Fix Up! Look Sharp! V8 (Posting yourself dressed in camo isn't funny anymore)

[chinatown]

I once bought a pair of pants in China, 4 years ago. The crotch ripped once, and that was earlier this year. They cost me less around $5

[Dopey Trout]

[QUOTE=zzzz;38949063]Funny that both those pairs look exactly the same[/QUOTE]

no they don't

[QUOTE=zzzz;38949063]both have the same hole in the back right pocket[/QUOTE]

no they don't

[QUOTE=zzzz;38949063]one looks like someone went at the crotch with scissors and the other one does not[/QUOTE]

no they don't

[editline]24th December 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Faz;38947073]I'm pretty sure jeans should always be the most expensive item in an outfit because of all things you can get away with wearing them the most. If you're wearing $50 jeans and a $400 jacket then somethings wrong.[/QUOTE]

Don't agree with most expensive, but personally I don't see the harm in paying more than Levi prices

[SCopE5000]

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38935814]Don't get slim guy[/QUOTE]

Do get slim/ straight. Bootcut or baggy Jeans are fucking horrendous.

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38937711]why would you buy $165 jeans[/QUOTE]

Because he wants to.

[QUOTE=Lilyo;38941633]It is when they're spending all that extra money for nothing but the prestige of the brand. A similar pair of jeans could be bought for $50 or something, but pay triple the price if you must, just don't expect everyone to ignore that in a thread about fashion and purchasing clothes...[/QUOTE]

You can get a pair of McQ jeans for £200.

You can get a pair of Primark jeans for £5.

I would prefer the McQ jeans and with a well paying job I wouldn't think twice about purchasing them.

IMO being frugal/ extravagant with the amount you spend on clothing is really an individual choice as much as the clothes themselves.

I know people who make shitloads of money but don't wear expensive clothes. I know people who make shitloads of money and do wear expensive clothes.

This is only really an issue for someone who doesn't have the means to afford expensive clothing but wishes they could.

So I ask you; Why do you care how much he spends on clothes?

[Lord of Ears]

price =/= quality

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

and buying for brands is a symbol of massive douchery

[Lemonator]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38950882]price =/= quality
[/QUOTE]

price does mean quality if you buy things from the right places

[SCopE5000]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38950882]price =/= quality[/QUOTE]

If you used the argument that it is possible to have impeccable style without breaking the bank, I'd agree entirely. It is possible to dress entirely in charity shop clothing but look exactly how you wish to deliver whatever impression.

The point is we're not talking about style, quality or any number of things as a variable factor. We're talking about price as a variable itself - which is solely influenced by brand reputation and the image they wish to deliver.

Primark wants to provide jeans to the 70%+ of people who don't care. They price them at less than a lunch. No one could claim they were ripped off or overcharged at Primark. That's where they make their money.

If every brand chose this price-point, there would be no brands, no innovation, and everyone would wear the same, and it'd be shit.

McQ is aimed at 1% or fewer of the people in the jeans market who will pay that much for jeans. That's where they make their money. And I guarantee they'll be far higher quality, obviously this is brand-for-brand though.

Be thankful that they exist and people buy them, otherwise, like I said before - everyone would wear the same, and it'd be shit.

On a personal level, I relate buying clothing to the amount lunches cost, and the price of other common commodities.

If I go out and buy a cheap lunch from Greggs consisting of a Chicken Sub, several pasties, and a drink - It'll cost about £5. If I went to Subway I'd get a reasonable Sub for the same price.

I see spending more than this amount on Jeans, which are definitely going to last a year or more (for me) as a perfectly reasonable thing to do. This is why I never get the cheapest toilet paper. If I get nicer toilet paper it's going to last a few months at least, and it's going to cost, at most, the same amount as a McDonalds Big Mac. Why skimp on that for a pound or two when it's going to last [i]months[/i]? It doesn't make sense.

£45 jeans to me are equivalent to a few trips to mcDonalds or buying a few days worth of food at a supermarket. They're going to last over a year. No problem.

£100+ would have me seriously considering if I like the item enough to make a purchase.. It wouldn't be a straight up instant decision, but after a few days seeing how many times I check back on the page, how much I'm thinking about them, and how much research I'm doing.

When I found a particular really hard-to-find item I liked a few weeks ago I was conflicted by the price-tag, but after finding myself spending hours enthralled in searching and researching the item - I knew it was without-a-doubt going to be a purchase.

