• Mario is Unreal
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[QUOTE=FpShepard;48070377][img]http://i.imgur.com/pWeKTVt.jpg[/img] [img]https://copy.com/A4VaLeDKk1yu9AnP[/img] [I]next-gen[/I] And yeah, WiiU is obviously stronger than PS3 but that's not really a big feat considering how PS3 was released in 2006[/QUOTE] No AA hurts my eyes
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48070633]That's because it is...[/QUOTE] well thats p shit then
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;48071036]well thats p shit then[/QUOTE] The actual point is that it's Mario in basic Unreal, were you expecting it to be anything more?
[QUOTE=CreeplyTuna;48069045]Dude have you seen Bayonetta 2? That shits just as next-gen as Bloodborne, and I'm not hating on Bloodborne. Sure the WiiU isn't quite on the same level as the PS4, but definitely more powerful than the PS3.[/QUOTE] Bayonetta has a nice art style but saying it's next gen is just silly. As the above screenshots have shown it's far from "next gen".
[video]https://youtu.be/GLGMPLmgpv8[/video] Not as great as the UE4 demo like seen in OP but this also looks really sweet. But goddamn it Nintendo just had to Cease & Desist this...
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;48071252]Bayonetta has a nice art style but saying it's next gen is just silly. As the above screenshots have shown it's far from "next gen".[/QUOTE] I agree that Bayonetta isn't next gen but the notion that graphics entirely make a game next gen seems silly to me. Imo the WiiU is truly the best next gen console because it's the only one that offers more than simply a graphics upgrade, and it most certainly offers a graphics upgrade too.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48071305]I agree that Bayonetta isn't next gen but the notion that graphics entirely make a game next gen seems silly to me. Imo the WiiU is truly the best next gen console because it's the only one that offers more than simply a graphics upgrade, and it most certainly offers a graphics upgrade too.[/QUOTE] It is actually exactly what makes it next gen, though. Well, not just graphical fidelity, but the hardware in general is what makes the generation.
[QUOTE=elowin;48071492]It is actually exactly what makes it next gen, though. Well, not justgraphical fidelity, but the hardware in general is what makes the generation.[/QUOTE] Next gen implies a boost in graphical fidelity but to me it's about something new, something fresh that doesn't have to be graphics. Look at Watchdogs for PS4: same old shit with prettylighting, tell me that's next gen.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48071602]Next gen implies a boost in graphical fidelity but to me it's about something new, something fresh that doesn't have to be graphics. Look at Watchdogs for PS4: same old shit with prettylighting, tell me that's next gen.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JcujYbctPk[/media] Graphic wise no, because it wasn't and Ubisoft pulled a bait and switch, although the E3 demo graphical fidelity was pretty next gen-y.
While this fight's going on, If they can get Mario into Unreal 4, imagine importing some Unreal 3 assets into the game. Imagine getting some Transformers in there with the Fall of Cybertron combat mechanics. Edit: It's just a thoughtful statement other than the Console War that's going on in this thread.
[QUOTE=elowin;48071492]It is actually exactly what makes it next gen, though. Well, not just graphical fidelity, but the hardware in general is what makes the generation.[/QUOTE] ehhhhh honestly its more about what's brought to the table. I mean really the 360/ps3 were a cut above their last versions due to their online capabilities
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;48071709]ehhhhh honestly its more about what's brought to the table. I mean really the 360/ps3 were a cut above their last versions due to their online capabilities[/QUOTE] Agreed, the thing about our next gen consoles is that they (besides the WiiU) offer nothing other than slight graphical improvements (and some UI and online service improvements that we honestly should be taking for granted). People are even arguing the WiiU offers nothing, if not the breath of fresh air that is Nintendo's amazing new games that fully utilize everything at their disposal then 60fps 1080p has to sell you.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48071926]Agreed, the thing about our next gen consoles is that they (besides the WiiU) offer nothing other than slight graphical improvements (and some UI and online service improvements that we honestly should be taking for granted). People are even arguing the WiiU offers nothing, if not the breath of fresh air that is Nintendo's amazing new games that fully utilize everything at their disposal then 60fps 1080p has to sell you.[/QUOTE] The thing is, the other consoles have third-party games. And anti-aliasing.
