• Do You Think There Will Be Any Legendary Albums Made Again?
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[QUOTE=Not Akayz;29674022]Case and point[/QUOTE] It hasn't sold a million copies yet. It will take a long time for people to get it.
Look who's going to be buying a shitload of copies of Crack The Skye then. :mmmsmug:
Wasn't really revolutionary anyway. It was a good refinement of a few different forms of metal, but nothing spectacular or immensely new.
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[QUOTE=AK'z;29674112]Get the hell out, Akayz. :smug:[/QUOTE] Get the hell out, Reset Panda. :smug:
[QUOTE=Not Akayz;29674124]Get the hell out, Reset Panda. :smug:[/QUOTE] :ms:
Also, I don't really believe that another 'Legendary' album as you would define it will ever come out. Music isn't centralized like it was in the past. Control isn't exerted by the few syndicated radio stations, people have the Internet to find their own music, and can remain mostly in isolation from the mainstream consciousness of music. Without some sort of central industry force, I don't really believe that another overall, mainstream revolution will come about. There will be genre-specific legendary albums, such as Loveless was for Shoegaze. But I don't think there will be any music-industry-defining albums.
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[QUOTE=Kagrenak;29674170]Also, I don't really believe that another 'Legendary' album as you would define it will ever come out. Music isn't centralized like it was in the past. Control isn't exerted by the few syndicated radio stations, people have the Internet to find their own music, and can remain mostly in isolation from the mainstream consciousness of music. Without some sort of central industry force, I don't really believe that another overall, mainstream revolution will come about. There will be genre-specific legendary albums, such as Loveless was for Shoegaze. But I don't think there will be any music-industry-defining albums.[/QUOTE] You're probably right. But electronic music will evolve into a dominating genre. Give it 10 or 20 years.
I think if there's ever going to be another classic album it will be by Muse. I'll update if I can think of any more.
[QUOTE=AK'z;29674214]You're probably right. But electronic music will evolve into a dominating genre. Give it 10 or 20 years.[/QUOTE] Yes but the way I see your argument being framed is that the catalyst would be one or two albums that gets a huge transition to occur, I strongly disagree with that. (Wow, I'm the only one who voted no...)
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;29674245]Yes but the way I see your argument being framed is that the catalyst would be one or two albums that gets a huge transition to occur, I strongly disagree with that. (Wow, I'm the only one who voted no...)[/QUOTE] I probably should've voted no, but I don't really want to be pesamistic.
So how long does an album need to be around for it to be considered "Legendary"? Because I could probably name a few albums from the last 10 years that have been pretty revolutionary. For example: [img]http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/justice_cross_cover.jpg[/img] IMO when their new album is released it will re-kindle interest in Cross and people who didn't hear it before will go back and buy it.
Voted No because nothing interesting is happening at the moment. I see no reason why something legendary couldn't happen again in the future, but it won't be any time soon.
[QUOTE=Ardren;29675653]Voted No because nothing interesting is happening at the moment. [/QUOTE] This is just wrong.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;29675792]This is just wrong.[/QUOTE] I meant there's nothing that interests me. Sorry, should've made that clear.
[QUOTE=Ardren;29675653]Voted No because nothing interesting is happening at the moment. I see no reason why something legendary couldn't happen again in the future, but it won't be any time soon.[/QUOTE] Woah woah hold your unicorns! If you can't find anything interesting, you just haven't looked enough. Or you're just restricting yourself to one genre too much.
[QUOTE=kirderf;29676041]Woah woah hold your unicorns! If you can't find anything interesting, you just haven't looked enough. Or you're just restricting yourself to one genre too much.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean it quite like that. There's a load of recent music that I guess I find "interesting", but none of it is mind-blowing. I've been trying to listen to a load of genres that I wouldn't normally listen to lately, and while I can appreciate that it's good music, it doesn't amaze me.
[QUOTE=Ardren;29676161]I didn't mean it quite like that. There's a load of recent music that I guess I find "interesting", but none of it is mind-blowing. I've been trying to listen to a load of genres that I wouldn't normally listen to lately, and while I can appreciate that it's good music, it doesn't amaze me.[/QUOTE] Try this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vATEixRBsh0[/media] /me trying to get MMW more known
To be honest I don't think we'll know at the time, surely something earns it's status as legendary by fundamentally changing something about how we perceive music, and I doubt any of us have the power of foresight to see how albums released now will affect music in the future.
[QUOTE=AK'z;29673540]A landmark that is timeless and has a big effect on the industry and artists as a whole. [/QUOTE] Well then, fuck yeah there are going to be new legendary albums.
