same, i'm tired of eating pasta and shit. it's nice eating something different for a change
I eat American every day. God bless America
[QUOTE=Xieneus;47218051]I eat American every day. God bless America[/QUOTE]
So, everything?
I saw this sign in college today lol.
[IMG]http://i1.minus.com/jbf6oeYkovPyhM.jpg[/IMG]
I'm very gay today, thanks.
Welp, going to Portland for a few months for my job. Maybe this will be a new start for me. I've just been feeling dragged down at home lately, among other serious problems.
Go down to Chinese Takeaway to get something to eat, walking back, look at floor.
Full unopened scratched to shit bottle of tango cherry.
Nice.
Hey guys, random question that you FP oldies might be able to answer. You guys remember that guy from the days of the custom subforum that led us on for the good portion of 1-2 years with a fake gay persona? Idk if he was trans, gay or just very effeminate but he was very pretty. He was a genuinely nice person and very involved in the community until one day he revealed it was all a hoax and all the photos were from some random myspace profile. :v: What ever happened to him?
Now that I think of it, was it the Gay subforum or the Furry subforum? The furry sub was pretty dang gay too. :v:
that sounds hilarious
tell me more
I keep clicking accidentally the unsubscribe button while navigating on my phone and then I always forget to resub. This site on phone is horrendous :v:
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;47219252]I keep clicking accidentally the unsubscribe button while navigating on my phone and then I always forget to resub. This site on phone is horrendous :v:[/QUOTE]
How do you keep clicking it? I can barely tell its there half the time.
Why hellooooooo nurse
I'm the new kid in town, so as a gift of my people, I bring this gif of [URL="http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/2-26-2015/53equf.gif"]Ginger Baker playing helicopter drums[/URL]
I guess I'm "pansexual" because I don't care much for gender, so long as you're of good mind and heart
hello venom
welcome to the gayest family on the planet
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;47219252]I keep clicking accidentally the unsubscribe button while navigating on my phone and then I always forget to resub. This site on phone is horrendous :v:[/QUOTE]
I just use the 'read threads' button at the top of facepunch, and click 'mark unread' button on threads to unsubscribe.
[QUOTE=Demache;47219351]How do you keep clicking it? I can barely tell its there half the time.[/QUOTE]
I navigate with my dick. My dick is not always hard and thus, I mis-click at the times.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;47220775]I navigate with my dick. My dick is not always hard and thus, I mis-click at the times.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1453300]recharge your phone, and use it more accurately at the same time![/url]
[QUOTE=MaddaCheeb;47218225]Welp, going to Portland for a few months for my job. Maybe this will be a new start for me. I've just been feeling dragged down at home lately, among other serious problems.[/QUOTE]
Where are you moving from?
I fucking love portland. Say what you want about the pretentiousness, its a beautiful city in a beautiful part of the country. And no sales tax! Colorado and Oregon are my two dream states to live in.
I suppose the main problem is the idea that he's not being himself? At age 14 I'd tend to expect a bit of emotional fluctuation. I would think the main thing would be to just ride it out with him, rather than doing something potentially destructive like taking him out of school. That kind of move just seems like it'd result in resentment and feelings of rejection. As long as he feels like he's accepted by you and your mother for whatever he is, I reckon he'll eventually come back.
Trying to 'change him back' will just force him away, and he'll cling to whatever acceptance he can find, which could be in the arms of his new group of friends. And, if he really is forcing a change in himself for these people, he'll just be encouraged to change himself more, for the people who accept him when his family do not (to his perception at least).
So I'd just make it clear you like him however he is. Keep it casual and see past his changes. Find some way to just make him aware of the fact you're on his side whatever he chooses to do, so that he finds emotional security in the right people; ie you. Because it's far easier to be yourself if the people you rely on for comfort are willing to accept all of you, rather than letting him find comfort in people who are liable to reject him if he wants to change himself.
So even if you think he's faking something, just accept his change. Just be like "You have a mohawk now? Cool. And you're into reggae-core? Nice, as long as you don't play it too loud; I need to work". If those things aren't who he is, he won't feel bad about ditching them down the line, as long as you make it clear that, no matter how he chooses to dress or act, you love him unconditionally.
People need that security. Making him feel uncomfortable for his choices will only make things worse for him.
Even if he doesn't recognise immediately that you're there and you accept him, maybe he will eventually see it.
[QUOTE=KorJax;47221077]Where are you moving from?
I fucking love portland. Say what you want about the pretentiousness, its a beautiful city in a beautiful part of the country. And no sales tax! Colorado and Oregon are my two dream states to live in.[/QUOTE]
Utah. I have been to portland before and I love it. I think I might be able to finally iron out my stress down there.
