• The things people endured in World War 2.
    114 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Neinman;24042163]Whats really fucked up is your avatar[/QUOTE] Of course, no amount of vivisection and misplaced horse urine can amount to the horrors of Lil Cal.
[QUOTE=David29;24039797]Conditions in the trenches weren't fun, but they were a lot better than the ones you found in WWI. As I said, trenches in WWII were mostly temporary, and thus weren't vermin-infested quagmires.[/quote] This thread is discussing WWII, not WWI. Also, like you said, trenches in WWII were temporary, but they still existed in the time period that is being discussed here, and people had to endure the existent troubles in the existent trenches. [quote]Of course there were worse situations, but you can't discount one situation just because it is 'popular'.[/quote] My opinion is that it doesn't deserve the mass amounts of attention it gets. Also, I can discount one situation because i am free to do so. [quote]You missed my point. You made it sound like all soldiers had it bad - I was purely pointing out that it wasn't always so.[/QUOTE] Again, this thread is discussing what they endured, not who got it better than the others. I understand that not everyone had it bad, but we are here to talk about the ones who did.
[QUOTE=Mokkan13;24033818]Interesting read. I think the worst way to die in WW2 would have been the mustard gas.[/QUOTE] Mustard gas...wasn't mustard gas like, banned or some shit after WW1? Unless you're talking about executions or something. I don't even think it was used in WW2
Rape of Nanking. Enough said.
[QUOTE=Donutsalad;24042727]Mustard gas...wasn't mustard gas like, banned or some shit after WW1? Unless you're talking about executions or something. I don't even think it was used in WW2[/QUOTE] Nope, it was used by a number of powers in the interwar and WW2 eras even though there were ineffective measures like the 1925 Geneva Protocol. The Italians used them against the Ethiopians while the Japanese used them against the KMT in the Second Sino-Japanese War.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;24042998]Nope, it was used by a number of powers in the interwar and WW2 eras even though there were ineffective measures like the 1925 Geneva Protocol. The Italians used them against the Ethiopians while the Japanese used them against the KMT in the Second Sino-Japanese War.[/QUOTE] I'm flaberGASted, It would seem...I was MUSTstaken. AAAAAaaaahhhhhh
[QUOTE=O'10er;24034354]Getting into the hands of these crazy motherfuckers would be the worst way to go: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731[/url] Google image 'Unit 731' with no filter if you dare[/QUOTE] I just did but there all in black and white so it's not that bad well bad as in to look at
[QUOTE=3picFail;24042523]This thread is discussing WWII, not WWI. Also, like you said, trenches in WWII were temporary, but they still existed in the time period that is being discussed here, and people had to endure the existent troubles in the existent trenches.[/quote] Once again, you missed the point. Besides, even though this thread is about WWII - which I [b]was[/b] talking about - it doesn't mean I can't make comparisons with another war. [QUOTE=3picFail;24042523]My opinion is that it doesn't deserve the mass amounts of attention it gets. Also, I can discount one situation because i am free to do so.[/quote] Opinions are fine, but you are distorting things. Your original statement was that Anne Frank wasn't an example of someone who had to go into hiding and live in poor conditions. I don't care about whether or not you think she should deserve the attention she got - I was simply arguing the fact that she [b]is[/b] an example of someone who suffered. [QUOTE=3picFail;24042523]Again, this thread is discussing what they endured, not who got it better than the others. I understand that not everyone had it bad, but we are here to talk about the ones who did.[/QUOTE] And once again, for some reason, you are trying to prevent me from drawing comparison. I'm all for staying on topic, but you are essentially saying that I cannot disagree with or comment on anything you have said.
