Qatar 101 - A post made by a Qatari Woman on the 2022 win - General

[QUOTE=archie200034;26483643]Pointing out opression is bad now? And it is very much relevant, I believe a country with such laws shouldn't host the world cup.[/QUOTE] Pointing out that what you believe is oppression is not bad. It just has little to do with the worldcup. Why would a country with such laws shouldn't be allowed to host the world cup?

Guys, it's in 2022, not tomorrow. Enough with the "it needs to progress" bullshit.

[quote]Qatar is a rentier state which means that the government makes enough money out of oil and gas revenues to not need to tax the populace. So we have free housing (when we need it), free education, free healthcare and no taxes (so far)![/quote] sweet jesus

[QUOTE=rabidwulf92;26483666] and jesus christ they don't oppress anybody, it is a ISLAMIC country hence they will follow ISLAMIC beliefs, and homosexuality is FORBIDDEN in islam. They just deport the homosex if they're being pda'ing a-holes about it.[/QUOTE] Actually really recently Qatar's become a kinda cool on homosexuals. Seriously, they're out and around minding there own business. Just as long as they don't suck each others faces (Same applies to straight couples) nobody seems to care. Qatari custom - don't get intimate in public.

[QUOTE=rabidwulf92;26483666] and jesus christ they don't oppress anybody, it is a ISLAMIC country hence they will follow ISLAMIC beliefs, and homosexuality is FORBIDDEN in islam. They just deport the homosex if they're being pda'ing a-holes about it.[/QUOTE] So they're allowed to opress homosexuals because they're muslims? Makes perfect sense. [QUOTE=alt;26483704]Pointing out that what you believe is oppression is not bad. It just has little to do with the worldcup. Why would a country with such laws shouldn't be allowed to host the world cup?[/QUOTE] Because hosting the world cup is an honour this country does not deserve. There are options that are far more worthy. They don't just pick any random country you know.

[QUOTE=archie200034;26483768]So they're allowed to opress homosexuals because they're muslims? Makes perfect sense.[/QUOTE] point being they don't ACTIVELY do it. It's not just homosexuals they oppress, EVEN if you are a straight couple and you PDA you are at risk of being deported, it actually happened to two people I know. Really, it's PDA they're against. It's not like a fucking swat team will burst in through the windows when two dudes are getting it on till the break of dawn

[QUOTE=archie200034;26483768]So they're allowed to opress homosexuals because they're muslims? Makes perfect sense.[/QUOTE] no one is saying anyone is allowed to opress homosexuals He's saying that it's an islamic country. And homosexuality is not really accepted by the islam. Shit gets real only when the homosexual is getting intimate in public, because it's not allowed by the islam. But Qatar doesn't really mind

[QUOTE=rabidwulf92;26483800]point being they don't ACTIVELY do it. It's not just homosexuals they oppress, EVEN if you are a straight couple and you PDA you are at risk of being deported, it actually happened to two people I know.[/QUOTE] They put you in jail for 5 years for gay sex and call it sodomy and keeping homosexuals from expressing affection in public. That's opression based on your sexuality. So they are ACTIVELY opressing homosexuals. [QUOTE=alt;26483851]no one is saying anyone is allowed to opress homosexuals He's saying that it's an islamic country. And homosexuality is not really accepted by the islam. Shit gets real only when the homosexual is getting intimate in public, because it's not allowed by the islam. But Qatar doesn't really mind[/QUOTE] And I'm saying that Qatar can still be muslim and accept gay people. Just because it's muslim doesn't mean it needs to opress homosexuals.

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[QUOTE=archie200034;26483876]They put you in jail for 5 years for gay sex and call it sodomy and keeping homosexuals from expressing affection in public. That's opression based on your sexuality. So they are ACTIVELY opressing homosexuals. And I'm saying that Qatar can still be muslim and accept gay people. Just because it's muslim doesn't mean it needs to opress homosexuals.[/QUOTE] This point seems to be flying over your head. Yes that law exists, public displays of affection are not allowed both for homosexuals and straight couples. It doesn't matter if you're the perfect muslim couple, it's just the culture has a strict no tolerance of getting intimate in public areas no matter what your sexual orientation is. That's not oppression, it's custom. It's not targeting one single group of people, as a separate law will state the same for a straight couples in public. That aside, they won't jail you for 5 years - that I promise. They'll keep you for a few weeks at most then send you off to whatever country your passports from.

[QUOTE=Sokrates;26484029][img_thumb]http://img.imgland.net/VBsfivQOaA.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] that's afghanistan you twit [IMG]http://photos.longjaunt.com/2008/05/30/dohaordisney/014.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Samuelgames;26482183]Haha, that's awesome. Even more awesome with a [url=http://img2.blogabond.com/UserPhotos/4651/800/CIMG5405.jpg]Decent shot[/url] of it.[/QUOTE] Holy shit. I want to go there.

Archie, just shut up alright. You're acting like a fucking sensationalist self-righteous prick that keeps de-railing the thread. You keep going in circles with your arguments only to entice more flaming. If you want to spew all your ego out, go make your own thread and circle-jerk with yourself there about how everything you say is the only truth out there.