[QUOTE=Booker K;47221093]I've been getting really concerned about my fourteen year old brother lately. Ever since like last year or so he's been hanging out with a specific group of friends or something idk, and he's been slowly progressing into becoming like them instead of himself. I mean like, he started growing out his hair, wearing emo like clothing, and doing a bunch of other things his friends are also doing. This year he started to do more extreme things with his friends like going around at random people claiming that he's gay and feminine and then joined some gay alliance club at his school to support it or whatever. Its gotten so bad that some of my mom's friends and relatives from outside have been starting to avoid us, and my mom's gotten to the point where she's sick of him not being himself and thinking of pulling him out of public school next year and so until he starts being himself. My mom is okay if my brother wants to be gay or whatever and do what he likes and I'm cool with it as well, but he makes it look like he's actually not and just doing it for the sake of attention so he feels 'equal'.
Do you guys have any thoughts or comments regarding this, if this makes sense? I'm entirely not sure what I should do about it.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why you would want to "pretend" to be gay for the sake of attention. I mean people go through phases and styles and all that stuff, maybe he's just trying to find himself?
[QUOTE=Booker K;47221093]I've been getting really concerned about my fourteen year old brother lately. Ever since like last year or so he's been hanging out with a specific group of friends or something idk, and he's been slowly progressing into becoming like them instead of himself. I mean like, he started growing out his hair, wearing emo like clothing, and doing a bunch of other things his friends are also doing. This year he started to do more extreme things with his friends like going around at random people claiming that he's gay and feminine and then joined some gay alliance club at his school to support it or whatever. Its gotten so bad that some of my mom's friends and relatives from outside have been starting to avoid us, and my mom's gotten to the point where she's sick of him not being himself and thinking of pulling him out of public school next year and so until he starts being himself. My mom is okay if my brother wants to be gay or whatever and do what he likes and I'm cool with it as well, but he makes it look like he's actually not and just doing it for the sake of attention so he feels 'equal'.
Do you guys have any thoughts or comments regarding this, if this makes sense? I'm entirely not sure what I should do about it.[/QUOTE]
Teto and GhostProject are pretty spot on. I have some resources for you like [URL="http://theparentsproject.com/ten-things-not-to-say-when-your-kid-comes-out/"]this particular page[/URL] of [URL="http://theparentsproject.com/"]this really good website[/URL]. Specifically number 4 and number 10. I'm gonna copy number four here because it's p. good (in relation to "until he starts being himself"):
[QUOTE]4. “This is just a phase.”
What if it is? Only time or a really expensive psychic will tell. But when your child was going through other phases, like teething or tantrums or obsessions with Ninja Turtles, did the knowledge that this was “just a phase” soothe their longing, pain, or determination to live by their own values? Imagine squatting to a toddler’s level while she screams and kicks because water is wet. Now imagine saying, “Honey, this is just a phase.” The sentence only helps those who are hoping for its truth. You may not be ready to another possibility (that it may not be a phase at all), but wishing out loud won’t make it so.[/QUOTE]
Whilst the page is called what not to say, it can just as equally be called "what not to tell yourself"
Also [URL="http://theparentsproject.com/7-things-that-did-not-turn-your-kid-gay/"]this page.[/URL] (numbers 1, 5 and 6).
[QUOTE]1. Their Friends. We know, we know. You kid started hanging out with some different people and that coincided with them coming out to you as gay… so by scientific principle it must be the fault of those other kids. First problem here: this isn’t the “fault” of anyone, because there isn’t anything wrong with your kid discovering a part of their identity. Second problem here: Kids don’t turn other kids gay. Suuuure, maybe kids make-out with each other, and perhaps that making-out led your kid to realize something about themselves… but your kid being attracted to a particular gender of person isn’t something they can be “tricked” into. We promise.[/QUOTE]
Always remember going back to the first quote I put though, it might actually be a phase. But that's just something that will upset your brother and make you feel better about the whole thing. Just work on making sure he's taking the right approach.
This also doesn't just apply to being gay. It applies to his choice of clothes. It applies to his friends. These are his choices for the most part.
Another page on this website [URL="http://theparentsproject.com/when-parents-interfere-with-friendships/"]is this one[/URL] (in reference to your mother's friends and relatives avoiding her).
Do some digging! You'll find you can apply a lot of your questions here and get answers. You can even literally send in your questions and get answers.
[editline]27th February 2015[/editline]
I tried to edit this to bold the sentence but it just shows a blank page which sucks.
[B]This also doesn't just apply to being gay. It applies to his choice of clothes. It applies to his friends.[/B]
Look up heteronormative as well, your bro is challenging that and that's not a bad thing. Before you confront him about obnoxious behaviour, make sure you know what is obnoxious and what is actually ok and not harming anyone.
Was told today that thanks to the Government we have (the fucking cockhead Tony Abbott that has made our government a laughing stock to everyone else) decided to make work for the dole mandatory no matter what you do for people my age.
I've decided to make use of the councilors at my campus as well. Since it doesn't cost me anything hopefully it will do good to talk about some of the shit I keep ignoring. First appointment is on Monday so I'm looking forward to it.
