[QUOTE=confinedUser;35110432]Stop assuming I'm a moron, That's not the case not all my trips were bad but i tend to think a lot whether it is good or bad tends to my trip but i have anxiety so if something happens i go into instant panic attack and then its where this gets bad[/QUOTE]
I never said you were a moron, I said not involving you to prevent this exact post
[QUOTE=zach1193;35109340]I gotta be honest that I didn't get that from anywhere. and as arrogant as this may sound it's not meant to be, but I figure myself to be fairly intelligent, and I have anxiety that interferes with daily life so...
And obviously I'm not basing the whole statement on that one point, but just over my lifetime that's how I've seen things. Also think about it, if you have someone who will take anything and doesn't know the precautions or speculation about a drug, they won't know what to worry about so they can't really worry, but since the brain is so complicated especially with drug use, of course a drug can trigger anxiety in anyone but I'm stating that those of more intelligence (though intelligence is a relative term) are more likely to experience bad trips[/QUOTE]
Anyone has a chance of bad trip, regardless of a relative term you keep throwing around.
But then again I also find the though of not regarding yourself as the average absurd
[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;35110626]Acid contains speedy trip chemicals, thus producing a more "on-top" trip, while shrooms seems almost completely unadulterated, besides the usual euphoria. The reason why I get freaked out on shrooms a lot is due to the fact that I can be giggly and happy, but at the same time feel pretty frightened of absolutely nothing. Usually when I have a freaky moment on acid, I can either solve the thought obstruction within a minute, and come out with bliss, or if I find it too frightening, I simply turn it into something positive, feeling a but unfulfilled. I can spend five minute segments stuck on a frustrating thought on shrooms.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I dwell on bad things, that's why i have unpleasant experiences with shrooms. For me it's hard to get over some bad things. That's kinda why I smoke weed, to escape from all the negative.
I've never, ever had a single bad moment on acid. I just can't imagine it. Hell, I don't even see it as a drug, just an awesome learning experience and a great time.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35112013]Anyone has a chance of bad trip, regardless of a relative term you keep throwing around.
But then again I also find the though of not regarding yourself as the average absurd[/QUOTE]
You can believe whatever you like, those are my thoughts on the subject, you can choose to believe it or not.
and I don't know why you find it absurd that I feel myself more intelligent than others. I'm not directly insulting anyone yourself included
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;35084168]I think this guy has the wrong definition of DMT.[/QUOTE]
There are some toads that have 5-MeO-DMT in their secretions. The secretion is poisonous if eaten, and 5-MeO-DMT is like DMT but usually less visual.
You can buy 5-MeO DMT off of a lot of RC websites as well.
"The smoked 5-MeO-DMT experience is short, but generally incredibly intense. Onset is fast and furious, sometimes compared to being launched from a cannon. It is a fully engaging and enveloping experience of visions (actual visual effects less common) which varies greatly from one individual to the next. Users report profound changes in ontological perspective, experiencing the void, the shattering of the universe, frightening and overwhelming forces, complete shifts in perception and identity followed by an abrupt return to baseline. Because of the nature and intensity of the experience, users are almost always seated or lying down with someone nearby to take the pipe as the experience begins."
[QUOTE=Kanshi;35103150]You could be a god damn quantum physicist and you could still have a shitty scary trip.[/QUOTE]
Smart people worry more than naive people so yeah.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35105522]No offence(srsly)
But you really need to get rid of that title.[/QUOTE]I didn't buy it, and I'm not going to spend money to get rid of it, it's not THAT bad.
[QUOTE=zach1193;35115508]You can believe whatever you like, those are my thoughts on the subject, you can choose to believe it or not.
and I don't know why you find it absurd that I feel myself more intelligent than others. I'm not directly insulting anyone yourself included[/QUOTE]
I know mang, we're not arguing :) Just sharing my feels bro
Viewing yourself as more intelligent than others is an arrogant thing to do and kinda cunty. People often call me intelligent but I never feel more intelligent than others, most people are going to be better than you at something.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35119345]I know mang, we're not arguing :) Just sharing my feels bro[/QUOTE]
haha ok man, maybe we live in different countries where we have different mannerisms so sorry if I misinterpreted what you were going for. :D
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35103671]Didn't a quantum physicist university lecturer make a thread here similair to this one? I don't think he ever shared his experience here though[/QUOTE]
wow i remember that thread, that was when i first got on here damn.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
hmm, an argument about intelligence and people dont know how controversial the very definition of the word is.
