Firearms X: Day 6,793; Nodak spud still on back order
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[QUOTE=dogmachines;40402999]Thanks for the responses guys. The wood condition is fine with me, like Trunk said it adds personal value when it wasn't acquired by poor maintenance but was a result of it being carried into battle. I'll have a chance to inspect it closer when I meet the seller, and hopefully it's nothing worse than a bit of rust or cosmoline.[/QUOTE]
I'd still push for getting a replacement stock for range time, if you intend to shoot it regularly; just to save it some added wear and tear.
On an unrelated note; I stopped by Bryansteins (now I remember why I never go there) to look for .380ACP ammo for my stepfather, and I browsed their guns they had. Should I save up to buy a 1941 Nugget with a 4x peepscope on it for $1,400, save up and build my AR-18 for 3-gun (around $1,200), or save up and buy both a 1940 Mauser 8mm ($500) and an 1898 Springfield/Krag-Jörgensen M1898 ($450)?
[QUOTE=mastoner20;40408255]I'd still push for getting a replacement stock for range time, if you intend to shoot it regularly; just to save it some added wear and tear.
On an unrelated note; I stopped by Bryansteins (now I remember why I never go there) to look for .380ACP ammo for my stepfather, and I browsed their guns they had. Should I save up to buy a 1941 Nugget with a 4x peepscope on it for $1,400, save up and build my AR-18 for 3-gun (around $1,200), or save up and buy both a 1940 Mauser 8mm ($500) and an 1898 Springfield/Krag-Jörgensen M1898 ($450)?[/QUOTE]
The mosin Nagant, was it an original PU scope one? those retail for like $5-600 a pop, 1,600 for one is outrageous. Unless it's a Finnish one with an original Fin scope, or signed by Vasily Zaitsev, I wouldn't touch it.
I don't know enough about nuggets to look for anything specific. All I took note of was the year and the PU scope. This store also wanted $30-$35 for a box of .380ACP (FMJ, box of 50), and $1k for a single-shot Sten knock-off as well as $900 for an M1-22. They are really hit or miss for what they want vs. what the market will allow them to sell for.
Does anyone have [url=http://www.collectorssource.com/german-artillery-luger-1918-dated-with-repro-holster.html]$3500[/url] lying around they can give me?
[QUOTE=mastoner20;40408925]I don't know enough about nuggets to look for anything specific. All I took note of was the year and the PU scope. This store also wanted $30-$35 for a box of .380ACP (FMJ, box of 50), and $1k for a single-shot Sten knock-off as well as $900 for an M1-22. They are really hit or miss for what they want vs. what the market will allow them to sell for.[/QUOTE]
if it's stock looked sexy as hell, it was probably a fin mosin.
Also Ruskiespai, [URL="http://www.strikehardgear.com/mosin-nagant-bandolier/"]I found this for you
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Quick question, will I wear out the springs on a rifle if I have it's bolt locked back for days or months at a time?
How well would a Kar98 be for hunting purposes? And are the bolts on those generally smooth? I've been playing Red Orchestra 2 alot and now I really want one.
Doubt it. I keep my .22 and shotguns like that when in a case traveling. (Granted, that's a bolt and a pump, so it may experience different wear than a semi-auto.) I also keep my .45 locked back, typically. I'm not allowed by my parents to keep a loaded magazine in the weapon while home with my siblings, so that's my way of being on target if the need arises quickly.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40410139]How well would a Kar98 be for hunting purposes? And are the bolts on those generally smooth? I've been playing Red Orchestra 2 alot and now I really want one.[/QUOTE]
The bolt on mine is fairly smooth, and a good Russian Capture shouldn't break the bank. I haven't taken it hunting, but the caliber isn't bad for it. Ammo availability could be an issue, but mine isn't a shooter so I haven't tried to get my hands on 8mm Mauser.
Whatever you do, don't sporterize it.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;40410320]The bolt on mine is fairly smooth, and a good Russian Capture shouldn't break the bank. I haven't taken it hunting, but the caliber isn't bad for it. Ammo availability could be an issue, but mine isn't a shooter so I haven't tried to get my hands on 8mm Mauser.