[QUOTE=archie200034;26483876]They put you in jail for 5 years for gay sex and call it sodomy and keeping homosexuals from expressing affection in public. That's opression based on your sexuality. So they are ACTIVELY opressing homosexuals. And I'm saying that Qatar can still be muslim and accept gay people. Just because it's muslim doesn't mean it needs to opress homosexuals.[/QUOTE] please stop [editline]4th December 2010[/editline] please

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;26483102]I don't get Facepunch. They hate a small, safe, Arab country. But go fucking in love with Wikileaks and their potentially war causing stuff.[/QUOTE] Because they are reasonable. [editline]4th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=DarkWolf2;26484950]Archie, just shut up alright. You're acting like a fucking sensationalist self-righteous prick that keeps de-railing the thread. You keep going in circles with your arguments only to entice more flaming. If you want to spew all your ego out, go make your own thread and circle-jerk with yourself there about how everything you say is the only truth out there.[/QUOTE] I agree, but relax, he'll run out of steam eventually.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;26482290]To be honest, I think the US and Qatar were just as qualified to host the World Cup as each other; but what really got to FIFA was the idea of unity in the Middle East. If football can help end a civil war in Iraq in 1997, who knows what can happen if we put an Arab and Israeli on the same field? I understand everyones frustration but everyone in Qatar is celebrating because this is a big deal for the Middle East; whereas Americas motives was literally: "We want more people to like the sport." - Australia were voted off first, and I'll admit their bid really wasn't all that great. I'm sure you can somehow see how Qatar deserves this a little more.[/QUOTE] I don't give a shit about the US, I am from the UK and it's all a fucking joke. Qatar shouldn't have gotten it, end of story.

[QUOTE=LUHG!;26485276]I don't give a shit about the US, I am from the UK and it's all a fucking joke. Qatar shouldn't have gotten it, end of story.[/QUOTE] above: worst argument itt

[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;26484950]Archie, just shut up alright. You're acting like a fucking sensationalist self-righteous prick that keeps de-railing the thread. You keep going in circles with your arguments only to entice more flaming. If you want to spew all your ego out, go make your own thread and circle-jerk with yourself there about how everything you say is the only truth out there.[/QUOTE] I'm not the one walsing into a thread claiming to have the authority to kick someone out and calling people names while being completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

I'm very sorry, but I'll will burst out laughing if the Qatar team doesn't qualify for world cup. :v:

[QUOTE=archie200034;26485324]I'm not the one walsing into a thread claiming to have the authority to kick someone out and calling people names while being completely unrelated to the topic at hand.[/QUOTE] Kids these days... they'll never learn.

[img]http://i56.tinypic.com/28mekxf.jpg[/img] [b]The badage boys are back in town?[/b]

[QUOTE=archie200034;26485324]I'm not the one walsing into a thread claiming to have the authority to kick someone out and calling people names while being completely unrelated to the topic at hand.[/QUOTE] Um... yes you are. As far as your argument for the oppression of homosexuals goes, it happens in any country you go to. The United States has entire church districts dedicated to the eradication of homosexuality.

[QUOTE=J0E_SpRaY;26485521]Um... yes you are. As far as your argument for the oppression of homosexuals goes, it happens in any country you go to. The United States has entire church districts dedicated to the eradication of homosexuality.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked you didn't get 5 years in prison for having gay sex in the US.

[QUOTE=archie200034;26485618]Last time I checked you didn't get 5 years in prison for having gay sex in the US.[/QUOTE] Don't think that most conservatives wouldn't want that in the U.S. Countries like the U.S. are basically just like countries like Qatar, except the U.S. is a little bit more developed. Believe it or not, there was a time that the U.S. was just like Qatar, except it wasn't Islamic values the U.S. was praising but Christian ones. Even though conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to keep those values intact, they are slowly developing out of it. The same is probably true for Qatar, except it is just a little less developed. Give it time. I mean, 11 years can change a lot of things.

[QUOTE=Fhenexx;26485775]Don't think that most conservatives wouldn't want that in the U.S. Countries like the U.S. are basically just like countries like Qatar, except the U.S. is a little bit more developed. Believe it or not, there was a time that the U.S. was just like Qatar, except it wasn't Islamic values the U.S. was praising but Christian ones. Even though conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to keep those values intact, they are slowly developing out of it. The same is probably true for Qatar, except it is just a little less developed. Give it time. I mean, 11 years can change a lot of things.[/QUOTE] Lets hope so

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;26485354]I'm very sorry, but I'll will burst out laughing if the Qatar team doesn't qualify for world cup. :v:[/QUOTE] Like South Africa... The host team automatically qualifies.

[QUOTE=Fhenexx;26485775]Don't think that most conservatives wouldn't want that in the U.S. Countries like the U.S. are basically just like countries like Qatar, except the U.S. is a little bit more developed. Believe it or not, there was a time that the U.S. was just like Qatar, except it wasn't Islamic values the U.S. was praising but Christian ones. Even though conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to keep those values intact, they are slowly developing out of it. The same is probably true for Qatar, except it is just a little less developed. Give it time. I mean, 11 years can change a lot of things.[/QUOTE] You're spot on, that's exactly what's happening [editline]4th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Ignhelper;26485354]I'm very sorry, but I'll will burst out laughing if the Qatar team doesn't qualify for world cup. :v:[/QUOTE] Hosting team automatically qualifies, doesn't matter to be honest. Qatar's national team has a lot of training set up for them to do well; but I still think they'll probably be eliminated in the first round. It's not about winning to us, it's that we're bringing in the world to look at the middle east through something other than horror stories of murders, terrorist attacks and death sentences put out by 1 or 2 extremist nations in the dozens of other countries in the region.

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;26483102]I don't get Facepunch. They hate a small, safe, Arab country. But go fucking in love with Wikileaks and their potentially war causing stuff.[/QUOTE] this

is it weird that when I saw this thread it made me think of Vault 101?

archie, your argument is pretty bad compared to the OP's