I think if you guys are going to talk about smarts or intelligence, provide your own definition of it because even in the psychological/medical field what the word "intelligence" means is debated constantly among scientists.
You can have someone who is a fucking calculator and is going to be the best engineer the world has seen doesnt mean they have proper verbal, logical, or some other aspects of an IQ test (resulting in a low score or 'low intelligence'). Would an old man with an IQ score of 100 be less smart than a child that scored a 130, the old man knows more but the test claims the child has a higher intelligence.
My point is its not so clear cut, you can have dumb people who believe in superstitions and have really bad trips and 'smart' people who over think things and get worried if the smallest thing doesnt go right. I think it has to do with situational awareness more than anything and youre attitude/personality. If you are a total optimist and everything in the world brings a smile to your face then you [I]could[/I] be better off than a pessimist. With situational awareness, im talking about the sayings like "ignorance is bliss" oblivious people are happy and more aware people are sad. I havent done research on that topic, but im sure theres some experiments/surveys on it. Just a psych point of view.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;35120929]wow i remember that thread, that was when i first got on here damn.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
hmm, an argument about intelligence and people dont know how controversial the very definition of the word is.
I think if you guys are going to talk about smarts or intelligence, provide your own definition of it because even in the psychological/medical field what the word "intelligence" means is debated constantly among scientists.
You can have someone who is a fucking calculator and is going to be the best engineer the world has seen doesnt mean they have proper verbal, logical, or some other aspects of an IQ test (resulting in a low score or 'low intelligence'). Would an old man with an IQ score of 100 be less smart than a child that scored a 130, the old man knows more but the test claims the child has a higher intelligence.
My point is its not so clear cut, you can have dumb people who believe in superstitions and have really bad trips and 'smart' people who over think things and get worried if the smallest thing doesnt go right. I think it has to do with situational awareness more than anything and youre attitude/personality. If you are a total optimist and everything in the world brings a smile to your face then you [I]could[/I] be better off than a pessimist. With situational awareness, im talking about the sayings like "ignorance is bliss" oblivious people are happy and more aware people are sad. I havent done research on that topic, but im sure theres some experiments/surveys on it. Just a psych point of view.[/QUOTE]
I do not believe in an applicable way to measure intelligence because intelligence in it's own right is a human abstract that can't be quantified. To me intelligense is something you have to judge yourself, by being aware of the actions of others and either figure out why they do or say such, or learn it from them the best you can. I do not see the abbility to calculate mathematical equations in the head, clever use of linguistics or the abbility to apply logic to obstacles as markers of intelligense, to me those are personal attributes that can either be optained via genetics or environment.
To me intelligence is what you've done with what you've had, and noone but yourself truly knows that.
That is why that I find the idea of regarding yourself 'above average intelligence' absurd, because in my perspective that's a baseless claim that can only stem from arrogance. Because for all you know- You're the average.
Depends on the strength of the acid so be prepared, it probably isn't going to be anything like how you anticipate. My first go was some seriously strong stuff and it blew my mind on a level I was totally not expecting.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;35120929]wow i remember that thread, that was when i first got on here damn.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
hmm, an argument about intelligence and people dont know how controversial the very definition of the word is.
I think if you guys are going to talk about smarts or intelligence, provide your own definition of it because even in the psychological/medical field what the word "intelligence" means is debated constantly among scientists.
You can have someone who is a fucking calculator and is going to be the best engineer the world has seen doesnt mean they have proper verbal, logical, or some other aspects of an IQ test (resulting in a low score or 'low intelligence'). Would an old man with an IQ score of 100 be less smart than a child that scored a 130, the old man knows more but the test claims the child has a higher intelligence.
