[QUOTE=Binsky;31331197][editline]25th July 2011[/editline]
but in normal cases they become p worthless p fast.[/QUOTE]
sorry but how is any exercise that requires no equipment worthelss?? do u plan on bringing a bench with weights and all on holidays?? i doubt it...
wait, P90X is actually good, and it's built to work at home with just body weight and a pull-up bar and sometimes a dumbbell
tbh just experiment in the first few months with dumbells and simple exercsises and remember ur favourites, then make a workout plan with those so its easier to stick with it for a period. if u get bored with it swap it up.
Hey OP, if you can't afford a gym membership then focus on calisthenics(pushups, situps, etc.).
Hearing that you want to follow a more fit, and healthy lifestyle is great. The fact that you realize that you waste way too much time is a big step, most people don't think about what they could do with free time. You don't NEED a gym membership to be fit.
Ignore these other guys, you don't [B]need[/B] a gym membership if you just want to lose some weight and gain some muscle. You [B]will[/B] gain muscle if you do pushups but [B]not[/B] as fast as, say, benching.
It will take time and it will take effort. You [B]will[/B] feel like quitting and you [B]will[/B] feel lazy. But you have to keep going at it. If you had a gym membership, it would be way easier for you but since you don't have one, you'll have to depend on calisthenics.
Losing weight means that you have to start running. Have you ever ran longer than 10 minutes straight?
Also, if you ever DO get a gym membership, start getting more involved in your fitness. Look up the various weight exercises. Get back to us if you get a gym membership.
Run a few miles every day first of all,
eat on a 500 cal deficit, and go to a fucking gym
if you are really so socially awkward you cant go to a fucking gym, and are too poor to set up a home gym, then do convict conditioning. you might get some results from that. you will get what you want 3-4 times quicker if you actually go the gym, invest in some whey and so on so forth
[QUOTE=Devfrost;31336270]Hey OP, if you can't afford a gym membership then focus on calisthenics(pushups, situps, etc.).
Hearing that you want to follow a more fit, and healthy lifestyle is great. The fact that you realize that you waste way too much time is a big step, most people don't think about what they could do with free time. You don't NEED a gym membership to be fit.
Ignore these other guys, you don't [B]need[/B] a gym membership if you just want to lose some weight and gain some muscle. You [B]will[/B] gain muscle if you do pushups but [B]not[/B] as fast as, say, benching.
It will take time and it will take effort. You [B]will[/B] feel like quitting and you [B]will[/B] feel lazy. But you have to keep going at it. If you had a gym membership, it would be way easier for you but since you don't have one, you'll have to depend on calisthenics.
Losing weight means that you have to start running. Have you ever ran longer than 10 minutes straight?
Also, if you ever DO get a gym membership, start getting more involved in your fitness. Look up the various weight exercises. Get back to us if you get a gym membership.[/QUOTE]
Thank fuck, finally an answer that will actually help the guy.
I don't know if you are interested, and i haven't read all of the posts (sorry errbody) but, one thing i just did since the gym has gotten boring and too much of a hassle to drive to recently, was to make myself a sandbag. I'm going to get some weights, and hopefully a bar and bench at some point in the near future, but it's been fun working out with this thing the few nights i have had off of work.
It was pretty cheap too, the hardest part was actually tracking down a sandbag locally (For a college town that is a 20 minute drive from the Missouri River you would figure we would have a few stores with sandbags...but only Menards had them near by.
Anyhow, i picked up 4 sandbags (they are the plastic weave ones, not super durable, someday i will probably get burlap or something else), some contractors trash bags, and and then i got 2 50 pound bags of sand. All together, it was maybe 8 bucks (Not counting the contractor trash bags, those i had, but still, i think that would be maybe another 5...).
They are good for lifting (Doing bent over rows with them was a different experience entirely. Having to grip the bag made it harder for me than doing it with a bar at the gym).
You can take them out and toss them, squat them, lift them, do farmers carries, bear hug walks, all sorts of stuff i've found on the internet. It's been a fun, and some what different challenge than just lifting weights (though i don't think it could replace weights entirely).
Oh shit, forgot to mention how i put it together.
(I will explain how i did it, then in hind sight, how i think i should have).