Finnish Soldiers during Winter War at Mannerheim Line had to shovel the entrenchements on a daily basis because of the literally nonstop artillery bombardment, which only for the russian attacks. Their uniforms and clothes kept getting ripped apart due to the incredible amount of shrapnel in the air and on the ground. It didn't compare to the [B]Hellfire of Taipaleenriver[/B], you can probaly guess already how things went there. Towards the end of the Winter War, russians were all fucking pissed off about how they fail time after time after time after time after time again to break throught the stubborn finnish lines, so they flipped the "Fuck it" switch on, and [B]attacked the lines with everything they got.[/B] This time instead of keeping pauses between waves and bombing the lines with artillery, they just kept sending more and more men and tanks. It was a true hell on earth. The finnish defenders suffered horrible casualties (because of having to stand up and shoot the nonstop human waves while the russian tanks were free to shoot for all their hearts desire without fear of AT weapons), and had to eventually send truck drivers, pioneers and supply companies to the frontlines. Eventually, the russians captured a section of the lines, but never got further. This is what the area looked like at the lines, it used to be a thick forest [img]http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/ohjelmat/talvisota/talvisota_paiva_paivalta/873438.jpg[/img] There is a reason for a saying "all the heroes of Taipaleenriver are dead"
[QUOTE=Black-Ice;24034157]Or he means the gas chambers used in the Concentration camps, but I don't think they were using mustard gas...[/QUOTE] Gas Chambers usually used Carbon Monoxide or Zyklon B. :science:
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;24039745]The occupied Japanese had it really tough at first too. There were mass rapes on scales that dwarf Berlin. Most of which were organized. I recall reading a story where American GI's cut the phone and power to a hospital and systematically went room to room raping women young and old and executing witnesses.[/QUOTE] Tough? Just one word, Nanjing. To this day, every Japanese still refuses to talk about it, and most try to remove that incident from history. Thousands of hundreds of civilians raped and murdered ( Usually one thing lead to the other ). The Japanese NCOs went fucking ballistic, two went on a headhunting contest to see how many Chinese civilians they could behead, and began killing the women they gangraped by impaling them through their vaginas. And to this day, the Japanese government does not fully recognize that they actually did anything wrong. Not to count what they did in Korea and all other occupied territories. It always gets me when the Japanese claim that they had a tough time, even after the nukes were dropped, because the Imperial Army did some simply atrocious things. You don't see any Germans still mourning the siege of Berlin, and very few ignore that the Holocaust took place there.
what are you talking about this is nothing i once had a bag of doritos and no salsa
I think that comparing Japanese to Nazis is pointless, nazis were all about ideology; purge the jews, and maybe russians, too. Europeans generally don't have cultural fuck-ups like the asian countries do, so what the nazis did was round up the people, and put a bullet on everyone's head, a quick, merciful death, and that's all there's to it. And most of the time, the excecutors felt bad about it, and many even suffered trauma from it and committed suicide. That is why the gas-chambers were invented, so that they would spare their soldiers the physical problems (not the only reason of course).
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1mz0QP2Qug&feature=related[/media] Thread music.
[QUOTE=FuhFuhFresh;24034210]I think the worst would be if you were a German civilian circa 1945, you have a bunch of pissed of and ruthless Red Army soldiers looking to fucking destroy your city, all because the leader you didn't elect told the soldiers who may or may not have actually wanted to be soldiers to invade Mother Russia.[/QUOTE] Because nothing like that happened for few years straight for civilians across Russia, not to mention that they weren't even indirectly responsible for the war. Germany had, according to wiki had from 700,000 to 2,284,000 civilian deaths. SSSR had from 12,254,000 to 14,154,000 civilian deaths. If somebody doesn't have right to bitch about SSSR murdering their civil people, it's Germany.
