[QUOTE=john_pelphre;17346396]I don't know if this have been theorized or not, but I though of something.
[img]http://imgkk.com/i/BhCpiC.png[/img]
This is a graph. This graph is special for one reason. It will continue for ever, but will never cross the Y-axis or X-axis. Ever. It goes on forever, but never contacts the axi's. It will go to the the smallest interval, but will never touch "0", Why?
Mathematically speaking, the reason this graph will never touch the axis is because is the graph of the equation (1/x). The reason it can never touch 0, is we have no clue what happens a number, such as 1, is divided 0 times. You also can have a square root of a negative number, because the answer becomes imaginary, but I digress.
The reason for this? Well, you can use graphs to show relation to things in real life, and I began to wonder. What happens if this graph is related to real life?
Now, lets use an example. Say you are walking to a destination one kilometer away. It takes 20 minutes to get there, average walking speed 3 Kilometer per hour, just as an example. . So, after 19 minutes, 30 seconds, your only about a meter away. So, you keep walking.
Your one decimeter away.
Continue.
Your a centimeter away.
Than, a millimeter. Pentameter. Hexameter. Septameter. Picometer. Nanometer.
You can continue forever, to the nth-meter. There is an infinite measure of how accurate, and you can continue forever. There is a infinte distance you can be.
From .01, to .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
Then how can you reach a destination, in anytime?
Well, people round everything to set amounts. Such as you wouldn't say 1000 meters, you most likely would say 1 kilo. Not 100 centi-seconds, but one second. Its weird, but if you think about it. You are always some distance from your destination, even if it is 1 x 10^24 meters, or a yoctometer, away.[/QUOTE]
This has been theorized before you were born -_-
The answer is you're wrong the reason is because you're a child, it's Litreally that simple.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17347785]To go any distance, you have to cross an infinite number of smaller distances, so how can you get anywhere at all?[/QUOTE]
I imagine there's some form of smallest finite space. Just as Planck proved how if you "divide" energy into infinitely smaller "chunks" the amount of chunks will hence get larger. However he also found that the smallest divisible amount of energy is that of one quanta, after that you can't divide the energy any longer because it's the smallest amount.
[QUOTE=Dottedline;17346669]GASPPP
then using your logic, (1/3)*3 is not 1, but .9999 repeating.
This is also saying that 1-(3/3) is not zero, but .0001 (with lots more zeros)[/QUOTE]
God I hate that thing about 1 not really being 1 but 0.9999999999~.
It's like saying everything, every little electron is missing an infinitely small piece.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17353634]I don't understand why the name "String theory" has caught on so well when it's clear that the "theory" has never been directly tested nor can it be in the near future.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that surprises me too. It's still a hypothesis.
It's a hypothesis, not a theory.
[QUOTE=mynames2long;17365253]God I hate that thing about 1 not really being 1 but 0.9999999999~.
It's like saying everything, every little electron is missing an infinitely small piece.[/QUOTE]
There is a mathematical proof, that [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? 1 = 0.\overline{9}[/img].
Set
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? A = 0.\overline{9}[/img]
Multiply by ten
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?10 A = 9.\overline{9}[/img]
Subtract A
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?10 A - A = 9A = 9.\overline{9} -0.\overline{9} = 9[/img]
Divide by 9
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?A =1 [/img]
This is NOT a trick, this is the mathematical proof of [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? 1 = 0.\overline{9}[/img].
[quote=avon;17367068]there is a mathematical prof, that [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? 1 = 0.\overline{9}[/img].
Set
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? A = 0.\overline{9}[/img]
multiplay by ten
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?10 a = 9.\overline{9}[/img]
subtract a
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?10 a - a = 9a = 9.\overline{9} -0.\overline{9} = 9[/img]
divide by 9
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?a =1 [/img]
this is not a trick, this is the mathematical proof of [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/? 1 = 0.\overline{9}[/img].[/quote]
what the fuck?
[QUOTE=sheyzok;17367102]what the fuck?[/QUOTE]
You read it right. .9999 repeating is equal to 1. It's because infinitely repeating fractions can't be properly displayed in decimal form.
So if you think about it, dividing by zero is possible. Anything divided by zero is infinite.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;17367314]You read it right. .9999 repeating is equal to 1. It's because infinitely repeating fractions can't be properly displayed in decimal form.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UziXxX;17367369]So if you think about it, dividing by zero is possible. Anything divided by zero is infinite.[/QUOTE]
No. Dividing by zero is not defined.
The problem lays in aproaching the division:
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?\lim_{x \rightarrow +0} \frac{1}{x} \rightarrow \infty[/img] (aproaching by positive values until you reach zero)
where
[img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?\lim_{x \rightarrow -0} \frac{1}{x} \rightarrow -\infty[/img] (aproaching by negative values until you reach zero)
In both cases, x approaches zero, while the division in the limies gives you different values.
