[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;22738711]this is a huge fucking mess, these people work for BP, it is their responsibility, they hired the fucktards that let this happen, it IS their fault[/QUOTE]
The people at the top of the company have nothing to do with the people at the bottom. The few responsible for this mess are the only ones that should face consequence. The people who hired the ones who messed up cannot be held responsible as they do not know the levels of ignorance that a worker has, this stuff isn't put on a CV, you cannot control such factors.
I'm currently completely unaffected by it, so it's not that I don't care, there's just not much I could do or say about it.
[QUOTE=justinlol;22738749]... Everyone working on that rig is dead, all eleven people. The rig exploded.[/QUOTE]
[quote=wikipedia]At the time of the explosion, there were 126 crew on board; seven were employees of BP, 79 of Transocean, there were also employees of various other companies involved in the operation of the rig.[/quote]
If anything, Transocean should be held responsible.
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i did not make this, but i do take credit for the bp logo
I think that it is bad.
It's big.
I think BP were acting very foolishly when they okay'd the oil spill.
Yes, the oil spill is bad, but spending time blaming people for the oil spill gets us nowhere. You have to stop the leak and then clean up the spill for even venturing into the depths of law.
25b dollars a year turned in 5b/per 4 years
and that they blamed the oil rig company who blamed the workers who blamed the thing that was build so this would no happen because of a dead battery THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT and did no change
BP have done plenty of shit in the past
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2010/06/post.html[/url]
oblama cut the pipe with his communist values
It's slippery.
The oil spill is way to aggresive in his plan to destory the east coast, I don't think this is going to work out for him very well, not to mention he's gained alot of weight and isn't in good shape.
[b]AHEM![/b]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO4S2Y1hwEo[/media]
My opinion on how to clean it up.
[b]Edited:[/b]
We could also bomb the ground around it in order to cause an implosion and plug the area in, just saying.
I think one country did that once when an oil spill happened but I can't remember which one.
[QUOTE=radioactive;22738788]The people at the top of the company have nothing to do with the people at the bottom. The few responsible for this mess are the only ones that should face consequence. The people who hired the ones who messed up cannot be held responsible as they do not know the levels of ignorance that a worker has, this stuff isn't put on a CV, you cannot control such factors.[/QUOTE]
Except that they DID realize that it was a fucking nightmare rig. The higher-ups didn't fucking listen to the people who actually know anything.
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/bp-engineer-called-deepwa_n_611739.html[/url]
All of the people working on it said that they had cut corners on many safety functions:
They also did all of these things:
[list]
Went against the advice of its own plan review regarding the well's design and chose a riskier, cheaper and quicker casing option
[*]Used only six centralisers to make sure the casing ran down the centre of the well bore, rather than the 21 recommended by sub-contractor Halliburton
[*]Rejected warnings by its own plan review and Halliburton in preparations for a cementing job
[*]Decided to forego a recommended safety step in the circulation of drilling mud
[*]Did not deploy a "lockdown sleeve" that would have prevented the seal from being blown out from below
[/list]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/10354112.stm[/url]
These are all things that high-ups would be involved in signing off on.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;22740990]Except that they DID realize that it was a fucking nightmare rig. The higher-ups didn't fucking listen to the people who actually know anything.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/bp-engineer-called-deepwa_n_611739.html[/URL]
All of the people working on it said that they had cut corners on many safety functions:
They also did all of these things:
[LIST]
[*]Went against the advice of its own plan review regarding the well's design and chose a riskier, cheaper and quicker casing option
[*]Used only six centralisers to make sure the casing ran down the centre of the well bore, rather than the 21 recommended by sub-contractor Halliburton
[*]Rejected warnings by its own plan review and Halliburton in preparations for a cementing job
[*]Decided to forego a recommended safety step in the circulation of drilling mud
[*]Did not deploy a "lockdown sleeve" that would have prevented the seal from being blown out from below
[/LIST]
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/10354112.stm[/URL]
These are all things that high-ups would be involved in signing off on.[/QUOTE]
As far as things go in an oil company as large as BP, the higher ups like Tony Hayword and such are not told everything that goes on out on the rigs. Shit, I'd be surprised if Tony even heard the name of the Deepwater Horizon in a weekly basis. The people who made the bad decisions and cut corners are the people on the rig. Their job is this: Poke a hole in the ground. The faster and cheaper you do it, the more money you make. The rig employees do what the bosses on the rig tell them. The bosses on the rig do what they want, because in the end, you just can't monitor hundreds of rigs at once. Those are the people who should be fired.