My point is its not so clear cut, you can have dumb people who believe in superstitions and have really bad trips and 'smart' people who over think things and get worried if the smallest thing doesnt go right. I think it has to do with situational awareness more than anything and youre attitude/personality. If you are a total optimist and everything in the world brings a smile to your face then you [I]could[/I] be better off than a pessimist. With situational awareness, im talking about the sayings like "ignorance is bliss" oblivious people are happy and more aware people are sad. I havent done research on that topic, but im sure theres some experiments/surveys on it. Just a psych point of view.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly (lol weed) I said something similar to this but much more simplified haha
EDIT: nope, but this is how I've always felt about intelligence as well, that it's not black and white
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35122250]I do not believe in an applicable way to measure intelligence because intelligence in it's own right is a human abstract that can't be quantified. To me intelligense is something you have to judge yourself, by being aware of the actions of others and either figure out why they do or say such, or learn it from them the best you can. I do not see the abbility to calculate mathematical equations in the head, clever use of linguistics or the abbility to apply logic to obstacles as markers of intelligense, to me those are personal attributes that can either be optained via genetics or environment.
To me intelligence is what you've done with what you've had, and noone but yourself truly knows that.
That is why that I find the idea of regarding yourself 'above average intelligence' absurd, because in my perspective that's a baseless claim that can only stem from arrogance. Because for all you know- You're the average.[/QUOTE]
Good claim, I suppose if you look at it that way, then you're right, I was being arrogant.
This is just a theory that I subscribe to. Anybody agree?
Most of us have been led to believe that we're either intelligent or not. The definitions of intelligence we learned at school are built are around what the school system values the most, verbal intelligence, logical and numerical intelligence, however, there have been research of up to ten and only a few are measured in an IQ test.
So "what are they?" you ask. Well here's the seven most accepted ones.
1. Verbal intelligence - Fairly self explanatory.
2. Logical/Numerical Intelligence - the ability to detect problems and investigate or solve them.
3. Emotional Intelligence - your ability to understand and detect feelings within others and understand and accept your own feelings
4. Body/Kinaesthetic Intelligence - ability to use your mind to coordinate your body.
5. Spatial intelligence - ability to understand and use space small or large.
6. Creative Intelligence - ability to construct and modify things
7. Spiritual Intelligence - ability to comprehend how we all correspond to each other and how we adapt to our purpose.
Everybody has a unique mixture, what's yours?
[QUOTE=zach1193;35115508]You can believe whatever you like, those are my thoughts on the subject, you can choose to believe it or not.
and I don't know why you find it absurd that I feel myself more intelligent than others. I'm not directly insulting anyone yourself included[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority[/url]
[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;35124614][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority[/url][/QUOTE]
Its also called the "better than average" effect in social psychology. When people are asked where they fall compared to the average (lets say college student) they will claim their quialities are either better or worse than the average. For example,
"so when it comes to respectfulness, where do you think you are?"
"oh, i think im a little more respectful than the average student"
"what about participation"
"i dont think i do all that much, i would say less than average"
and this will go on for every question. People rarely say 'average'.
Re-posting this in here from Drug Discussion Questions
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35122102]I'm getting a bunch of LSD today but I just found out that's it's going to be in sugar cubes that are covered in foil. The girl that I'm buying from said to put the sugar cube under my tongue like you would a tab and put the foil on my tongue. Does anyone know if this is the best way to use sugar cubes? Also this is my first time doing acid so any pointers aside from the obvious comfortable mindset and setting would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Does anybody in here have any experience with sugar cubes? I'm curious if they absord the lsd as well as blotter paper does.
Wouldn't put the foil in my mouth but yes, that is a very efficient(and tasty :D) way to ingest your LSD
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35126206]Re-posting this in here from Drug Discussion Questions
Does anybody in here have any experience with sugar cubes? I'm curious if they absord the lsd as well as blotter paper does.[/QUOTE]
Sugar cubes are sketchy as fuck. Make sure they aren't bunk, because a lot of people like to just buy domino sugar cubes and say they got L in them and sell them to people. If you can have her drop the L onto them in front of you.
[QUOTE=brianosaur;35127001]Sugar cubes are sketchy as fuck. Make sure they aren't bunk, because a lot of people like to just buy domino sugar cubes and say they got L in them and sell them to people. If you can have her drop the L onto them in front of you.[/QUOTE]
She's getting it through another that she's bought from before but I don't know if it was sugar cubes or tabs. Also I sell adderall to her regularly and so I doubt she would try to screw me over or lie about having good experiences buying from that good because she would have to find another nearby source for adderall which I know from experience is really hard to find. That's why I just stopped looked and managed to get a prescription myself.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
Also I know that there is no way to know their potentcy but should I take 1 or 2 hits for my first time? I've read a lot about lsd and I'm aware of the effects and I've also had a intense 4th plat trip on DXM but I also have G.A.D and panic attacks from time to time but I have a script of benzos for that if needed. Speaking of which is it a good idea to take benzos with lsd or will doing that generate a bad mindset that I should be worried?