[QUOTE=David29;24043444]Once again, you missed the point. Besides, even though this thread is about WWII - which I [b]was[/b] talking about - it doesn't mean I can't make comparisons with another war.[/quote] No, it doesn't mean that you can't make comparisons, but I'm simply stating that like, the the OP said, this is about the suffering of world war two, specifically posting sad moment's, etc. op original statement: [quote]Also, you can post your sad war moments and pictures :)[/quote] [quote]Opinions are fine, but you are distorting things. Your original statement was that Anne Frank wasn't an example of someone who had to go into hiding and live in poor conditions. I don't care about whether or not you think she should deserve the attention she got - I was simply arguing the fact that she [b]is[/b] an example of someone who suffered.[/quote] not sure why i put that, i think i meant to say that it wasn't a great example of it. my opinion still stands though. [quote]And once again, for some reason, you are trying to prevent me from drawing comparison. I'm all for staying on topic, but you are [b]essentially[/b] saying that I cannot disagree with or comment on anything you have said.[/QUOTE] You seem to be countering my comments by saying that compared [this], it's not as bad as [that], and i was stating that this thread is WWII oriented. Now, you're accusing me of saying that you cannot disagree with any of my comments? The word [b]essentially[/b] is a word used to say that is how you interpreted what i said, although i never directly said or meant to say that you cannot disagree. In fact, the whole point of an argument is to disagree with the opposite party. [b]Content[/b] [img]http://giovanniworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/pope_v18.gif[/img] [b]This did not happen to Ann Frank[/b]
[QUOTE=lolzone;24046071]what are you talking about this is nothing i once had a bag of doritos and no salsa[/QUOTE] omg ur so funneh /Sarcasm.
Rape of Nanking was a real example of the sickness of the Japanese military
[QUOTE=Big Bang;24046022]Tough? Just one word, Nanjing. To this day, every Japanese still refuses to talk about it, and most try to remove that incident from history. Thousands of hundreds of civilians raped and murdered ( Usually one thing lead to the other ). The Japanese NCOs went fucking ballistic, two went on a headhunting contest to see how many Chinese civilians they could behead, and began killing the women they gangraped by impaling them through their vaginas. And to this day, the Japanese government does not fully recognize that they actually did anything wrong.[/QUOTE] What's even worse is that the Japanese have the nerve to actually complain about the US "not offering an apology" for nuking them while my grand-relatives that lived on the mainland and Hong Kong during the war still await for a Japanese apology.
I think the worst way to die is WW2 was via the bear jew
I love hearing war stories from my grandfather. It fills him with such pride to know that he was at those major battles in WW2 and helped to defeat the Nazis.
[QUOTE=Anastatius;24048560]I love hearing war stories from my grandfather. It fills him with such pride to know that he was at those major battles in WW2 and helped to defeat the Nazis.[/QUOTE] Same, he's very happy to have people that want to hear his stories.
[QUOTE=3picFail;24046464] [b]Content[/b] [img]http://giovanniworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/pope_v18.gif[/img] [b]This did not happen to Ann Frank[/b][/QUOTE] But do you think they suffered any less?
[QUOTE=David29;24050462]But do you think they suffered any less?[/QUOTE] She suffered a lot, but i'd rather be her than someone in a death camp.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;24050534]She suffered a lot, but i'd rather be her than someone in a death camp.[/QUOTE] The difference between two different levels of hell don't matter if you're still in hell.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;24050534]She suffered a lot, but i'd rather be her than someone in a death camp.[/QUOTE] Anne Frank starved to death in a death camp,
[QUOTE=Mokkan13;24033818]Interesting read. I think the worst way to die in WW2 would have been the mustard gas.[/QUOTE] That was WWI. [editline]02:26AM[/editline] [QUOTE=evilweazel;24050534]She suffered a lot, but i'd rather be her than someone in a death camp.[/QUOTE] She died in a death camp of disease.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;24050534]She suffered a lot, but i'd rather be her than someone in a death camp.[/QUOTE] Despite the fact that she died in a concentration camp.
I love how everyone is claiming American's did not one thing wrong.
[QUOTE=bostonriot;24053078]I love how everyone is claiming American's did not one thing wrong.[/QUOTE] Hey smart one. Where are the claims?
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.