I think Alan Cross summed it up pretty well: [release]We’ll never see another phenomenon like Nirvana again. Back in 1991–pre-Internet, pre-MySpace, pre-Facebook, pre-iTunes, pre-YouTube, pre-Google, pre-BitTorrent, pre-Napster–music was tightly controlled by the major labels. It was distributed through a narrow pipe of radio stations, video channels and record stores. The result was an artificial scarcity of music. The upside of this for both the label and the artist is that this often created times of consensus, when vast tracts of the public agreed “This song/album/band is good.” Today, all the old ways have been disintermediated. Thanks to all the tools the Internet provides, bands can connect directly with fans and vice versa. The downside to this is that everyone becomes their own seeker, researcher and provider for music on whatever terms he/she chooses. Rather than waiting for your favourite song to appear on the radio or on TV, you can just go out and get it whenever you want. What’s more is that you can go out and get ANY song anytime you want wherever you happen to be, often for free. If every individual has that power, then the idea of mass consensus breaks down. The good news? We can access more music than we ever dreamed possible on terms that verges on science fiction. The bad news? Artists will never sell albums in the quantities they used to.[/release] If you don't know who Alan Cross is, he's a radio personality in Toronto, ON. He runs the site [url]http://exploremusic.com[/url] and has a weekly radio show entitled The Ongoing History of New Music, which is really interesting. Used to be the boss at 102.1 The Edge radio station.
[QUOTE=kirderf;29676283]Try this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vATEixRBsh0[/media] /me trying to get MMW more known[/QUOTE] This is really good. Listening to Uninvisible on Spotify. I guess I was wrong about nothing interesting happening at the moment. I still don't think anything "legendary" is going to happen any time soon.
[QUOTE=Ardren;29676995]This is really good. Listening to Uninvisible on Spotify. I guess I was wrong about nothing interesting happening at the moment. I still don't think anything "legendary" is going to happen any time soon.[/QUOTE] Remember that a bunch of their albums are not on Spotify.
[QUOTE=GodKing;29676983]I think Alan Cross summed it up pretty well: [release]We’ll never see another phenomenon like Nirvana again. Back in 1991–pre-Internet, pre-MySpace, pre-Facebook, pre-iTunes, pre-YouTube, pre-Google, pre-BitTorrent, pre-Napster–music was tightly controlled by the major labels. It was distributed through a narrow pipe of radio stations, video channels and record stores. The result was an artificial scarcity of music. The upside of this for both the label and the artist is that this often created times of consensus, when vast tracts of the public agreed “This song/album/band is good.” Today, all the old ways have been disintermediated. Thanks to all the tools the Internet provides, bands can connect directly with fans and vice versa. The downside to this is that everyone becomes their own seeker, researcher and provider for music on whatever terms he/she chooses. Rather than waiting for your favourite song to appear on the radio or on TV, you can just go out and get it whenever you want. What’s more is that you can go out and get ANY song anytime you want wherever you happen to be, often for free. If every individual has that power, then the idea of mass consensus breaks down. The good news? We can access more music than we ever dreamed possible on terms that verges on science fiction. The bad news? Artists will never sell albums in the quantities they used to.[/release] If you don't know who Alan Cross is, he's a radio personality in Toronto, ON. He runs the site [url]http://exploremusic.com[/url] and has a weekly radio show entitled The Ongoing History of New Music, which is really interesting. Used to be the boss at 102.1 The Edge radio station.[/QUOTE] That's referring more to landmark albums in terms of a shift in popularity, not albums in terms of artistic achievement. Looking at it from the perspective of the evolving music industry then perhaps he's right, but from the flipside the degradation of record label's value in the music industry can do nothing but breed progress and expansion. I guess if you view a Legendary album as a true work of genius which sold well then maybe there won't be any more, but personally I wouldn't
I didn't like dark side of the moon
The way I see music is like the economy, we'll have shit spells ad we'll have booms.
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;29675556]So how long does an album need to be around for it to be considered "Legendary"? Because I could probably name a few albums from the last 10 years that have been pretty revolutionary. For example: [img_thumb]http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/justice_cross_cover.jpg[/img_thumb] IMO when their new album is released it will re-kindle interest in Cross and people who didn't hear it before will go back and buy it.[/QUOTE] Despite popular belief, it's not that popular.
I don't know what it is. I think it has something to do with electronic music, though.
[QUOTE=Checkers;29678511]I didn't like dark side of the moon[/QUOTE] There will be legendary albums that not all will get. It's tough to get used to "having to know" what it's about. [editline]8th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Hakita;29683903]I don't know what it is. I think it has something to do with electronic music, though.[/QUOTE] I'm rethinking stuff. Seeing as legendary albums like Trans Europe Express are there, and they're ancient. But still timeless as electronic music.
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