Also: Dividing A/B results to C so C*B = A. Now take this vise versa: B*C = A, so C = A/B. If B = 0, then 0*C = 0 for every number. But "0/0" is not defined anywhere - Same as x/0, because you can't get "every number". You can only aproach a division by zero with the limes but never actually divide by zero, because it's undefined.
I'm sure someone has already poked this hole in your logic but...
...a destination is never a single point, a destination is an area, people say "meet me outside the cinema" not "meet me 0.000000000000000000000000000000002 nano meters away from the fifth tile in the floor"
Very interesting !
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[QUOTE=Clowns1;17369020]Very interesting !
<a href="http://scaryevilclowns.com/">scary clown</a>[/QUOTE]
ur pic failed
[QUOTE=samframpton;17368890]I'm sure someone has already poked this hole in your logic but...
...a destination is never a single point, a destination is an area, people say "meet me outside the cinema" not "meet me 0.000000000000000000000000000000002 nano meters away from the fifth tile in the floor"[/QUOTE]
A destination in 3D space is defined by 3 values for the coordinates, x,y and z. Assuming real numbers, his example is correct.
You are actually "wrong", because you try to "solve" his mathematical problem with "daily-life-knowledge", which is meant to fail. Your example is just blurry. There is space for interpretation (meet me in the USA is also a location then. But a very big).
end this thread before someone makes a hole in time!!!!!!!!!
OMGWTFBBQ!
"Mindfuck"... "Mind blown"... "My brain hurts"...
Imaginative capabilities of Facepunch leave me to Facepalm.
[QUOTE=Clowns1;17369020]Very interesting !
[url]http://www.scaryevilclowns.com[/url][/QUOTE]
oh you and ur clown fetish...
I wonder if I ever get an answer of .9 repeat if the machine grading my score will accept if I write 1..
You don't walk in fractions.
Hang on...
If space is infinite, then there must be infinite amounts of planets, but we know that only a finite amount of planets are inhabitable. A finite number divided by an infinite number always equals zero, so that means that... Life doesn't exist. If you're reading this, you're a statistical anomaly.
Wait, what?
[QUOTE=nullsquared;17373683]You don't walk in fractions.[/QUOTE]
I take one step forward and two steps back.
Normally being the person who loves this kind of stuff, I just got to say that it's pretty obvious. A single point in space can seemingly never be exactly placed. Also, this shouldn't bother anyone with a mind-fuck sort of feeling. Life is life.
Valient Thorr has a song named after this: Valient Thorr - Total Universe Man - Intermission: Thesis of Infinite Measure.
[quote=Actual Lyrics]
mindnumbflesh waiting on homecell and lost loves found dealin with scabs
and no one ever lives signin papers and bells are fillin the sky with the schemes from the temperature rises and bats say wondering claps of dying basalt origins touching waving corner of the eyes
blind star legions hiding in cauldrons loving girls.
no. no man, play number 11, play that number 11…. yeeeah.haha.
the scanners are turned off and i got thirty or forty more minutes. relationships in real life are SO hard to handle with friendly friends touching breathing my way sultering on my wavelength. is my phone ringing? old gods dying under shades of anti-gravity we come from the water, we came from the air. pray for good tidings was a thought that kept repeating, but no one could ever find out said they, when will we wake up, and swim into the sounds?
swim into the sounds x5
[/quote]
Listen to a sample here: [url]http://www.amazon.com/Intermission-Thesis-Of-Infinite-Measure/dp/B002PF4S7E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1253322611&sr=8-1[/url]
Just one of their filler songs, really. You've probably heard of them, too. They were in NFS: Carbon, Skate 1, and Guitar Hero 2. Valient Himself is fucked up, in a good way.
[IMG]http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx358/zerstorer23/valientthorr_1.jpg[/IMG]
0.99999999999999999... = 1
:smug:
Edit:
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17373431]I wonder if I ever get an answer of .9 repeat if the machine grading my score will accept if I write 1..[/QUOTE]
Damnit, I thought I was clever.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17373431]I wonder if I ever get an answer of .9 repeat if the machine grading my score will accept if I write 1..[/QUOTE]
I should certainly hope so because they're the same.
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;17373747]Hang on...
If space is infinite, then there must be infinite amounts of planets, but we know that only a finite amount of planets are inhabitable. A finite number divided by an infinite number always equals zero, so that means that... Life doesn't exist. If you're reading this, you're a statistical anomaly.
Wait, what?[/QUOTE]
Space is not infinite.
Rated OP dumb, he/she needs to learn basic physics.
[QUOTE=nullsquared;17373683]You don't walk in fractions.[/QUOTE]
The issue is that you don't work with travel distances in multiplications or divisions. You're always adding or subtracting distance so that's why you're able to reach your destination.
Infinite series and even unbounded integration are nothing new or unsolvable, jeez. 1 + .5 + .25 + .125 + ... + 1 / n for n = +inf is just equal to 2. Nothing infinite about 2.
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