QUOTE]
You have a point. Alot of the underground shit is still good, but I still believe hip hop isn't what it used to be. That's just me. Although when you have people saying that the best rappers out there today are Lil Wayne, Wiz Khalifa, and Drake, then you have a problem.
[QUOTE=Vex;29456145]It's too bad that Dre and Em went mainstream[/QUOTE]
Dr. Dre's been mainstream since 1988.
[QUOTE=zzzZZZZ;29435696]Am I the only one that really likes Mac?[/QUOTE]
Mac is the DON, Nikey's on my feet is his best tune though.
Dre is a fool
[QUOTE=zzzZZZZ;29454289]Is Mac technically talented? No. Are his lyrics amazing? No (although they aren't horrid either). But is his shit catchy? Unbelievably.
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If a rapper doesn't make his own beats then his sole purpose is to come up with good lyrics, so how can someone be good if their lyrics aren't good? If I wanted catchy I'd just listen to the radio.
I hate NWA.
There. I said it.
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[QUOTE=Soulbrother;29457146]If a rapper doesn't make his own beats then his sole purpose is to come up with good lyrics, so how can someone be good if their lyrics aren't good? If I wanted catchy I'd just listen to the radio.[/QUOTE]
Waka Flocka Flame is famous.
And Mac's lyrics are good. Not amazing, like Childish Gambino, but good nonetheless. Most importantly, his flow is good.
Britney Spears is famous
Miley Cyrus is famous
Justin Beiber is famous
What are you trying to say?
Tryna justify your shit-hop with real hip-hop heads ain't gonna work dude
I'm saying that lyrical ability isn't commercially beneficial, and Mac's not shying from the mainstream. So production quality and catchiness are the most important things.
[QUOTE=zzzZZZZ;29457325]I'm saying that lyrical ability isn't commercially beneficial, and Mac's not shying from the mainstream. So production quality and catchiness are the most important things.[/QUOTE]
That's cool, but that doesn't make him good, that makes him popular.
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Isn't Hip Hop amazing? Imagine your boss at any other job going "Well, you're not very good at what you do, but people like you so here's a raise."
[QUOTE=Soulbrother;29457493]That's cool, but that doesn't make him good, that makes him popular.
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Isn't Hip Hop amazing? Imagine your boss at any other job going "Well, you're not very good at what you do, but people like you so here's a raise."[/QUOTE]
Didn't say he was talented. Said I liked him.
And anyway, life is a popularity contest.
[QUOTE=zzzZZZZ;29457553]Didn't say he was talented. Said I liked him.
And anyway, life is a popularity contest.[/QUOTE]
High school is a popularity contest, not life.
[QUOTE=Soulbrother;29457580]High school is a popularity contest, not life.[/QUOTE]
Entirely false. But enough with the derailing on both of our parts, eh?
Backpedal
[QUOTE=Soulbrother;29457146]If a rapper doesn't make his own beats then his sole purpose is to come up with good lyrics, so how can someone be good if their lyrics aren't good? If I wanted catchy I'd just listen to the radio.[/QUOTE]
There's more things that matter in being a good rapper than just lyrics though, like cadence and charisma and even vocal tone (which isn't fair but what are you gonna do)
[QUOTE=-nesto-;29458654]Backpedal[/QUOTE]
Doesn't know what backpedal means.
educate yourself on what real hiphop sounds like
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkfdE576LM[/media]
This is interesting
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[QUOTE=TH89;29458963]There's more things that matter in being a good rapper than just lyrics though, like cadence and charisma and even vocal tone (which isn't fair but what are you gonna do)[/QUOTE]
Yeah these also matter but for me lyrics take precedence, as long as you're not entirely off the beat and all over the place. Plus, a rapper's voice and tone are going to be more or less the same on every song, so judging talent comes mostly from lyrics for me. Of course there are times when a beat or hook or vibe is so nice that the lyrics don't matter as much and you still feel the song. But, to me it's about the ideas and wordplay they're bringing to the table, not the voice they can't change.
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[QUOTE=-nesto-;29459246]educate yourself on what real hiphop sounds like
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkfdE576LM[/media][/QUOTE]
Stop with the "holier than thou" attitude. That's not going to make anyone want to listen to you, he likes what he likes, you like what you like.
no thanks
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sFxb60NyxU[/media]
Just found out about this guy, he's from my hometown too!
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[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mc3HyojMxLo[/URL]
Also fuck waka, fuck gucci (lemonade beat is the only thing good hes ever done) this is a funny video making fun of him with some pretty good raps too.
Short Bus Shawty
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[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=iFiPANvxfDg[/URL]
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Oh, and this.
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Ice Cube- It was a good day
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CPlF-IEkXQ[/media]
One of the best beats of all time.
This is pretty fire
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594ofaA4T0s[/media]
[QUOTE=TH89;29469124]This is pretty fire
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594ofaA4T0s[/media][/QUOTE]
wow, DR and DD, that's like a weird looking motherfucker convention
flocka~~
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdkeTetb0Y[/media]
Dooope
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THAT'S how you do that underground shit
[QUOTE=TH89;29471390][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdkeTetb0Y[/media]
Dooope
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THAT'S how you do that underground shit[/QUOTE]
WTF? Why haven't I heard this before?
[QUOTE=-nesto-;29459246]educate yourself on what real hiphop sounds like
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkfdE576LM[/media][/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. Simply because I like Mac Miller doesn't mean I don't know what other hip-hop is. Nor does it make him my favorite artist. You don't even make a point, you just cop a superior jackass attitude, and present (mostly) mediocre rap. Just because it's underground doesn't make it good, and most of what you post is super shitty and one-dimensional lyrically.
Oh, look, I can post golden age hip-hop too. And make it better, at that.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QclfgLigA4[/media]
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[QUOTE=Soulbrother;29459844]Yeah these also matter but for me lyrics take precedence, as long as you're not entirely off the beat and all over the place. Plus, a rapper's voice and tone are going to be more or less the same on every song, so judging talent comes mostly from lyrics for me. Of course there are times when a beat or hook or vibe is so nice that the lyrics don't matter as much and you still feel the song. But, to me it's about the ideas and wordplay they're bringing to the table, not the voice they can't change.
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I agree completely. It's just that Mac (or Mac's producers, more) is really good at making things easy to vibe to, so it plays to his strengths. He's good at one thing, and my favorite rappers tend to be the best of both worlds. For example:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxUQ07NXB4c&feature=related[/media]
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Also XV.
Zero Heroes is amazing.
Ain't nothin' wrong with Mac Miller.
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Also, you guys take "going mainstream," overboard.
Kendrick Lamar is a gee. I just started digging into his catalog. Some of his songs are deep, with punchy lines.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUqWCxFDkO0[/media]
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