Has science really made us better off? - General

Pointless thread. Of course science has made us better off. Without science we would be in the stone ages.

[QUOTE=Limerick;17558363]Pointless thread. Of course science has made us better off. Without science we would be in the stone ages.[/QUOTE] there was science and technology in the stone ages

No need to be so literal. You understand what I'm saying.

We wouldn't need science if slaves did their job and made life of ordinary men a heaven. But slaves went rampant, and so we had to fight our way back to doing nothing through science.

That's medicine, OP said "apart from medicine". :smile:

There would be no need for slaves if there were no science. Humans would be extinct if there were no science. Anyway, plenty of medicine relies on other aspects of science, so the OP contradicts himself.

Of course you twit.

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;17541960]Besides medicine, do things like space travel, electricity, and cars really make our lives much better? couldn't we get along without it for thousands of years? I think that looking for extra terrestrial life is really the biggest waste of money ever. Do we really need to know if there are aliens on other planets? will it benefit us at all? with evolution (I believe in evolution) do we REALLY need to know how humans were created? is it REALLY that important?[/QUOTE] Do we really need to exist? Wouldn't the world move along without us? Of course it's made us better off.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17542012]He asks, via the internet.[/QUOTE] Ugh, another unenlightened one in the workings of the internet. It is a series of pneumatic tubes requiring only air. The ignorance here.. just baffles me. What is this non-sense on science and electricity?

Hey OP, does breathing make us better off? Do we really NEED air? Couldn't we just live without it?

A lot of people here seem to be offended.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;17552477]Light travels slower in glass and oxygen than it does in a vacuum.[/QUOTE] We've been over that further up on the page. I've done experiments with refraction and such, and yes, it appears to travel slower (sometimes it appears to travel a LOT slower, even half of the speed of light in a vacuum). However I think technically it travels at the same speed, just there's a lot of absorbing and remitting of light going on in that medium.

Posting in a troll thread. You're goddamn right we're better off. Working to make things better for ourselves sure as shit beats squandering the intelligence given to us by a one-in-a-billion twist of fate by spending our specie's whole existence scrounging for food in the jungle.

[QUOTE=Tentacle;17552195]In some cases, the science is the lesser of two evils. Take swine flu, for example. Why would scientists just sit around and let people suffer from it when they have the ability to (attempt to) manufacture a vaccine?[/QUOTE] We did make a vaccine you pillock. It's just that the leperous retards known as American housewives think that vaccines cause autism so nobody fucking gets it.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17562754]We did make a vaccine you pillock. It's just that the leperous retards known as American housewives think that vaccines cause autism so nobody fucking gets it.[/QUOTE] I think you're talking about the measles vaccine.

[QUOTE=Valnar;17562787]I think you're talking about the measles vaccine.[/QUOTE] Your average American housewife doesn't want any vaccines administered at all. cuz of socializm :tinfoil:

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;17541960]Besides medicine, [/QUOTE] VERY IMPORTANT OPENER YOU GOT THERE. Think about it. We couldn't have had all those advances in medicine without the advances in other fields, like genetics, which we couldn't do without modern microscopes- which we couldn't have without particle physics.

Obvious troll is obvious

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;17541960]Besides medicine, do things like space travel, electricity, and cars really make our lives much better? couldn't we get along without it for thousands of years? I think that looking for extra terrestrial life is really the biggest waste of money ever. Do we really need to know if there are aliens on other planets? will it benefit us at all? with evolution (I believe in evolution) do we REALLY need to know how humans were created? is it REALLY that important?[/QUOTE] yes because humans are curious by nature, it does benefit us, to teach us to look at everything from both sides

[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17560337]Hey OP, does breathing make us better off? Do we really NEED air? [/QUOTE] I mean, if we all died, then nobody would ever get raped again. The man makes a good point.

you are fucking retarded

As far as space travel goes, we need it to survive. Or at least we will. If we aren't killed by 2012, a huge meteor, or the sun blowing up, we WILL be killed when Andromeda collides with the Milky Way. Science will hopefully provide our species with the means to escape the Galaxy before or at least during the Big Crash. Once the collision begins I imagine we will still have a few thousand years before our Solar System is affected and it won't even happen for I think 3 Billion years, so considering Scientific advancements in the last 100 years, I think 3 Billion is more than enough to design and build a Space Station that is capable of leaving the galaxy. Just don't fucking name it Titanic..

[QUOTE=Zeke129;17542230]I would love to have been born thousands of years in the past in some little Norse village or something. (I wouldn't know the difference, but you know what I mean) But I'm fine with this life and thankful for the knowledge we have now that people didn't have then.[/QUOTE] There is more information in your daily newspaper everyday than someone hundreds of years ago would know in their entire life. [b]Edit:[/b] Also OP is a retard. Go to school, or live in the wild.

[QUOTE=Pepin;17560902]A lot of people here seem to be offended.[/QUOTE] Everyone should be offended when something that keeps them alive, and something they owe their life to many times is marked as:"mostly useless"

[QUOTE=justin gurel;17541968] these are deep questions and they think they know stuff. [/QUOTE] No you think you know stuff. Science is fucking awesome and we need more of it.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;17566958]As far as space travel goes, we need it to survive. Or at least we will. If we aren't killed by 2012, a huge meteor, or the sun blowing up, we WILL be killed when Andromeda collides with the Milky Way. Science will hopefully provide our species with the means to escape the Galaxy before or at least during the Big Crash. Once the collision begins I imagine we will still have a few thousand years before our Solar System is affected and it won't even happen for I think 3 Billion years, so considering Scientific advancements in the last 100 years, I think 3 Billion is more than enough to design and build a Space Station that is capable of leaving the galaxy. Just don't fucking name it Titanic..[/QUOTE] Yeah, 2012, a fake end-of-the-world story. And andromeda. Let's see, designing a space station in 3 billion years that is capable of intergalactic flight. humans won't exist for that long you know. Maybe 1000 years if we find a way to slow global warming. Longer of course once we are able to travel in space. But 3 billion? Come on.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;17567115][b]Yeah, 2012, a fake end-of-the-world story.[/b] And andromeda. The collision with Andromeda will happen in THREE BILLION YEARS... humans will NOT be around at that time. I'll be surprised if we survive another thousand, what with global warming. Also I don't know how soon we'll have everyday space travel, so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.[/QUOTE] If I didn't include it in my examples someone would have mentioned it anyways.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;17567129]If I didn't include it in my examples someone would have mentioned it anyways.[/QUOTE] Edited, also, I don't really think so, I mean most people think (From what I've seen) That we won't be around for the MW-A collision.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;17542084]Fuck yes. It helps us communicate and is a great knowledge database.[/QUOTE] don't forget entertainment.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;17567156]Edited, also, I don't really think so, I mean most people think (From what I've seen) That we won't be around for the MW-A collision.[/QUOTE] That's the thing though, if we can leave this planet and live in Space, we won't have anything to kill us except maybe disease or evolution fucking us over. Being stuck on a planet we are nothing more than target practice for all the shit in space. Space stations or large ships however could move out of the way of such events and provide our species with a much longer life expectancy. All we really have to do is aim the Ship in the opposite direction our Galaxy is moving. This will allow us to leave, avoid Andromeda, and ultimately survive. Either way this Galaxy is going to get fucked over and we need to get out of here. And despite your lack of faith on the subject, I strongly believe that even a few thousand years will provide us with technology that we can only dream of today.