Step 1: I took the sand and dumped it into the contractor bag that i had cut down so it wasn't so big. (I think instead of doing this, with my other bag i will take the sand and pour it into one of the 2 remaining sandbags.)
Step 2: Wrap the trash bag up securly, so that there aren't any leaks, and i used duct tape to seal it up. I went around the length once, and around the width a few times so i had an almost pillow shaped trash bag of sand.
Step 3: Put the bag into the sandbag. (This is why i feel the order is all fucked up with how i originally did it. Trying to squeeze this big awkward trash bag of sand into the sandbag was a workout in it's own right. It was just slightly too wide for the opening, so i had to shove it in, and keep trying to work it in. It was like force feeding an Anaconda a fat kid. Had i put the sand in the sandbag, then taped a trash bag around the sandbag to prevent leaks, then put that one into another sandbag, it probably would have been much easier.)
Step 4: Tie the sandbag off, and use it!
Like i said, it's been fun, and was pretty cheap. If you use 2 sandbags and 2 contractors bags it should be pretty leak free for a while. And if it starts to leak, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. Or if it's a few months down the road you can just pitch it and make a new one.
Another idea i saw was using an old surplus army bag, and putting the sand into individual 20 pound bags so you can change the weight.
Anyhow, if you want a cheap, and pretty fun way to work out other than just the usual weights, i say give it a shot.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=JohnStamosFan;31336938]I don't know if you are interested, and i haven't read all of the posts (sorry errbody) but, one thing i just did since the gym has gotten boring and too much of a hassle to drive to recently, was to make myself a sandbag. I'm going to get some weights, and hopefully a bar and bench at some point in the near future, but it's been fun working out with this thing the few nights i have had off of work.
It was pretty cheap too, the hardest part was actually tracking down a sandbag locally (For a college town that is a 20 minute drive from the Missouri River you would figure we would have a few stores with sandbags...but only Menards had them near by.
Anyhow, i picked up 4 sandbags (they are the plastic weave ones, not super durable, someday i will probably get burlap or something else), some contractors trash bags, and and then i got 2 50 pound bags of sand. All together, it was maybe 8 bucks (Not counting the contractor trash bags, those i had, but still, i think that would be maybe another 5...).
They are good for lifting (Doing bent over rows with them was a different experience entirely. Having to grip the bag made it harder for me than doing it with a bar at the gym).
You can take them out and toss them, squat them, lift them, do farmers carries, bear hug walks, all sorts of stuff i've found on the internet. It's been a fun, and some what different challenge than just lifting weights (though i don't think it could replace weights entirely).
Oh shit, forgot to mention how i put it together.
(I will explain how i did it, then in hind sight, how i think i should have).
Step 1: I took the sand and dumped it into the contractor bag that i had cut down so it wasn't so big. (I think instead of doing this, with my other bag i will take the sand and pour it into one of the 2 remaining sandbags.)
Step 2: Wrap the trash bag up securly, so that there aren't any leaks, and i used duct tape to seal it up. I went around the length once, and around the width a few times so i had an almost pillow shaped trash bag of sand.
Step 3: Put the bag into the sandbag. (This is why i feel the order is all fucked up with how i originally did it. Trying to squeeze this big awkward trash bag of sand into the sandbag was a workout in it's own right. It was just slightly too wide for the opening, so i had to shove it in, and keep trying to work it in. It was like force feeding an Anaconda a fat kid. Had i put the sand in the sandbag, then taped a trash bag around the sandbag to prevent leaks, then put that one into another sandbag, it probably would have been much easier.)
Step 4: Tie the sandbag off, and use it!
Like i said, it's been fun, and was pretty cheap. If you use 2 sandbags and 2 contractors bags it should be pretty leak free for a while. And if it starts to leak, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. Or if it's a few months down the road you can just pitch it and make a new one.
Another idea i saw was using an old surplus army bag, and putting the sand into individual 20 pound bags so you can change the weight.
Anyhow, if you want a cheap, and pretty fun way to work out other than just the usual weights, i say give it a shot.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
this is an incredibly great idea, can you post pictures of your sandbags? no homo
Fuck it I'll find the money and join a gym.