[QUOTE=gk99;48072020]The thing is, the other consoles have third-party games. And anti-aliasing.[/QUOTE] The thing is, the WiiU has local multiplayer. And playable framerates. I guess it comes down to personal preference, and I think I've made clear that personally I prefer the WiiU.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;48071260][video]https://youtu.be/GLGMPLmgpv8[/video] Not as great as the UE4 demo like seen in OP but this also looks really sweet. But goddamn it Nintendo just had to Cease & Desist this...[/QUOTE] The Unity Remake got taen down not this one
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48072065]The thing is, [B]the WiiU has local multiplayer.[/B] [B]And playable framerates.[/B] I guess it comes down to personal preference, and I think I've made clear that personally I prefer the WiiU.[/QUOTE] I don't get what you're implying here. Both PS4 and X1 support multiple controllers and both the PS4 and the X1 have far more 60fps titles than the Wii U [editline]28th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rossy167;48071926]Agreed, the thing about our next gen consoles is that they (besides the WiiU) offer nothing other than slight graphical improvements (and some UI and online service improvements that we honestly should be taking for granted). People are even arguing the WiiU offers nothing, if not the breath of fresh air that is Nintendo's amazing new games that fully utilize everything at their disposal then 60fps 1080p has to sell you.[/QUOTE] Tell me about a 1080p 60fps game that the Wii U has. Bonus points if it's in 3D Bonus points if it's not a HD remake of an old game [editline]o[/editline] Actually i think the Smash Wii U game might be 1080p and 60fps, but I'm not finding a solid confirmation of it.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48072140]I don't get what you're implying here. Both PS4 and X1 support multiple controllers and both the PS4 and the X1 have far more 60fps titles than the Wii U [editline]28th June 2015[/editline] Tell me about a 1080p 60fps game that the Wii U has. Bonus points if it's in 3D Bonus points if it's not a HD remake of an old game [editline]o[/editline] Actually i think the Smash Wii U game might be 1080p and 60fps, but I'm not finding a solid confirmation of it.[/QUOTE] All first party WiiU games are 1080p and 60fps and a fair few 3DS titles too, no PS4 and Xbone games are 60 and 1080. The PS4 and Xbone may support 4 player but barely games offer it, especially not at the quality Nintendo offers, outside of Nintendo local multiplayer is basically dead. Which is sad considering that's pretty much the only I use consoles.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;48071260][video]https://youtu.be/GLGMPLmgpv8[/video] Not as great as the UE4 demo like seen in OP but this also looks really sweet. But goddamn it Nintendo just had to Cease & Desist this...[/QUOTE] That's the same dev as in the OP, just a bit older.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48072205][B]All first party WiiU games are 1080p and 60fps[/B] [B]and a fair few 3DS titles too[/B], [B]no PS4 and Xbone games are 60 and 1080[/B]. The PS4 and Xbone may support 4 player but barely games offer it, especially not at the quality Nintendo offers, outside of Nintendo local multiplayer is basically dead. Which is sad considering that's pretty much the only I use consoles.[/QUOTE] Holy shit are you serious? How can you possibly be so massively wrong? That is seriously the wrongest sentence I've read in months. [img]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img] "All first party WiiU games are 1080p and 60fps" No, nope. Not at all. - New Super Mario Bros U is 720p - Mario Kart 8 is 720p - Nintendo Land is 720p - Splatoon is 720p - Pikmin 3 is 720p "And some 3Ds games too" The 3Ds doesn't even support 1080p resolutions, it has no 1080p titles. Are you trolling? "No games on PS4 and Xbone are 60 and 1080" Hello mister wrong! I have a terribly long list of how wrong you are. PS4 games that are 60fps and 1080p: - Blacklight Retribution - CoD: Advanced Warfare - CoD: Ghosts (Unstable framerate) - Diablo 3 - Dying Light - Fifa Soccer 14 - Fifa Soccer 15 - Killzone Shadow Fall (30 in single, 