Whatever you do, don't sporterize it.[/QUOTE]
Didn't plan on sporterizing it, I want a classic Mauser K98. I'm gonna find one that is in nicer condition though, even though that'll cost me about $500 it's not bad for such a nice rifle.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40410139]How well would a Kar98 be for hunting purposes? And are the bolts on those generally smooth? I've been playing Red Orchestra 2 alot and now I really want one.[/QUOTE]
I always hear the mauser action is one of the smoothest around
[QUOTE=beanhead;40411007]I always hear the mauser action is one of the smoothest around[/QUOTE]
aren't a lot of modern bolt actions based off it?
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40410139]How well would a Kar98 be for hunting purposes? And are the bolts on those generally smooth? I've been playing Red Orchestra 2 alot and now I really want one.[/QUOTE]
I never even thought of that... I might just have to go pick that Mauser up after my paycheck this summer! Too bad it was the older style with the straight bolt release, so a scope would be a bitch on the eye-relief... :/
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[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40411033]aren't a lot of modern bolt actions based off it?[/QUOTE]
a LOOOT of bolt action rifles are based of the Mauser platform. If I recall correctly, the Springfield '03, '17 Enfield, and all the way up to the Remington 700 had direct, or near-direct elements of the action based off/around it.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;40411336]
a LOOOT of bolt action rifles are based of the Mauser platform. If I recall correctly, the Springfield '03, '17 Enfield, and all the way up to the [B]Remington 700[/b] had direct, or near-direct elements of the action based off/around it.[/QUOTE]
The first two yes, but for the bolded that's like saying a Glock is a near-direct copy of a 1911, no. However I know Winchester, Kimber, BSA, Parker-Hale, CZ, Husqvarna and Zastava rifles all to this day use (or used until they stopped making them) a Mauser-style action, and the only other WWII rifle I can think of to use a Mauser-style action would probably be the Arisaka.
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[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40410377]Didn't plan on sporterizing it, I want a classic Mauser K98. I'm gonna find one that is in nicer condition though, even though that'll cost me about $500 it's not bad for such a nice rifle.[/QUOTE]
Where the hell are you getting a German K98 for so damn cheap? Even the Russian Capture ones I've seen are over $600.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411618]The first two yes, but for the bolded that's like saying a Glock is a near-direct copy of a 1911, no. However I know Winchester, Kimber, BSA, Parker-Hale, CZ, Husqvarna and Zastava rifles all to this day use (or used until they stopped making them) a Mauser-style action, and the only other WWII rifle I can think of to use a Mauser-style action would probably be the Arisaka.
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Where the hell are you getting a German K98 for so damn cheap? Even the Russian Capture ones I've seen are over $600.[/QUOTE]
My apologies, obviously I was mistaken with the last one.
As for that being cheap; Bryansteins, one of our more expensive stores right now, wants $500 for a G98. Granted, not a Kar-length, but still the same rifle, for intents-and-purposes.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411618]The first two yes, but for the bolded that's like saying a Glock is a near-direct copy of a 1911, no. However I know Winchester, Kimber, BSA, Parker-Hale, CZ, Husqvarna and Zastava rifles all to this day use (or used until they stopped making them) a Mauser-style action, and the only other WWII rifle I can think of to use a Mauser-style action would probably be the Arisaka.
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Where the hell are you getting a German K98 for so damn cheap? Even the Russian Capture ones I've seen are over $600.[/QUOTE]
I was looking at gunbroker, saw some really nice K98's for $500 about a week ago.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40411744]I was looking at gunbroker, saw some really nice K98's for $500 about a week ago.[/QUOTE]
You lucky fuckers south of the border, your government gives you M1 Garands for cheap and people are selling Mausers at clearance prices.
I think I should go buy some SVTs to make myself feel better...
Yeah, we're pretty spoiled! Oh, and I figured out my mistake, Commie. I meant the Winchester 70, not the R700. Apologies.
Mmmmmmm, look at dat nazi gun.
[url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338393906#PIC[/url]
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[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411772]You lucky fuckers south of the border, your government gives you M1 Garands for cheap and people are selling Mausers at clearance prices.