So how regularly should I be going and is there a good regime I should be following or should I create my own? I have a treadmill at home so I won't be using the ones there.
Also, this may seem like a silly question but, what kind of attire will I be needing? I was just planning to wear tracksuit pants and a shirt.
I plan to go to: [url]http://www.gym4all.com/[/url] just because it's the most affordable.
[editline]26th July 2011[/editline]
I actually plan to go into town this morning at 10am and the place I'm going is literally next door to the gym, I might get a one day pass and give it a try, see how I feel.
Still nervous though I have no idea where I'd begin once I go in (apart from the changing rooms) and how much weight I should put on the machines etc.
You should watch Scooy1961's videos. He seems to know what he's talking about.
[url]http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/[/url]
Also, trying doing parkour! That really gets you into shape while gaining some muscle and endurance.
Not a fan of parkour, plus I've decided to go to the gym anyway, now I'm just looking for tips on how to not look like an idiot when I go next week and if I should follow a regime or make my own.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;31340307]Not a fan of parkour, plus I've decided to go to the gym anyway, now I'm just looking for tips on how to not look like an idiot when I go next week and if I should follow a regime or make my own.[/QUOTE]
To not look like an idiot, bring friends with you. Thats what i did when i first started doing parkour, so i didnt look like a loser lol.
If you keep at it ull do great :D
[QUOTE=DragonMan933;31340361]To not look like an idiot, bring friends with you. Thats what i did when i first started doing parkour, so i didnt look like a loser lol.
If you keep at it ull do great :D[/QUOTE]
Sounds like someone totally read the OP
[editline]26th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DragonMan933;31339871]He seems to know what he's talking about.
[/QUOTE]
It's funny, because he doesn't.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31340496]
It's funny, because he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Why do you say that?
He's a major broscientist at nutrition and he praises the Dumbbells like they're some kind of holy grail...
...which they're absolutely not.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31340625]He's a major broscientist at nutrition and he praises the Dumbbells like they're some kind of holy grail...
...which they're absolutely not.[/QUOTE]
Idk, you might be right but he seems pretty smart about it.
[QUOTE=Devfrost;31337344]this is an incredibly great idea, can you post pictures of your sandbags? no homo[/QUOTE]
yeah, i will put them up tomorrow. I don't have my camera on me, but i will grab it and post them.
If you want i can do a step by step thing...might end up a sandy fucking disaster, but it might work out okay.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;31339402]Fuck it I'll find the money and join a gym.
So how regularly should I be going and is there a good regime I should be following or should I create my own? I have a treadmill at home so I won't be using the ones there.
Also, this may seem like a silly question but, what kind of attire will I be needing? I was just planning to wear tracksuit pants and a shirt.
I plan to go to: [URL]http://www.gym4all.com/[/URL] just because it's the most affordable.
[editline]26th July 2011[/editline]
I actually plan to go into town this morning at 10am and the place I'm going is literally next door to the gym, I might get a one day pass and give it a try, see how I feel.
Still nervous though I have no idea where I'd begin once I go in (apart from the changing rooms) and how much weight I should put on the machines etc.[/QUOTE]
Great, that's excellent dude. You'll find the gym to be an investment totally worth it for life, as long as you [B]commit[/B].
Let's start with 3 days a week: Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
There are 4 compound lifts: The squat, the deadlift, the bench press, and bent-over rows. You will do these lifts first before moving onto more isolated lifts later on as you go to the gym more. Check out youtube videos on how to do these compound lifts and practice your form in the mirror. There is a [B]massive[/B] necessity for [B]form[/B] when you lift. Having good form avoids danger and injury, and gives you the best lift for your muscles.
Since you are trying for strength, that means low repetitions but more weight.
So for Monday you'll do:
3 sets of benching 5 reps(3x5 bench)
3 sets of squatting 5 reps(3x5 squat)
3 sets of deadlifting 5 reps(3x5 deadlift)
3 sets of rowing 5 reps(3x5 rows)
So, the first thing you do when you walk into the gym is head for one of those four lifts. Don't put any weights on yet, just make sure you have good form with JUST the bar. Raise the weight in small increments; you need to find out what you [B]can[/B] do. Don't worry about what others are doing, it doesn't matter how light the weights are [B]now[/B], what matters is how consistent you are in going to the gym.