[QUOTE=Booker K;47222531]Thanks for the responses you guys, thinking about it, yeah he's still at that age where he's going through phases and trying to find his lifestyle and such. I'll accept the way he currently is and see if he'll go through any more changes, then decide whether things are getting better or not. I have a very loving and caring family, and we'd hate for my brother to fall under a terrible influence that would ruin his life. So yeah, we'll just see what happens in the upcoming months. Thanks again, guys.[/QUOTE]
My biggest question is how are you equating things like changing his clothing style and joining a gay-straight alliance to things that might ruin his life?
[QUOTE=Booker K;47222531]Thanks for the responses you guys, thinking about it, yeah he's still at that age where he's going through phases and trying to find his lifestyle and such. I'll accept the way he currently is and see if he'll go through any more changes, then decide whether things are getting better or not. I have a very loving and caring family, and we'd hate for my brother to fall under a terrible influence that would ruin his life. So yeah, we'll just see what happens in the upcoming months. Thanks again, guys.[/QUOTE]
I guess you're in the US based on flag dog right? I'd say go with your mum to [URL="http://community.pflag.org/"]PFLAG[/URL] alone, without your brother. Ask every single question you possibly have to them. Ask if what you're doing is going to help prevent the possible bad influences on his life.
If you do anything for your brother do that. And listen to what they say. Then keep going back to PFLAG and get involved with it directly, go to events you can all go together with. If you can't go in person or they're too far away, email, organise a phone or skype call, put the phone on speaker with you and your mum and ask the questions that way. Make sure you bring up what you guys's solution is and ask if that's going to help. I think what you'll find is they'll have a much better solution for you.
[QUOTE=Booker K;47221093]I've been getting really concerned about my fourteen year old brother lately. Ever since like last year or so he's been hanging out with a specific group of friends or something idk, and he's been slowly progressing into becoming like them instead of himself. I mean like, he started growing out his hair, wearing emo like clothing, and doing a bunch of other things his friends are also doing. This year he started to do more extreme things with his friends like going around at random people claiming that he's gay and feminine and then joined some gay alliance club at his school to support it or whatever. Its gotten so bad that some of my mom's friends and relatives from outside have been starting to avoid us, and my mom's gotten to the point where she's sick of him not being himself and thinking of pulling him out of public school next year and so until he starts being himself. My mom is okay if my brother wants to be gay or whatever and do what he likes and I'm cool with it as well, but he makes it look like he's actually not and just doing it for the sake of attention so he feels 'equal'.
Do you guys have any thoughts or comments regarding this, if this makes sense? I'm entirely not sure what I should do about it.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he's actually gay and is emulating a group of people he's found to be accepting of him? Because, no offense, it sounds like his family sure isn't accepting.
[QUOTE=Booker K;47222531]-snip-[/QUOTE]
Why the snip?
The problem is that you say you equate whether things are "better" by how much he changes, and more importantly, based on innocent things like dress code.
Ok so I spent some time talking with Booker K. I'm proably not the best for it. He got a little frustrated when everyone started picking him up on the problems with what he'd posted hence the snip etc..
He's going to listen to his brother and become his brother's ally not his enemy and hopefully they'll both convince his mother to let him go to public school. Still some work to be done.
He acknowledges now that he framed things here poorly and that really, after a long conversation, the problems are basically everything [I]but[/I] his brother.
He's understandably a little put out by the fact that even though he meant well he could actually be doing more damage than good. He's gonna work on that too.
I think he did well by coming here rather than letting things go on their original path.
I saw something really weird today. I got off early so I went to check the train timetable. I had 20 minutes before the next train so I walked to a shopping center to waste time.
There was a guy walking around in a high vis vest who was shouting at himself, but not angrily. Just like talking to himself really loud. Then he started singing 'See my Vest' from The Simpsons, also really loudly.
This place is full of weird people.
[url]http://www.vice.com/en_se/video/gay-conversion-therapy-part-1-195[/url]
this is so bizarre
[QUOTE=gerbe1;47223163]Ok so I spent some time talking with Booker K. I'm proably not the best for it. He got a little frustrated when everyone started picking him up on the problems with what he'd posted hence the snip etc..
He's going to listen to his brother and become his brother's ally not his enemy and hopefully they'll both convince his mother to let him go to public school. Still some work to be done.
He acknowledges now that he framed things here poorly and that really, after a long conversation, the problems are basically everything [I]but[/I] his brother.
He's understandably a little put out by the fact that even though he meant well he could actually be doing more damage than good. He's gonna work on that too.
I think he did well by coming here rather than letting things go on their original path.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I want to be clear that I don't think you're like, a bad dude or anything. It's hard to look at a situation objectively when you're emotionally involved, which is why so many reasonable people make unwise decisions, in my mind.
Advice Shiba strikes again. He's got shades and a coat so you know he's legit
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