I think I should go buy some SVTs to make myself feel better...[/QUOTE]
Be jelly
[QUOTE=mastoner20;40411796]Yeah, we're pretty spoiled! Oh, and I figured out my mistake, Commie. I meant the Winchester 70, not the R700. Apologies.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that one is, quite distinctly.
Funnily enough, modern Mausers (M03 and M12) don't use a traditional Mauser action, it actually looks a lot like the action on Browning rifles.
I for one, think the Browning action is sexy as hell, too, though. I love my Dad's A-bolt about as much as I love my 760. (Granted, I'm comparing a lefty bolt to a pump action, but hey; they're both -06s, atleast.)
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40411812]Mmmmmmm, look at dat nazi gun.
[url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338393906#PIC[/url]
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Be jelly[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/russian-svt40-semi-auto-rifle-and-880rd-case-prc-762x54r-surplus-ammo-combo-special-free-shi[/url]
All dat Russkie, with some Asian Invasion ammo.
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[QUOTE=mastoner20;40411867]I for one, thing the Browning action is sexy as hell, too, though. I love my Dad's A-bolt about as much as I love my 760. (Granted, I'm comparing a lefty bolt to a pump action, but hey; they're both -06s, atleast.)[/QUOTE]
I think the A-Bolt is rather chunky around the action, their bull-barrel models weigh a ton, and I think the way the magazine detaches is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. I much prefer the X-Bolt; it's cheaper, has a magazine that makes sense, it's slimmer, and it's lighter.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40411812]Mmmmmmm, look at dat nazi gun.
[url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338393906#PIC[/url]
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Be jelly[/QUOTE]
Don't buy Mitchell's, I hear nothing but terrible things about them.
bitches, please. 'Murica.
[url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=337551299[/url]
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[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411868]I think the A-Bolt is rather chunky around the action, their bull-barrel models weigh a ton, and I think the way the magazine detaches is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. I much prefer the X-Bolt; it's cheaper, has a magazine that makes sense, it's slimmer, and it's lighter.[/QUOTE]
I definitely concur about the mag release and the general magazine mechanism. But I love his bolt. It's really smooth and is weighted about perfectly for me.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40409746]Quick question, will I wear out the springs on a rifle if I have it's bolt locked back for days or months at a time?[/QUOTE]
That's not how springs work. They wear out from constant compression and decompression, not from staying compressed.
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[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411868][url]http://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/russian-svt40-semi-auto-rifle-and-880rd-case-prc-762x54r-surplus-ammo-combo-special-free-shi[/url]
All dat Russkie, with some Asian Invasion ammo.
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I think the A-Bolt is rather chunky around the action, their bull-barrel models weigh a ton, and I think the way the magazine detaches is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. I much prefer the X-Bolt; it's cheaper, has a magazine that makes sense, it's slimmer, and it's lighter.[/QUOTE]
A-Bolt's are definitely cheaper than X-Bolt's.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;40410377]Didn't plan on sporterizing it, I want a classic Mauser K98. I'm gonna find one that is in nicer condition though, even though that'll cost me about $500 it's not bad for such a nice rifle.[/QUOTE]
Found one that fits your bill, and it comes with ammo!
[url]http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/wts-wtt-rifles/205102-wts-wtt-russian-capture-mauser-k98-case-8mm-mauser-ammo.html[/url]
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40411868][url]http://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/russian-svt40-semi-auto-rifle-and-880rd-case-prc-762x54r-surplus-ammo-combo-special-free-shi[/url]
All dat Russkie, with some Asian Invasion ammo.[/QUOTE]
My biggest temptation to move to Canada, right there.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;40412904]Found one that fits your bill, and it comes with ammo!
[url]http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/wts-wtt-rifles/205102-wts-wtt-russian-capture-mauser-k98-case-8mm-mauser-ammo.html[/url][/QUOTE]
It is a nice gun, have to get a job first though. But I'm always seeing German 98's for around $500 on gunbroker, even a few nazi stamped ones. So I think all will be fine, thank you very much though.
[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;40412485]
A-Bolt's are definitely cheaper than X-Bolt's.[/QUOTE]
X-Bolt: [url]http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?fid=023B&cid=035&tid=201[/url]
A-Bolt: [url]http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?fid=001B&cid=035&tid=012[/url]
The A-Bolt is a good $100 more expensive, at least.
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