First, before starting with heavy weights, you need to warm up. Jog around for 10 minutes or so. Warming up stimulates blood and oxygen flow throughout your muscles making them ready for weight lifting.
When you're given a regime such as above, you'll realize that 5 reps is [B]not[/B] a lot. So that means that you have to make sure the weight is heavy for you. [B]Listen[/B] to your body. The first rep should feel slightly uncomfortable.
Your attire is fine, just bring some shorts underneath your track pants and don't forget running shoes. If you don't have running shoes, bring your basketball shoes. You can get running shoes later.
[QUOTE=Devfrost;31351698]Great, that's excellent dude. You'll find the gym to be an investment totally worth it for life, as long as you [B]commit[/B].
Let's start with 3 days a week: Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
There are 4 compound lifts: The squat, the deadlift, the bench press, and bent-over rows. You will do these lifts first before moving onto more isolated lifts later on as you go to the gym more. Check out youtube videos on how to do these compound lifts and practice your form in the mirror. There is a [B]massive[/B] necessity for [B]form[/B] when you lift. Having good form avoids danger and injury, and gives you the best lift for your muscles.
Since you are trying for strength, that means low repetitions but more weight.
So for Monday you'll do:
3 sets of benching 5 reps(3x5 bench)
3 sets of squatting 5 reps(3x5 squat)
3 sets of deadlifting 5 reps(3x5 deadlift)
3 sets of rowing 5 reps(3x5 rows)
So, the first thing you do when you walk into the gym is head for one of those four lifts. Don't put any weights on yet, just make sure you have good form with JUST the bar. Raise the weight in small increments; you need to find out what you [B]can[/B] do. Don't worry about what others are doing, it doesn't matter how light the weights are [B]now[/B], what matters is how consistent you are in going to the gym.
First, before starting with heavy weights, you need to warm up. Jog around for 10 minutes or so. Warming up stimulates blood and oxygen flow throughout your muscles making them ready for weight lifting.
When you're given a regime such as above, you'll realize that 5 reps is [B]not[/B] a lot. So that means that you have to make sure the weight is heavy for you. [B]Listen[/B] to your body. The first rep should feel slightly uncomfortable.
Your attire is fine, just bring some shorts underneath your track pants and don't forget running shoes. If you don't have running shoes, bring your basketball shoes. You can get running shoes later.[/QUOTE]Don't deadlift in running shoes.
Two quick questions;
1. WHAT IT UP WITH ALL THE BOLDIN UNEEDED SHIT IN YOUR POSTS? ANNOYS THE FUCK OUT OF ME
2. More calmly now, bent over rows? Yes it's a compound, but what the fuck, no Military press/push press/clean n jerks? the fook?
A copy of P90x !
[QUOTE=possum272;31356448]A copy of P90x ![/QUOTE]P90X is okay for superficial fitness, but you won't gain any real strength.
I suggest getting these: [url]http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS252&q=cap+barbell+40-pound+dumbbell+set&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2420246322500961897&sa=X&ei=LWkvTrGjNMby0gH7vbHpAQ&ved=0CGgQ8wIwAQ[/url]
They're pretty cheap. I use them in my dorm and it was very helpful to.. I don't know.. build a bit of muscle (and definitely some self confidence). I was a bit out of shape and the first few times definitely were waking up muscles that hadn't been used like that in quite a while. I work out every other day and now that I can actually see some results and have a bit of a better image I'd be way more willing to go to the gym, which I plan on doing very soon. It's all about how you approach it, you just gotta want to keep pushing yourself.
