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[editline]13th October 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42505422]If this guy is still working with kids I think you really ought to go to someone about him
Investigative journalists love this kind of shit if you can get other former students to talk about what happened[/QUOTE]
Y'know I might contact a few people on facebook and see if I can get stories from them.
So I contacted a lot of former classmates, and they said they'd help me further document what happend. Fill in the blanks with the things I've missed, both before I joined his class, and after he left to teach Kung Fu.
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You haven't posted part 6 here yet, but it was really noticeable how you and the other handicapped kid didn't break character at the curtain call. Was that, uh...intentional? From what you've said though, it seemed like you were one of the ones that didn't have as hard a time distinguishing character from reality as others.
Not to say it wasn't difficult, I'm sure. This whole thing sounds disturbing as hell.
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Yeah, I never got as deep into character as some of the other actors did. Thankfully. But we didn't break character until after the bows because...I dunno. It was just something we did.
That's the end of Imaginary. If I can find a blank DVD I'll throw up 12 Angry Men as well.
the fact that you used one of my favorite tracks of the Sh2 OST is my favorite part of this story by [I]far[/I]
[QUOTE=Hoboiam;42509839]Yeah, I never got as deep into character as some of the other actors did. Thankfully. But we didn't break character until after the bows because...I dunno. It was just something we did.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see. I figured it wasn't too unheard of, I'm not too familiar with theatre/plays/musicals/etc. That particular bit just seems extra unsettling when you take everything else into account.
(As a side note the use of the intro to We Laugh Indoors by Death Cab places this somewhere in the area of 2001-02? so at most about twelve or thirteen years ago. Man.)
[QUOTE=fauxpark;42510269]Ah, I see. I figured it wasn't too unheard of, I'm not too familiar with theatre/plays/musicals/etc. That particular bit just seems extra unsettling when you take everything else into account.
(As a side note the use of the intro to We Laugh Indoors by Death Cab places this somewhere in the area of 2001-02? so at most about twelve or thirteen years ago. Man.)[/QUOTE]
I'd say 2005-2008. Imaginary happened in 2007 I think.
[QUOTE=Hoboiam;42510317]I'd say 2005-2008. Imaginary happened in 2007 I think.[/QUOTE]
Really? Wow, I didn't realise people still used VHS then - I'm assuming that's what these videos are from. It makes it look very late 90s/early 00s.
[QUOTE=fauxpark;42510370]Really? Wow, I didn't realise people still used VHS then - I'm assuming that's what these videos are from. It makes it look very late 90s/early 00s.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha we make due with what we have. If I were you, I'd be more surprised that we still have the fuckin' thing.
Oh, it was school equipment. Of course :v:
EDIT: That makes his comment in Operation Now that it's being "professionally recorded" kind of amusing.
congratulations on making it out of hell, op
This is easily the most fucked up first hand story I've ever read on FP. I'm sorry man, glad that you're back to normal and okay.
that was pretty good
Quite a read. Like Jesus Christ, that was nuts.
Can I also emphasize that I'm a much better actor now than I was in 8th grade? :v: Watching my Imaginary performance is embarrassing, and I contemplated not even posting it haha
Most of the people he "fucked up" (yourself included) sound a little impressionable and messed up to begin with. If you aren't capable of recognizing someone with a second agenda then you're fucked for real life anyway.
Also sounds like BS and you could have walked out at any time.. The guy doesn't sound abusive or nuts, he just sounds like an idiot with an agenda.
[QUOTE=Downsider;42513444]Most of the people he "fucked up" (yourself included) sound a little impressionable and messed up to begin with. If you aren't capable of recognizing someone with a second agenda then you're fucked for real life anyway.
Also sounds like BS and you could have walked out at any time.. The guy doesn't sound abusive or nuts, he just sounds like an idiot with an agenda.[/QUOTE]
Of course you can say this now, as an adult who hasn't been in such a situation. But if you watch any video I posted with Smith talking in it, you'll see how well spoken and respectful he is, and how he COMMANDS your attention. It's not hard to find yourself wanting to impress someone you look up to. Things just snowballed from there.
I do not disagree with you that most of the students didn't already have problems. Who didn't going through puberty? But what Mr. Smith did was present to us a family setting, a place where we could vent all of what we were feeling, and get recognition for it. He gave us the opportunity to change peoples lives doing what we love, and we followed him.
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That's a convo I had with a former student last night. Even that should show you the effect he had on some students. It's not just my word saying that he was a monster.
If you think what he did wasn't abusive or nuts, I'm not sure what to tell you, dude. I'm just telling my own story, which you can chose to believe or not.
[QUOTE=Downsider;42513444]Most of the people he "fucked up" (yourself included) sound a little impressionable and messed up to begin with. If you aren't capable of recognizing someone with a second agenda then you're fucked for real life anyway.
Also sounds like BS and you could have walked out at any time.. The guy doesn't sound abusive or nuts, he just sounds like an idiot with an agenda.[/QUOTE]
1) They were young middeschoolers
2) He has ungodly charisma as shown
3) He was a highly respected teacher among the students before this
4) Im sure you were there and are fully capable of calling his story BS with evidence
Here's some other people chiming in.
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I was going to compliment you for a story well written but then it occurred to me that this might actually be real?
ugh I'm so confused
This is a well written story. Kudos to you. Also I like how you are involving the people on this forum in it, I must say what gave it all away was the very artificial looking and sounding Facebook chat logs. It plays out like a well rehearsed play or novel, thus in my opinion making it unbelievable.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;42514976]This is a well written story. Kudos to you. Also I like how you are involving the people on this forum in it, I must say what gave it all away was the very artificial looking and sounding Facebook chat logs. It plays out like a well rehearsed play or novel, thus in my opinion making it unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
Y'know I like that you said this. The whole "it's too good to be true" makes me happy. I don't really know how to persuade you otherwise, but I'll try.