60 in multi) - Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes - Metro: Redux (Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light) - MLB 14: The Show - Minecraft (lmao) - Murdered: Soul Suspect - NBA 2k14 - Outlast - PvZ: Garden Warfare - Planetside 2 - Primal Carnage: Extinction - Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 - Project CARS - Resogun - Shadow Warrior - Skylanders: Swap Force - Sniper Elite 3 - Tearaway Unfolded - Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - Trials Fusion - Trine 2 - Uncharted 4 - Warframe - War Thunder - Wolfenstein: The New Order - WWE 2k15 And here's Xbone games that are 1080p and 60: - Diablo 3 - Dying Light - Fifa Soccer 14 - Fifa Soccer 15 - Forza Motorsport 5 - Halo: Spartan Assault - Minecraft - NBA 2k14 - Outlast - Project CARS - Skylanders: Swap Force - Sniper Elite 3 - WWE 2k15 And lastly, here's Wii U games that are 1080p and 60fps: - Super Smash Bros Wii U - Monster Hunter 3G HD - Rayman Legends Any questions?
Ah my bad, honest mistake, also when I said a few 3DS games I meant 60fps not 1080p, my bad for not distinguishing. Now you excuse me I'm going to crawl into a hole and die of feeling like a moron now.
Don't 3DS games have to run in 60fps just for the 3D gimmick, since when you turn on the 3D it renders everything twice and thus the framerate drops to 30.
[QUOTE=FpShepard;48072567]Don't 3DS games have to run in 60fps just for the 3D gimmick, since when you turn on the 3D it renders everything twice and thus the framerate drops to 30.[/QUOTE] When you activate the 3D mode it renders two in-game cameras, but each rendering half the resolution they did before. Which means in the end you're rendering the same amount of pixels. You don't need a high framerate to do the 3D either since it doesn't rely on active shutter glasses. (iirc it refreshes both eyes simultaneously) I'll have to read up more on this though.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48072594]When you activate the 3D mode it renders two in-game cameras, but each rendering half the resolution they did before. Which means in the end you're rendering the same amount of pixels. You don't need a high framerate to do the 3D either since it doesn't rely on active shutter glasses. (iirc it refreshes both eyes simultaneously) I'll have to read up more on this though.[/QUOTE] So that's what it is--I just thought they turned antialiasing off.
Nintendo always took gameplay over graphics to be honest, it's nothing new that Nintendo is short in the graphical department, it almost always was that way. To me though Nintendo puts heart in their games a lot more than the other consoles do nowadays. Sony used to be so good at it, but now they are kind of lacking. Microsoft seemed to have never cared. :v:
[QUOTE=paul simon;48072352] - CoD: Ghosts [/QUOTE] This one right here, delete this one. This shit is never at a stable 60fps and takes humongous dips every couple of seconds for NO REASON. It even does it on the PC and Xbone. Why the fuck it does it I don't know. Not a very good game even for multiplayer anyways so not like I care.
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;48074097]This one right here, delete this one. This shit is never at a stable 60fps and takes humongous dips every couple of seconds for NO REASON. It even does it on the PC and Xbone. Why the fuck it does it I don't know. Not a very good game even for multiplayer anyways so not like I care.[/QUOTE] Haha sure. I'm obviously unable to test all of these games to see whether or not they run with any sort of stability.
The Wii U may not be very powerful But it has [B]heart[/B]
[QUOTE=Eric95;48074980]The Wii U may not be very powerful But it has [B]heart[/B][/QUOTE] Wii [IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/IMG] U
[QUOTE=Eric95;48074980]The Wii U may not be very powerful But it has [B]Smash Bros[/B][/QUOTE] Fixed that post for you.
The quality of the games offered on a console is completely seperate from it's power. The Wii U is very weak compared to other next gen consoles, and thus games on it rarely would be considered next gen, even if some very good games have come out on it.
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