[QUOTE=JeffAndersen;31358157]I suggest getting these: [url]http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS252&q=cap+barbell+40-pound+dumbbell+set&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2420246322500961897&sa=X&ei=LWkvTrGjNMby0gH7vbHpAQ&ved=0CGgQ8wIwAQ[/url]
They're pretty cheap. I use them in my dorm and it was very helpful to.. I don't know.. build a bit of muscle (and definitely some self confidence). I was a bit out of shape and the first few times definitely were waking up muscles that hadn't been used like that in quite a while. I work out every other day and now that I can actually see some results and have a bit of a better image I'd be way more willing to go to the gym, which I plan on doing very soon. It's all about how you approach it, you just gotta want to keep pushing yourself.[/QUOTE]
u can get a working dumbell set like that for 4x cheaper at least @ a garage sale. i got mine traded for one of my old PCs
[QUOTE=Seith;31327311]I'll be honest here;
When I see a person asking a question in the zones of "quick fix" "quick results" "few pounds off n somemuscle" I cringe.
People who want to be something, want to be just generally GOOD, don't give up on themselves and follow such measly goals. It reflects to every aspect of your life.
When I do something, I do the best I can. I play guitar, I don't stop playing. I think about it, I love it I just keep on reading. I don't feel a rush by just holding it, I need to progressively load the knowledge, the challenge itself, when I do stuff. Those people are winners.
You want to be a loser? go ahead. This is a shit thread. Waste of my goddamn time. I always tell my friends that want to workout it with me the same thing - "Before you join me, you better set some goals. I don't to workout with people who want to achieve nothing but a general shadow of what they think they want to be".[/QUOTE]
Every aspect of your life :'D That's how I roll. Beautiful.
Also:
Oh God, Devfrost posts are gold, listen to him.
I try to help them before I criticize them. Not criticize them then help them. You aren't going to get anywhere if you just blindly insult them on an internet forum. It doesn't fucking work on an internet forum.
If you want to criticize them and then help them, you need to do it in person. All the OP will see is just a bunch of words lowering his self-esteem. If it was in person, he'd read your body language and see, "hmm, maybe this asshole really does want to help me even though he's busting my balls."
Seith, seriously, everyone starts somewhere. There's a majority of people in the world that don't know crap about commitment, and they need to [B]learn[/B] it(i know you hate that bolding). Not everyone can start out as someone with a 'strong' personality. THIS is an internet gaming forum, almost everyone is insecure about themselves. It's a blessing that they come here to build up their self-image, atleast they fucking realize that [B]they're[/B] in control of their own body.
[editline]27th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Seith;31353627]Two quick questions;
1. WHAT IT UP WITH ALL THE BOLDIN UNEEDED SHIT IN YOUR POSTS? ANNOYS THE FUCK OUT OF ME
2. More calmly now, bent over rows? Yes it's a compound, but what the fuck, no Military press/push press/clean n jerks? the fook?[/QUOTE]
Let's start with lifts that are more basic.
[QUOTE=Devfrost;31377837]I try to help them before I criticize them. Not criticize them then help them. You aren't going to get anywhere if you just blindly insult them on an internet forum. It doesn't fucking work on an internet forum.
If you want to criticize them and then help them, you need to do it in person. All the OP will see is just a bunch of words lowering his self-esteem. If it was in person, he'd read your body language and see, "hmm, maybe this asshole really does want to help me even though he's busting my balls."
Seith, seriously, everyone starts somewhere. There's a majority of people in the world that don't know crap about commitment, and they need to [B]learn[/B] it(i know you hate that bolding). Not everyone can start out as someone with a 'strong' personality. THIS is an internet gaming forum, almost everyone is insecure about themselves. It's a blessing that they come here to build up their self-image, atleast they fucking realize that [B]they're[/B] in control of their own body.
[editline]27th July 2011[/editline]
Let's start with lifts that are more basic.[/QUOTE]
You call deadlift basic? I mean, I found it harder to obtain perfect form with dl than with shoulder presses.
Bent over rows are pretty much useless as the guy is already holding the bar in the same position as BOR in the deadlifts.
[QUOTE=Seith;31384862]You call deadlift basic? I mean, I found it harder to obtain perfect form with dl than with shoulder presses.
Bent over rows are pretty much useless as the guy is already holding the bar in the same position as BOR in the deadlifts.[/QUOTE]
I'd say it's easier than a clean and jerk. OP, have a look at this video on how to do a correct deadlift: [video=youtube;8u899wRnwqs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u899wRnwqs[/video]
Suggest some more lifts that would be more useful, Seith, i'm just giving him a direction
Military press? very simple. Most people can handle it in a matter of days.
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