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That's pretty much the format of message I sent. I sent one to everybody I knew that was in Drama at TJH (Taylor Junior High, which is why Madisons message might sound a little weird with the whole "he changed after he left Taylor" line.)
Over to the side you can see just how many people I messaged. All in all I asked 30 people. Now I messaged them last night, well before peeps started calling me out on stuff, which I hope might help my case.
And...well, I mean I already posted the plays on youtube, I don't really know what else I can say or show to prove my case.
You left a name uncensored in the bottom right corner, if you want to block that off too.
I dont care about her, she can wait til i get home
[QUOTE=Hoboiam;42516062]I dont care about her, she can wait til i get home[/QUOTE]
Do you still do theatre OP?
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;42516130]Do you still do theatre OP?[/QUOTE]
I did theater all through highschool. Wrote/directed my own plays that won a few awards, and acted in two of the major productions. Those being Cash On Delivery and Joseph And The Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Both of those plays won best in state, allowing us to perform at a local Thespian Conference in front of 2000 other actors. There wasn't a time during curtain call that I didn't cry at Thespian, because it was 2000 of my peers, people who have the same passions I do, and every single one of them is standing on their feet screaming their fucking minds off.
I had groupies. A girl yelled her phone number at me. I'm not joking.
Joseph did so well that we actually sold out an ACTUAL theater. Not just our highschool theater, we took it to a legitimate, full-sized 1600 seat capacity theater, and sold out three nights in a row. It was a big deal.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhltVtxiJyY&list=FLKFmQNo9j7STuYuykfh84LA&index=47[/media]
I chestbump a dude at 0:43.
Joseph, if I remember correctly, was in the top five for best plays nationally, but we did walk away with best Ensemble in the entire united states. I was actually voted best ensemble member by my peers, so I like to brag about that all the time to people who don't give a shit. (LIKE YOU)
In college I played The Wall in Midsummer Nights Dream, where I was one of only two students from that school selected by a judge to audition for scholarships at the KCACTF acting festival up in Ogden, Utah. I got knocked out the first round.
We also took a play up there for national judging, the play was called The Bald Soprano by Eugene Ionesco, and I played the fire chief, who has lines like:
[quote]FIRE CHIEF: "The Head cold." My brother-in law had, on the paternal side, a first cousin whose maternal uncle had a father-in-law whose paternal grandfather had married as his second wife a young native whose brother he had met on one of his travels, a girl of whom he was enamored and by whom he had a son who married an intrepid lady pharmacist who was none other than the niece of an unknown fourth-class petty officer of the Royal Navy and whose adopted father had an aunt who spoke Spanish fluently and who was, perhaps, one of the granddaughters of an engineer who died young, himself the grandson of the owner of a vineyard which produced mediocre wine, but who had a second cousin, a stay-at-home, a sergeant-major, whose son had married a very pretty young woman, a divorcee, whose first husband was the son of a loyal patriot who, in the hope of making his fortune, had managed to bring up one of his daughters so that she could marry a footman who had known Rothschild, and whose brother, after having changed his trade several times, married and had a daughter whose stunted great-grandfather wore spectacles which had been given him by a cousin of his, the brother-in-law of a man from Portugal, natural son of a miller, not too badly off, whose foster-brother had married the daughter of a former country doctor, who was himself a foster-brother of the son of a forrester, himself the natural son of another country doctor, married three times in a row, whose third wife...
MR. MARTIN: I knew that third wife, if I'm not mistaken. She ate chicken sitting on a hornet's nest.
FIRE CHIEF: It's not the same one.
MRS. SMITH: Shh!
FIRE CHIEF: As I was saying... whose third wife was the daughter of the best midwife in the region and who, early left a widow...
MR. SMITH: Like my wife.
FIRE CHIEF:... Had married a glazier who was full of life and who had had, by the daughter of a station master, a child who had burned his bridges...
MRS. SMITH: His britches?
MR. MARTIN: No his bridge game.
FIRE CHIEF: And had married an oyster woman, whose father had a brother, mayor of a small town, who had taken as his wife a blonde schoolteacher, whose cousin, a fly fisher-man...
MR. MARTIN: A fly by night?
FIRE CHIEF: Had married another blonde schoolteacher, named Marie, too, whose brother was married to another Marie, also a blonde schoolteacher...
MR. SMITH: Since she's blonde, she must be Marie.
FIRE CHIEF:... And whose father had been reared in Canada by an old woman who was the niece of a priest whose grandmother, occasionally in the winter, like everyone else, caught a cold.
MRS. SMITH: A curious story. Almost unbelievable. [/quote]
I dropped out of college after that semester. Life just got in the way, and I haven't acted in anything or written a play since. I really, really want to get back on stage, though.
That... Was very interesting to read. Good story OP.
I went to bed with my phone just to 'read that huge thread someone made on fp'
Stayed up till 2 in the morning even though i had to get up at 7, damn you :v:
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[/B]I'd totally read an entire book about this
Read this yesterday. Honestly, Hoboiam, your writing style isn't bad at all. To me, it was very similar that something Chuck Palahnuik (Fight Club) would write, and I love his style.
On the actual material, that's just beyond fucked up.
Why the hell were you doing all these crazy-ass plays in middle school?
And in my town if we had a situation like that the dude would be fireD or have the crap kicked out of him
Moral of the story is: be a normal kid and just play sports
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