[Lord of Ears]

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38951048]price does mean quality if you buy things from the right places[/QUOTE]

way to say nothing at all

[Fire Feure]

Don't worry about wearing jeans Scope, you know I like you without them. :quagmire:

[Lemonator]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38951063]way to say nothing at all[/QUOTE]

what I meant was if you actually think that you can get APC quality jeans under 100 dollars you're an idiot, you obviously can't see quality when it's right in front of you

[Lord of Ears]

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38951049]-words-[/QUOTE]

obviously yeah, if you find one particular unique item that you're enthralled with you'll buy it no matter the price, but brands are worthless and paying money because these jeans have this name written on them is just douchetier

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38951096]what I meant was if you actually think that you can get APC quality jeans under 100 dollars you're an idiot, you obviously can't see quality when it's right in front of you[/QUOTE]

i've had $20 old navy jeans that've lasted for two years
just saiyan

[SCopE5000]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38951108]obviously yeah, if you find one particular unique item that you're enthralled with you'll buy it no matter the price, but brands are worthless and paying money because these jeans have this name written on them is just douchetier
[/QUOTE]

If you make £100 a day what's the problem with spending £1000+ on whatever-the-fuck-you-want?

None.

If you make £0 a day then obviously you have a problem with it because you think [i]you[/i] deserve that money.

[Lord Pirate]

I swear this argument happens at least once a month. I expect in a page or two people will start posting pictures of their bank statements for what is probably the fifth time.

[Lord of Ears]

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38951139]If you make £100 a day what's the problem with spending £1000+ on whatever-the-fuck-you-want?

None.

If you make £0 a day then obviously you have a problem with it because you think [i]you[/i] deserve that money.[/QUOTE]

i'm in no position to say what people can and can't buy, but i really don't understand why anyone would spend 1000 pounds on one single article of overpriced designer shit when they could spend that money on 100 articles of good quality clothing

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

i don't even know what the fuck you're talking about with that second argument

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

and also, i don't get this whole entire "MONEY EQUALS QUALITY" argument
what the hell are you doing in your day-by-day life where you actually can justify spending that much on "high quality" clothes?
do you guys freeclimb mountains and wrestle gorillas for a living or what?
people act like inexpensive clothes will literally disintegrate off their backs or some shit

[thatguyfosho]

i just strap plastic bags to my legs and call it a day

[Dopey Trout]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38951108]obviously yeah, if you find one particular unique item that you're enthralled with you'll buy it no matter the price, but brands are worthless and paying money because these jeans have this name written on them is just douchetier[/QUOTE]

While I see the point you're trying to make, I think we're fighting two separate arguments.

We're looking at brand names as a distinct sense of quality control and a generally pleasing product. It's okay to say that certain brands generally speaking have good quality stuff, particularly in the case of brands like N&F, who, while they do cost above average, have a massive fanbase in the denim community.

You seem to be fighting the notion of branding for the sake of branding, which is another argument entirely. I could (if I could afford to) deck myself out in Iron Heart denim that'd last years and nobody would know unless I told them. At the same time i could plaster myself in Louis Vuitton and everyone would fucking know.

But either way, it's the wrong decision made for the wrong reason and I agree with you there. Looking at a name for the sake of it being a name isn't good, seeing a brand as a consistent supplier of quality products with some detachment is, IMO, okay.

[editline]24th December 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38951210]and also, i don't get this whole entire "MONEY EQUALS QUALITY" argument
what the hell are you doing in your day-by-day life where you actually can justify spending that much on "high quality" clothes?
do you guys freeclimb mountains and wrestle gorillas for a living or what?
people act like inexpensive clothes will literally disintegrate off their backs or some shit[/QUOTE]

I'd rather pay more for nicer stuff made by people in nicer conditions. I don't demand everyone do the same. I don't make a whole lot of money but I plan and consider my purchases before I make them. I'm quite aware mid price clothing is of perfectly fine quality, I own plenty of it, I just like stuff a bit more off the beaten path too

[Shustriyvich]

Oh hey, I wonder what useful fashion advice this thread holds for me toda- nope just more stupid-ass arguments that never end

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

Seriously guys, we go through these arguments so often that it's really fucking annoying at this point. Why can't we just go back to advice and recommendations?

[Lord of Ears]

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;38951350]While I see the point you're trying to make, I think we're fighting two separate arguments.

We're looking at brand names as a distinct sense of quality control and a generally pleasing product. It's okay to say that certain brands generally speaking have good quality stuff, particularly in the case of brands like N&F, who, while they do cost above average, have a massive fanbase in the denim community.

You seem to be fighting the notion of branding for the sake of branding, which is another argument entirely. I could (if I could afford to) deck myself out in Iron Heart denim that'd last years and nobody would know unless I told them. At the same time i could plaster myself in Louis Vuitton and everyone would fucking know.

