Lol, I've been where they went.
It was quite pleasant.
[QUOTE=scout1;36660708]It's a nice documentary, but has several skewed facts (probably for good reason). Firstly - Dirty bombs CAN have their irradiation decontaminated, by their very construction. They will often use a filler material to disperse the radiation (e.g. sand). Secondly, the method of delivery is difficult. I mean, assuming you got it past national borders in the first place. The radioactive material on a dirty bomb is difficult to spread. It's basically a conventional explosive surrounded/packed in with radiated material. This means you'll need to disperse it above a city or area of choosing, and that requires a delivery method. It can be airdropped, or propelled by rocket, but then it requires sophisticated systems to get it to detonate at the right altitude and wind direction to spread effectively. Even then, the deaths actually wouldn't be at the order of thousands, as he so said. It's POSSIBLE to die directly from the bomb by inhaling a large, uneven concentration of it, or rolling around in the radioactive material (i.e. sand), or something silly like that, but most, if any, deaths would come from the panic. The utility of such a weapon is not death - It's just fucking annoying. It costs a lot of money to relocate a city of people, hose down the entire city (every nook and cranny, really), and then move them back in. Not to mention the financial effects of the speculative market when they hear a "NUCLEAR DEVICE" detonated over new york or something.
Regardless, I'm not entirely sure WHAT weapon they actually showed in that video. It appears to be a shaped charge, but that is implausible given their lack of effectiveness in nuclear weapons (casaba howitzers and project orion being the exception). It's also too small to... well, have any real yield. It's theoretically possible to create a weapon that small (a 'nuclear hand grenade') by means of certain manmade elements, but these are impossible to create in sufficient quantity, and of absolutely no military use.
I'll trawl my documents and research, but I have honestly never seen any appreciable nuclear weapon (or detonator) of that size or shape. Honestly, I think that entire thing might be a decoy.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/e/e7/ST-NukeLauncher03A.jpg/500px-ST-NukeLauncher03A.jpg[/IMG]
Hard to deliver my ass.
Hmm, apparently no one thinks it looks like the Starship Troopers nuke.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36659962]it doesn't have to be the black market:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_3Qg-SADY[/media]
[editline]7th July 2012[/editline]
yep that's them buying guns to use on their own people, and we in the United States pay for it.
fucking hell[/QUOTE]
it's funny seeing products there made by the same guys who make ArmA
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;36661716]it's funny seeing products there made by the same guys who make ArmA[/QUOTE]
BIS=/=BIA
[QUOTE=scout1;36660708]It's a nice documentary, but has several skewed facts (probably for good reason). Firstly - Dirty bombs CAN have their irradiation decontaminated, by their very construction. They will often use a filler material to disperse the radiation (e.g. sand). Secondly, the method of delivery is difficult. I mean, assuming you got it past national borders in the first place. The radioactive material on a dirty bomb is difficult to spread. It's basically a conventional explosive surrounded/packed in with radiated material. This means you'll need to disperse it above a city or area of choosing, and that requires a delivery method. It can be airdropped, or propelled by rocket, but then it requires sophisticated systems to get it to detonate at the right altitude and wind direction to spread effectively. Even then, the deaths actually wouldn't be at the order of thousands, as he so said. It's POSSIBLE to die directly from the bomb by inhaling a large, uneven concentration of it, or rolling around in the radioactive material (i.e. sand), or something silly like that, but most, if any, deaths would come from the panic. The utility of such a weapon is not death - It's just fucking annoying. It costs a lot of money to relocate a city of people, hose down the entire city (every nook and cranny, really), and then move them back in. Not to mention the financial effects of the speculative market when they hear a "NUCLEAR DEVICE" detonated over new york or something.
Regardless, I'm not entirely sure WHAT weapon they actually showed in that video. It appears to be a shaped charge, but that is implausible given their lack of effectiveness in nuclear weapons (casaba howitzers and project orion being the exception). It's also too small to... well, have any real yield. It's theoretically possible to create a weapon that small (a 'nuclear hand grenade') by means of certain manmade elements, but these are impossible to create in sufficient quantity, and of absolutely no military use.
I'll trawl my documents and research, but I have honestly never seen any appreciable nuclear weapon (or detonator) of that size or shape. Honestly, I think that entire thing might be a decoy.[/QUOTE]
Alternatively you detonate it somewhere and then set a huge fire ontop of it and voila the smoke does the rest.
[QUOTE=Killuah;36663080]Alternatively you detonate it somewhere and then set a huge fire ontop of it and voila the smoke does the rest.[/QUOTE]
Most cities tend to have firefighting departments. I won't question the delivery method, I've never actually heard of that idea.
Not surprising at all, considering there are 3 missing Russian Suitcase Nukes from when the Soviet Union collapsed.
How much for one
These documentaries are awesome, I can't believe I haven't heard about this guy myself. This is what Discovery channel used to be like.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36659962]it doesn't have to be the black market:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_3Qg-SADY[/media]
[editline]7th July 2012[/editline]
yep that's them buying guns to use on their own people, and we in the United States pay for it.
fucking hell[/QUOTE]
That's no surprise, nearly every country has military expos. Hell, saw a few Nigerian generals at our own airshow/expo
This was shown on Facepunch around 2007.
It's concerning but nothing new.
Sounds like my kind of country.
I'm tired of the fact that nuke and dirty bomb are interchangeable in the media.
One destroys a huge swath of land. The other makes people sick and creates obnoxious clean up procedures.
You guys are fucking stupid if you believe this one bit.
To be honest, a nuclear weapon needs to be refined every so often. The USSR fell apart in 1991, which is getting close to more then two decades. The point is, if you dont have the equipment to keep the weapon refined and you dont want to use it right away- you are [B]walking with a giant fucking radioactive paperweight.[/B]
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;36662775]BIS=/=BIA[/QUOTE]
He meant VBS2
So is this as bullshit as that scopolamine documentary they did?
We're definitely going to blow ourselves up sooner or later.
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