[QUOTE=brianosaur;35127001]Sugar cubes are sketchy as fuck. Make sure they aren't bunk, because a lot of people like to just buy domino sugar cubes and say they got L in them and sell them to people. If you can have her drop the L onto them in front of you.[/QUOTE]
Same applies to paper blotters
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35127326]She's getting it through another that she's bought from before but I don't know if it was sugar cubes or tabs. Also I sell adderall to her regularly and so I doubt she would try to screw me over or lie about having good experiences buying from that good because she would have to find another nearby source for adderall which I know from experience is really hard to find. That's why I just stopped looked and managed to get a prescription myself.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
Also I know that there is no way to know their potentcy but should I take 1 or 2 hits for my first time? I've read a lot about lsd and I'm aware of the effects and I've also had a intense 4th plat trip on DXM but I also have G.A.D and panic attacks from time to time but I have a script of benzos for that if needed. Speaking of which is it a good idea to take benzos with lsd or will doing that generate a bad mindset that I should be worried?[/QUOTE]
Just go with the flow man. You're not going to have a bad time, just enjoy the feeling. The benzos are probably a good idea in case something goes wrong. I know people who had to take Ecstasy + LSD in order to have a good trip.
My first time I took one tab, and that gave me a good all around feeling of what I was getting myself into. Then I took two, then three, etc. Personally, I worked my way up.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35127393]Same applies to paper blotters[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but sugar cubes are more uncommon, and I just hear a lot of bad things about them mainly people getting ripped off cuz there's not 'cid in them. It's easier to just pick up sugar cubes at the store than paper blotter.
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35127326]She's getting it through another that she's bought from before but I don't know if it was sugar cubes or tabs. Also I sell adderall to her regularly and so I doubt she would try to screw me over or lie about having good experiences buying from that good because she would have to find another nearby source for adderall which I know from experience is really hard to find. That's why I just stopped looked and managed to get a prescription myself.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
Also I know that there is no way to know their potentcy but should I take 1 or 2 hits for my first time? I've read a lot about lsd and I'm aware of the effects and I've also had a intense 4th plat trip on DXM but I also have G.A.D and panic attacks from time to time but I have a script of benzos for that if needed. Speaking of which is it a good idea to take benzos with lsd or will doing that generate a bad mindset that I should be worried?[/QUOTE]
I ate two my first time and potentiated it quite a bit with a lot of weed, I didn't die from panic but I hear that you should atleast start with two if you want something out of your money and the 'full' experience.
Its always safest to start with one because you have no idea how strong it will be
[QUOTE=kaskade700;35127804]I ate too my first time and potentiated it quite a bit with a lot of weed, I didn't die from panic but I hear that you should atleast start with two if you want something out of your money and the 'full' experience.[/QUOTE]
Ok thanks. Also I've heard a lot of different opinions about whether mixing weed with acid is a good idea. I'm going to have some available and I'm wondering if I should mix them? Cause I heard that for some people it helped kick start the trips and for others it just turned things into a mess of paranoia and fear. I sometimes get panic attacks from smoking alone but if I take a benzo before hand then I'm usually fine. So would combining LSD, cannabis and klonopin be a good idea? And if so then at what point in the trip should I smoke? Cause I've done DXM a few times and I've only smoked during a DXM trip once and it ended up being my best and most hallucination producing trip. It was supposed to be a high 3rd plat by the dose but grapefruit juice, dph and smoking made it a 4th.
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35127950]Ok thanks. Also I've heard a lot of different opinions about whether mixing weed with acid is a good idea. I'm going to have some available and I'm wondering if I should mix them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Banana Bandit;35127950] I sometimes get panic attacks from smoking alone but if I take a benzo before hand then I'm usually fine.[/QUOTE]
fuck no, in my opinion
you're most likely gonna regret it if you do
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