Well then, she's addicted to heroin - General

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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16002616]People really freak out way too much about heroin and opiates. I did heroin/cocaine for 2 years. I'm still alive. I'm still fine minus some [B]serious degrees of paranoia.[/B][/QUOTE] You aren't fine.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16002616]People really freak out way too much about heroin and opiates. I did heroin/cocaine for 2 years. I'm still alive. I'm still fine minus some serious degrees of paranoia. Growing up in the drug capital of Canada kind of sucks from time to time. If you're really worried about her, the best thing to do is just talk with her. Most people will stop doing them at some point when they find something real to care about. From my own experience, if you can make her like you, if you can help her out, she'll slow down, maybe not stop, but enough where it's not even a problem, and then she'll stop eventually. Slowly is the least painful way of going about it. Locking yourself in a room for 7 days to go cold turkey.. Well that sucks balls(I didn't do that, not far off.. but that's not me).[/QUOTE] She likes me a lot I'm sure of that but now I'm getting scared for her as each day passes she''s getting more and more angry with me when I try and tell her to stop and quit. Last time she shot up was about a week ago but she gets her opiate fix from oxycodone. I told her about when I used to binge out on pills and what the withdrawals are like and I told her she can't expect to always have her fix and she has to face reality eventually.

say if you love me stop doing drugs

maybe you are coming at her from a wrong agle. so she is getin angry. just leave her bee, she doesent want someone to control her. you got to let people be responsible for their own actions.

[QUOTE=Omnimancer;16002774]say if you love me stop doing drugs[/QUOTE] Dude now you're just setting him up for disappointment.

If you really like her, you wont stop trying to convince her to stop her dirty and destructive habits.

[QUOTE=markg06;16001202]Let her kill herself if she wants to do it.[/QUOTE] she's hawt though i'm thinking for the future - possible vids posted in the oify

[QUOTE=arimi;16002777]maybe you are coming at her from a wrong agle. so she is getin angry. just leave her bee, she doesent want someone to control her. you got to let people be responsible for their own actions.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing - he likes her and doesn't want her to [B]die[/B], so he wants advice on how to help her so that she doesn't [B]die[/B]. It's [I][U]really[/U][/I] simple, people.

[QUOTE=arimi;16002777]maybe you are coming at her from a wrong agle. so she is getin angry. just leave her bee, she doesent want someone to control her. you got to let people be responsible for their own actions.[/QUOTE] My mom took all the drugs she could until she was dead, my aunt is slowly killing herself now, I'm not going to stand by and watch this girl I love waste her life away. [QUOTE=Spartan8907;16002795]If you really like her, you wont stop trying to convince her.[/QUOTE] I do I've been telling her everyday for a week now we have a little talk, I feel very strongly for her.

She's like heroine system of a down[img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/emot-frogc00l.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=teh pirate;16002811]Here's the thing - he likes her and doesn't want her to [B]die[/B], so he wants advice on how to help her so that she doesn't [B]die[/B]. It's [I][U]really[/U][/I] simple, people.[/QUOTE] Tough shit. If she dies he can man up and deal with it. Y'all got quite the God complex, thinking it's your fuckin' job to save people from themselves.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;16002192]:smugissar: Seriously people, stop with the stupid replies. They're, well, stupid and unhelpful. Also, my emote + your avatar = game, set, and match.[/QUOTE] :dogout:

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;16002814]My mom took all the drugs she could until she was dead, my aunt is slowly killing herself now, I'm not going to stand by and watch this girl I love waste her life away.[/QUOTE] Prepare to be dumped.

[QUOTE=bl4h;16002151]Make her watch Requiem for a Dream... that would probably make her reconsider.[/QUOTE] That's the exact same thing I was going to suggest.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002828]Prepare to be dumped.[/QUOTE] Prepare for me to say please get the fuck out of my thread, I want some damn advice and you're just doing some shitty "OLOLOLOL IMA TROLLING DIS THREAD LOLOL"

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002821]Tough shit. If she dies he can man up and deal with it. Y'all got quite the God complex, thinking it's your fuckin' job to save people from themselves.[/QUOTE] Or maybe we've got the "humanity" complex and think it's our job to prevent other humans - particularly other humans that we're attached to - from dying (which, by the way, it is). Just because you're socially inferior doesn't mean you can expect everyone else to sit down and let their friends rot and die because they made a small mistake with big consequences if there's a damn thing they can do to help. Lankist, fuck off.

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;16002854]Prepare for me to say please get the fuck out of my thread, I want some damn advice and you'r just doing some shitty "OLOLOLOL IMA TROLLING DIS THREAD LOLOL"[/QUOTE] Yes because anyone who sees right through the god complex "Oh no I have the right to tell people how to live because I don't want them to do anything potentially detrimental to themselves and themselves only" is totally trolling. In essence you're looking for a circle jerk. Anyone who thinks I should let other people make their own decisions GET OUT TROLLS GAWD