[QUOTE=OvB;22741598]As far as things go in an oil company as large as BP, the higher ups like Tony Hayword and such are not told everything that goes on out on the rigs. Shit, I'd be surprised if Tony even heard the name of the Deepwater Horizon in a weekly basis. The people who made the bad decisions and cut corners are the people on the rig. Their job is this: Poke a hole in the ground. The faster and cheaper you do it, the more money you make. The rig employees do what the bosses on the rig tell them. The bosses on the rig do what they want, because in the end, you just can't monitor hundreds of rigs at once. Those are the people who should be fired.[/QUOTE]
You just ignored everything he said.
I don't care. At all.
1000+ miles from a coastline.
Fail Fest 2010
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;22738560]It will end it a court case, large payouts and probably the director of the oil rig being used as a scapegoat by BP to avoid having to pay for everything.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, the smell of american justice system in the night.
Doesn't it just choke you to death for all you own?
I believe we can capitalize on it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22741642]You just ignored everything he said.[/QUOTE]
Well the higher ups (way high up, CEO) don't hear about the stuff that happens on the rigs. They just make sure the company is running as it should and approve new sites for drilling, as far as the actual drilling process they never hear a word of it, especially the size of BP. Holding say, Tony Hayword and the other executives responsible would be like holding Obama responsible for a bad assult in Afghanistan. They need to fire the people who were in charge of the rig. They're responsible.
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[QUOTE=3viLoc1Ty;22741709]I don't care. At all.
1000+ miles from a coastline.[/QUOTE]
50 miles from some of the most delicate coast line in the gulf.
[img]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3491/oilspill2h.jpg[/img]
Oh wait.
[QUOTE=OvB;22741598]As far as things go in an oil company as large as BP, the higher ups like Tony Hayword and such are not told everything that goes on out on the rigs. Shit, I'd be surprised if Tony even heard the name of the Deepwater Horizon in a weekly basis. The people who made the bad decisions and cut corners are the people on the rig. Their job is this: Poke a hole in the ground. The faster and cheaper you do it, the more money you make. The rig employees do what the bosses on the rig tell them. The bosses on the rig do what they want, because in the end, you just can't monitor hundreds of rigs at once. Those are the people who should be fired.[/QUOTE]
gj ignoring everything I said.
There are these things called reviews, it's not like the board din't know that there was a rig called Deepwater Horizon. They still have to sign off on the ops. The people on the rigs probably had almost no actual authority.
No matter if they micromanaged or not, they put the fucking destructive policies in place that led to this. They're the ones who would have instructed them to cut corners, and who wouldn't sign off on tighter tolerances in the drilling operation.
I somehow doubt that the board as an entity wasn't aware that at least one of their deepwater rigs had failed to meet reccomendations of multiple different safety inquiries, both by their own review commities and the ones of their subcontracters.
[QUOTE=Archy;22737826]a huge corporation tries to cut corners and screws over the entire southern coast
corporate incompetence at its best[/QUOTE]
couldn't have said it better myself. bravo.
Don't cry over spilled oil.
uhm it sucks
why is this a thread this is a bad thread you should be ashamed
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[IMG]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3491/oilspill2h.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Didn't happen to me.
Well it's about to hit where i live in the next few weeks so I'm quite pissed off about it
[QUOTE=bobste;22739570]oblama cut the pipe with his communist values[/QUOTE]
Yeah! Iraq Hussein Osama is ruining our country with his health care, community aid, and unfortunate middle name! Also, he's black!
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;22745726]Yeah! Iraq Hussein Osama is ruining our country with his health care, community aid, and unfortunate middle name! Also, he's black![/QUOTE]
he's also failing as a president. don't know if you noticed that, though.
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