• Should euthanasia be legal?
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[QUOTE=johan_sm;30198516]Depression is an illness. It fogs your mind and the only thing you see as a viable exit is suicide. It's the same when you're drunk or high or tired. Your mind gets fogged and you do stuff you normally wouldn't. Providing a depressed person with euthanasia or any other substance that will kill him should count as taking advantage of because the person can't think logically while depressed.[/QUOTE] Depression doesn't fog your mind or remove your ability to make rational decisions, it alters the reality that you base your rational decisions off of Have you even had clinical depression before
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;30179718]You'd need to factor in the whole 'Sanctity of life' argument and that god should be the one to decide.[/QUOTE] Secularism.
I think it should be allowed but there needs to be hurdles that need to be leapt over. For example, the doctor's consent should be required as well. It's pretty inconsiderate if you decide that you don't want to live after the doctor has put whatever amount of effort into keeping you alive only to have that voided.
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;30197640]Nope we could still be civilised but think for ourselves instead.[/quote] If you don't have laws, you don't have civilization. The minority of people without too much interest in morality will kill and rape and ravage and then ordinary people will have to turn to violence and betrayals to stay alive. [quote]Yeah you can but you might die trying, so... Is it really worth it?[/quote] I think there's a fair chance he'll succeed, he beats up twelve year olds all the time [quote]I laugh at the people who rated me dumb because I think for myself instead of letting the Government do it for me. If i want to do something I will do it regardless of what other people say, there is no right or wrong, there are only consequences to your actions.[/quote] Yeah, [i]you[/i] might not become a murdering raping thief without laws, but other people will and all of a sudden you've been murdered, raped, and all of your stuff has been stolen. If there were no laws odds are you would have never been born because your mother may have been destroyed by a murdering rapist thief. [quote]If something you want to do is illegal, think "should this be illegal?" and if you think it shouldn't then just be careful when you do it. Fuck what everybody else says.[/QUOTE] I do weed because I enjoy it and I think it should be legal. There's a difference between not obeying stupid laws (like segregation earlier on in America's history) and not obeying [i]any[/i] laws.
one thing that bugged the shit out of me was the fact Suicide is Illegal What the fuck are they going to do if you committed Suicide
[QUOTE=Zenpod;30201777]one thing that bugged the shit out of me was the fact Suicide is Illegal What the fuck are they going to do if you committed Suicide[/QUOTE] Why should it bug you if it will never affect you? (or anyone else, for that matter)
State-funded active euthanasia should be legal for those who have illnesses which cause constant and severe pains, if there is no cure for the illness. Otherwise, I think medication, therapy etc. should be used primarily.
Well, in case of very bad pain and illness that cannot be cured, yes, but that is already legal isn't it? If you're just really depressed or something then no.
[QUOTE=SomTervo;30185431] try to have a conversation with a dog you can't because they're slobbering morons who don't have thoughts ideas emotions or morals anywhere near the quality of that of a human. they're cute as shit but I'd rather every single dog in the world died if it meant saving just one person.[/QUOTE] lol cat person
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;30204588]Well, in case of very bad pain and illness that cannot be cured, yes, but that is already legal isn't it?[/QUOTE] No, it's not legal, at least not in Sweden. It's legal in some European countries (Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, possibly some more) though.
[QUOTE=Boom_Hedshot;30178911]Their debt falls on their next of kin, and whatever children or responsibilities they have are now in the hands of someone else. Those things have to be considered first.[/QUOTE] Not here it doesn't. Debt dies with you in scotland. [editline].[/editline] I see no reason for this not to be legalised, although it should be regulated. Two doctors should agree that Euthanasia is a viable choice of action; preferably with the patient's consent. If their consent it not possible, their power of attorney must agree.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;30204744]lol cat person[/QUOTE] nah, just a human person
I'd say euthanasia should only be applied to terminal illness and degenerative diseases where the person will essentially be sat paralysed for the rest of his life.
[QUOTE=Boom_Hedshot;30178981]You don't want to do die, you don't want to do anything, seeing as you aren't sentient for the duration of your coma.[/QUOTE] False. MRI brain activity studies and reports of actual long term coma patients have proven that full consciousnesses while in a coma is possible and happens more often than thought.
Yes Will never be legal though, stupid moral/religion based white America.
[QUOTE=Sabrina;30196309]I say fuck it. People should learn to die with dignity, regardless of pain. It only lasts for so long before it stops, you need to go and face it like a boss and show you're going to be a tougher motherfucker than what that disease/disorder/wound has ever seen. When I die, I'll accept no god damn painkillers, no euthanasia. That's how I've dealt with all injuries in my life. Just because one of them will be fatal won't change a damn thing. [sp]I'm going to get some boxes for this, I just know it.[/sp][/QUOTE] wow back the fuck off people this is one hardcore motherfucker i bet you don't know an atom of a shit about the pain we're talking about
I have a couple of not-so-nice family members that would very quickly throw another under the bus if they stood to gain a huge inheritance. This makes me apprehensive about giving others the power to end someone elses life prematurely. My own? Definitely.
live till i die, not gonna take the easy way out
If people wanna kill themselves, let them kill themselves.
[QUOTE=SomTervo;30185401]Because Dogs are fucking dogs, they are not even close to being on the same plane as humans.[/QUOTE] Hey, fuck you.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;30195165]To suggest that morality is universal can suggest that there is a god-like entity that sets the standard for morality.[/QUOTE] Humanity is that god-like entity.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;30186009]How do you know? Are you a dog?[/QUOTE] yeah
pussy way out.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;30214464]pussy way out.[/QUOTE] have you ever tried being in pain every single second of every single day? have you tried not to move for three hours? how about three years? ever tried knowing you will soon die slowly and without dignity, bedridden and alone? No? Try it then tell us if it's still the pussy way out.
[QUOTE=Helix Alioth;30214170]Humanity is that god-like entity.[/QUOTE] Are you an objectivist by any chance
[QUOTE=SomTervo;30185431]They're cute as shit but I'd rather every single dog in the world died if it meant saving just one person.[/QUOTE] Username aside, that's still incredibly fucking stupid.
I think euthanasia should be legal. I'm sure if you ask anyone who suffers from a very painful disease like cancer, they'd rather die painlessly and quietly then in agony over the course of many years. It should be their decision to make, which means they should explain the decision to their family/friends/whoever looks after them before it gets so bad that their judgement would be called into question, kind've like how they decide whether or not to be pulled of life support in the event that they need it to live.
It actually is legal by law in The Netherlands. It's how it should be, every person has decisions to make. If this is yours, sad nonetheless, it should be allowed.
[QUOTE=MegaErathia;30215589]It actually is legal by law in The Netherlands. It's how it should be, every person has decisions to make. If this is yours, sad nonetheless, it should be allowed.[/QUOTE] If a person wants to kill them self and has no particular medical problem that is causing htem pain then they are probably being irrational , they are well within their right o kill themself but society should not be helping them do so,
Euthanasia should be legal. Unfortunately it opens up the prospect of legal suicide for people of other ages. not that I mind. But yeah, people offing themselves because their girl broke up with them or whatever is a thing we do not need.
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