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;16002738]She likes me a lot I'm sure of that but now I'm getting scared for her as each day passes she''s getting more and more angry with me when I try and tell her to stop and quit. Last time she shot up was about a week ago but she gets her opiate fix from oxycodone. I told her about when I used to binge out on pills and what the withdrawals are like and I told her she can't expect to always have her fix and she has to face reality eventually.[/QUOTE] Oxycodone is the worst drug to get off of. The withdrawls can kill you. They have killed people before. I've never done it more than a few times, so I can't speak from experience, but that's something that will have to slow down a loooot for her own good. Lanklist, I think this is one area you really are not cut out for. It isn't a "God" complex. It's caring for another human being, and caring enough to help. It's a rewarding process when you're done and you did it well, and otherwise, it's just a time sink. Albiet a worthy one for the amount of emotions and feelings surmised in it. If you'd ever had a situation with a lover, you'd know you'd do just about anything for that person, and talking to someone and trying to get them to stop something like this.. As a person with compassion, it's the least you can do.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;16002861]Or maybe we've got the "humanity" complex and think it's our job to prevent other humans - particularly other humans that we're attached to - from dying.[/quote] That's just downright selfishness. You said it right there, you're only doing it because it would make YOU feel bad if they died. It's all about YOU and what YOU want. FUCK what everyone else wants, YOU want everybody to be healthy and moral and all bundled up in a manner that fits within your narrow world view. You have no right or responsibility to force people to act in a manner you approve of. To do so demonstrates only a complete lack of empathy. [quote]Just because you're socially inferior doesn't mean you can expect everyone else to sit down and let their friends rot and die because they made a small mistake with big consequences if there's a damn thing they can do to help. Lankist, fuck off.[/QUOTE] Socially inferior? Please. You're all just pulling the same selfish act under the guise of compassion. It's fairly obvious you don't give a damn about the other person, else you'd let them be an individual rather than trying to make them an extension of yourself via influence and manipulation.

Lux Aeterna.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002936]That's just downright selfishness. You said it right there, you're only doing it because it would make YOU feel bad if they died. You have no right or responsibility to force people to act in a manner you approve of. Socially inferior? Please. You're all just pulling the same selfish act under the guise of compassion. It's fairly obvious you don't give a damn about the other person, else you'd let them be an individual rather than trying to make them an extension of yourself via influence and manipulation.[/QUOTE] I have no argument for this. Unfortunately, the selfishness of trying to get someone to stop doing drugs so you'll feel better is undeniable, but it also improves their life. Remember, many drugs, including heroin, are often started during bouts of depression, and the addiction is a powerful force.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002936]That's just downright selfishness. You said it right there, you're only doing it because it would make YOU feel bad if they died. It's all about YOU and what YOU want. FUCK what everyone else wants, YOU want everybody to be healthy and moral and all bundled up in a manner that fits within your narrow world view. You have no right or responsibility to force people to act in a manner you approve of. Socially inferior? Please. You're all just pulling the same selfish act under the guise of compassion. It's fairly obvious you don't give a damn about the other person, else you'd let them be an individual rather than trying to make them an extension of yourself via influence and manipulation.[/QUOTE] Or maybe I care about the person and I wouldn't mind if her decision wasn't going to [b]KILL[/b] her, I'd much rather kiss her than cry over her grave.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;16002989]Lux Aeterna.[/QUOTE] Requiem for a Dream will keep anyone off drugs.

Though tactless, heartless, and mean, Lankist's point IS kinda valid. It IS her body. You should tell her how you feel about it, make sure she knows what she's getting into, but other than that, it really IS her decision.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002936]That's just downright selfishness. You said it right there, you're only doing it because it would make YOU feel bad if they died. It's all about YOU and what YOU want. FUCK what everyone else wants, YOU want everybody to be healthy and moral and all bundled up in a manner that fits within your narrow world view. You have no right or responsibility to force people to act in a manner you approve of. To do so demonstrates only a complete lack of empathy. [/QUOTE] FYI every single thing anyone will ever do is about making themselves feel good.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16002911]Lanklist, I think this is one area you really are not cut out for. It isn't a "God" complex. It's caring for another human being, and caring enough to help. .[/QUOTE] No, it's caring about how you would feel if that other human being died. Don't pull this "I just want to help!" shit when other individuals are fully capable of helping themselves. [editline]04:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lmaoboat;16003033]FYI every single thing anyone will ever do is about making themselves feel good.[/QUOTE] Exactly. It's about damn time we dropped the facade.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16002936]That's just downright selfishness. You said it right there, you're only doing it because it would make YOU feel bad if they died. It's all about YOU and what YOU want. FUCK what everyone else wants, YOU want everybody to be healthy and moral and all bundled up in a manner that fits within your narrow world view. You have no right or responsibility to force people to act in a manner you approve of. To do so demonstrates only a complete lack of empathy. Socially inferior? Please. You're all just pulling the same selfish act under the guise of compassion. It's fairly obvious you don't give a damn about the other person, else you'd let them be an individual rather than trying to make them an extension of yourself via influence and manipulation.[/QUOTE] It's not entirely selfishness, but that is a part of it. It's much easier to trivialize it then it should be. It's because someone cares that they do that, the other person does matter. That's half of the deal. The other half is the selfish part, and that's human nature. Yeah, I'm fine to let anyone be whoever they want to be, but talking them into something they'll ultimatley be happier with.. that isn't wrong by any means.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;16003021]Requiem for a Dream will keep anyone off drugs.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty much fucked when it comes to drugs. Mostly because I don't want to lose my OPERATOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, but I'm also afraid of needles, and can't smoke because I want my lungs in pristine condition.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;16003005]I have no argument for this. Unfortunately, the selfishness of trying to get someone to stop doing drugs so you'll feel better is undeniable, but it also improves their life. Remember, many drugs, including heroin, are often started during bouts of depression, and the addiction is a powerful force.[/QUOTE] You don't know if it improves their life, you aren't them and you aren't psychic. It improves YOUR life because it makes you feel good when you THINK you've improved THEIR life.