Hilarious, banter-infused grime courtesy of Elro from January of this year.
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[editline]4th December 2011[/editline]
Might've posted that already, cant remember, soz if I have.
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;33566804]I kinda like his lyrics. I think his delivery is more what's fuckin him up.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure it's the lyrics. I've seen a lot of rappers where he is, honestly--he's got the mechanical part of it down, he knows how to fit the words to the beat and rhyme shit, and he does it well. But the words themselves don't have any lyrical, poetic quality. Examples:
"she stormed out the room in a pretty upset fashion"
"if we assume it does then how can we have progression"
"the public has perceptions of us, our love's turned to a weapon that just shoots down the negative comments, decisions that they want etc etc" <--this one in particular just reads like a really incoherent run-on sentence that the singer is barely able to put to a beat
They read like a dude's posts on his blog, not like a song. And that can be fine in certain circumstances, but from the beat, subject matter, and the video, it doesn't seem like "causal conversation" is the vibe he's going for. He also uses a lot of really corny cliches:
"anger was burning fervently, in the third degree"
"watching both sides fight like capulets and montagues"
I mean I don't want to rip dude apart cause it's a really personal song, but underneath the flashy video and nice production he's kind of a below-average lyricist.
Well yeah, you're right. It's hard to be original with lyrics these days though.
It's easier than THAT :v
I think back in the 90s when academic people started paying attention to rap and said stuff like "it makes use of similies, which is a poetic device" a bunch of Conscious Rappers kind of seized on that idea and started cramming as many similies into their lyrics as possible, regardless of context, to the point where just about any similie that isn't a really clever double entendre just sounds silly and played. The Young Money people gave it a little more shelf life by leaving out the "like a" part and turning it into hashtag raps, but that shit's got an even shorter shelf life.
I noticed that the more i got into older rap. It was fun at first but it's almost like MCs are expected to use similes these days. Most of it is just pop culture references or references to older hip-hop for nostalgia's sake
I like how classic east coast rap has more natural sounds like horns and strings, much better than today's dumb synths and beats.
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Producers still sample jazz, it's just not as prominent.
[QUOTE=timman;33576947]much better than today's dumb synths and beats.[/QUOTE]
Oh look it's this opinion again.
I think synths can be cool if they're done right. Poppy synthlines just end up sounding like club beats. Good for dancing but not really interesting.
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"Today's dumb synths." Have some [b]90's[/b] G-Funk.
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Synth elements can't really sound poppy alone, without context. It's really the style of the song that determines that. Some beats with synths:
Dilla
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Illmind
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Dre is a good producer but he shouldn't spit.
Why not?
As an MC he just isn't impressive in any regards and his flow is terrible
His flow is normal to me, nothing wrong with it. And I wouldn't expect lyrical wizardry from a gangsta rapper (the rapping is more about the lifestyle and storytelling).
[QUOTE=Pal13;33580346]And I wouldn't expect lyrical wizardry from a gangsta rapper (the rapping is more about the lifestyle and storytelling).[/QUOTE]
Ah nah not lyrically like that. You don't have to be a lyrical mastermind or expert writer to make a song sound good. Like Dre Day for example, his lines just pull that song down. Shoulda just had Snoop on it.
Are you listening to the clean version? :v:
Well, we just disagree, I think he's fine on it.
[QUOTE=Pal13;33580528]Are you listening to the clean version? :v:
Well, we just disagree, I think he's fine on it.[/QUOTE]
I mean he's not horrible, just very bland. As an MC he really doesn't have that certain "thing" that makes him stand out.
I do like him on this thou
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Ahah I died.
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Nigga what I say about ASAP??
what are some good rap/hip-hop albums from 2011?
i've got relax, hot sauce committee p2, take care, both of the weeknd's mixtapes, camp + EP, XXX, 13 chambers, watch the throne, premier, and digital lows
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;33602525]what are some good rap/hip-hop albums from 2011?
i've got relax, hot sauce committee p2, take care, both of the weeknd's mixtapes, camp + EP, XXX, 13 chambers, watch the throne, premier, and digital lows[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed cinemetropolis by the blue scholars
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;33602555]I enjoyed cinemetropolis by the blue scholars[/QUOTE]
pretty good so far, thanks
This shit is amazing, my interest in Detox is renewed.
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[QUOTE=mzathemind;33601859]Nigga what I say about ASAP??[/QUOTE]
I think the Southern influenced style is creative, but he needs more work.
Have any of you guys listened to Lakutis' mixtape? I actually saw him perform "Lakutis in the house" when I saw Das Racist a week ago. It's pretty good IMO.
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I would do anything for this to finally be released, and to hear their collab album
please soooon
[editline]9th December 2011[/editline]
kendrick especially killed it on that one
anyone a fan of MF's Special Herbs shit ?
[QUOTE=xsion;33647391]anyone a fan of MF's Special Herbs shit ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
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