But either way, it's the wrong decision made for the wrong reason and I agree with you there. Looking at a name for the sake of it being a name isn't good, seeing a brand as a consistent supplier of quality products with some detachment is, IMO, okay.[/QUOTE]

this is what i'm trying to say
brands are worthless ie, judge them by their clothes and not by their "prestige"

[quote]I'd rather pay more for nicer stuff made by people in nicer conditions. I don't demand everyone do the same. I don't make a whole lot of money but I plan and consider my purchases before I make them. I'm quite aware mid price clothing is of perfectly fine quality, I own plenty of it, I just like stuff a bit more off the beaten path too[/quote]

i can understand buying clothes with higher worker quality for more money, but some people (lemonator) constantly talk about their $150 t-shirts that'll last so much longer than us peasants' $20 shirts

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Glitch360;38951387]Oh hey, I wonder what useful fashion advice this thread holds for me toda- nope just more stupid-ass arguments that never end

[editline]23rd December 2012[/editline]

Seriously guys, we go through these arguments so often that it's really fucking annoying at this point. Why can't we just go back to advice and recommendations?[/QUOTE]

if you have something to ask or post then do it, because nobody was before this current debate started and nobody is right now either
arguments and discussion are what fills the time between actual content

[Bleach Qeef]

tldr no one gives a shit how much your clothes cost and fashion is in the eye of the beholder

[Dopey Trout]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;38951462]this is what i'm trying to say
brands are worthless ie, judge them by their clothes and not by their "prestige"

i can understand buying clothes with higher worker quality for more money, but some people (lemonator) constantly talk about their $150 t-shirts that'll last so much longer than us peasants' $20 shirts[/QUOTE]

Completely agree. Truth be told some expensive brands (generally speaking not the more... workwear or Americana oriented brands which I tend to prefer) will fall into disrepair quicker because they need to be babied

[Faz]

why is everyone arguing cause i wanna buy $160 jeans
you guys must not get along well with the shitload of people that wear true religion etc. now days

[zukriuchen]

1. layering with something lighter over a darker shirt, does that work most of the time? (e.g. light grey cardigan and black shirt underneath)

2. whats fp's opinion on scarves?

3. and what about pants with different colors? no, not the super bright colors you see on scene/emo-ish people

[chinatown]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;38951751]1. layering with something lighter over a darker shirt, does that work most of the time? (e.g. light grey cardigan and black shirt underneath)

2. whats fp's opinion on scarves?

3. and what about pants with different colors? no, not the super bright colors you see on scene/emo-ish people[/QUOTE]

1. depends on most cases. That gray cardigan-black shirt combo sounds a bit risky though. Post pictures if you have specific cases

2. If its cold, wear them.

3. What colors are you talking about? Or do you mean besides jeans? Theres tanned pants, then theres colored chinos (red, green, blue, yellow, etc, etc) which I see a lot of people wear

[mako_]

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38951139]
If you make £0 a day then obviously you have a problem with it because you think [i]you[/i] deserve that money.[/QUOTE]

What?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;38951751]
3. and what about pants with different colors? no, not the super bright colors you see on scene/emo-ish people[/QUOTE]

Even more conservative coloured jeans look stupid imo, you see dudes a dime a dozen wearing burgundy pants on the back of the looking-indie hype

Chinos in varying tones are alright once you don't go too mustardy or muddy, I guess tan to grey is what you're looking for, or more earthy

Anything else like blue or green or red in any kind of legwear and you'll look like an idiot

[Fire Kracker]

i want some orange jeans do you guys have any recommendations

[editline]24th December 2012[/editline]

legit

[zukriuchen]

I don't have that combo, its just the first thing that came to my head. I was just wondering because what you see most of the time is the opposite (darker stuff over lighter clothes), and I want to try something different sometime, I'll post something if I think about it

and colored chinos, I guess? but I'm thinking darker colors ([url=http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nn07-red-chino-1.jpg]example[/url]) which probably also fits the thing Mako dislikes.

[NightmareXx]

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38951096]what I meant was if you actually think that you can get APC quality jeans under 100 dollars you're an idiot, you obviously can't see quality when it's right in front of you[/QUOTE]
i'd agree with you if APC wasn't overrated as fuck

[Lemonator]

[QUOTE=NightmareXx;38951941]i'd agree with you if APC wasn't overrated as fuck[/QUOTE]

apc fits better than naked and famous

and the denim feels better

[NightmareXx]

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38952209]apc fits better than naked and famous

and the denim feels better[/QUOTE]
apc has great fits but their denim is bullshit
lightweight stretchy bullshit

[mako_]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;38951927]I don't have that combo, its just the first thing that came to my head. I was just wondering because what you see most of the time is the opposite (darker stuff over lighter clothes), and I want to try something different sometime, I'll post something if I think about it

and colored chinos, I guess? but I'm thinking darker colors ([url=http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nn07-red-chino-1.jpg]example[/url]) which probably also fits the thing Mako dislikes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;38951856][b]you see dudes a dime a dozen wearing burgundy pants on the back of the looking-indie hype[/b][/QUOTE]

Personally I'm a fan of more desaturated chinos

[t]http://images.asos-media.com/inv/media/9/0/4/5/2155409/image2xxl.jpg[/t]

[t]http://images.asos-media.com/inv/media/1/1/6/8/2278611/image2xxl.jpg[/t]

Something like that

[Meeps]

buying these probably. ~$70

[img_thumb]http://www.aldoshoes.com/static/webUpload/731/26_greenler_28_6.jpg[/img_thumb]

I REALLY like these too:
[img_thumb]http://www.aldoshoes.com/static/webUpload/731/26_millora_22_6.jpg[/img_thumb]

hmmmm