[QUOTE=Spawndex;19501693]Uh, people in England speak English 'properly' because the language is from England so you're using England to judge everybody elses' use of the language. Did I mention England ?[/QUOTE]
Yay nationalism!
Australians can speak properly. Albeit with huge amounts of slang.
[QUOTE=Darkcoder;19501792]English = England, thus any dialects spoken outside are incorrect. That said, even in England there are a lot of incorrect pronunciations of various words, or even letters, people who say 'h' as 'haitch' rather than 'aitch' for instance.[/QUOTE]
It was developed by Anglo-Saxon and Norman colonizers of England, so it's not only from England, it's from Norse areas, Denmark, Germanic lands etc.
I read some kind of study at some point that said that well educated southern US people speak the closest language to true English.
so i heard those asians and latinos speak perfect english
[QUOTE=Linelor;19501838]I read some kind of study at some point that said that well educated southern US people speak the closest language to true English.[/QUOTE]
Which is where I live.
Canuck english is the best :colbert:
Wait no I actually don't give a fuck
American English is the best because we don't have worthless silent/stupid letters on the ends of our words, I mean seriously.
It's:
Arm Or, not Arm Our
Col Or, not Col Our
Hon Or, not Hon Our
Cent Er, not Cent Re (Sounds like Sentry if you say it Re instead of Er)
Program, not Programme
Etc
Say color and some of those other words and you won't hear anything close to a Our or a Re, you'll hear a Or or Er.
[QUOTE=Drcake;19501723]English is constantly changing, as it is not a dead language like Latin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;19501797]There is no correct way to speak English, as there was no point at which English was ever perfected.
It's an evolving language, and until it is dead it will always be spoken correctly (unless you don't understand the basic sounds associated with letters etc.)[/QUOTE]
This
im surprised no one brought this up
[img]http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/jayfootball72/EnglishMotherFuker.png[/img]
[QUOTE=justin gurel;19502031]im surprised no one brought this up
[img]http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/jayfootball72/EnglishMotherFuker.png[/img][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNlePuVM3Ic&feature=related[/media]
Whilst there are many regional dialects and accents in England, some of which can be almost unintelligible to other parts of England (Eg: the Yorkshire accent and dialect), I tihnk you might be referring to this:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation[/url]
Which is considered the 'educated' way of speaking. This is also how I speak naturally, so I suppose in answer to your question, I do speak english 'properly' in this sense.
Although only about 2% of Britons actually have this accent, sadly. :(
Some people over here still have a refined accent. I don't particularly (northern accent), but saying I don't speak English properly makes me feel like I'm doing it wrong.
[QUOTE=Penis Colada;19501541]British people tend to suck at their own language and spell everything wrong[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately that's because a lot of us brits are uneducated because we don't listen in classes.
It ashames me that more than 50% of brits can't actually read or write properly after they leave school.
Anyway, I'm one of those who was a natural at reading and writing and it sometimes irritates people that I'm always correcting them.
All I know is:
1) Fucking [I]nobody[/I] speaks properly, to be perfectly fair. There are some who are better than others, however
2) Americans bastardise things a further increment. In the media there is a large proportion who define cringe-as-fuck when it comes to flapping their gums. This sort of carry-on has become somewhat commonplace in the wider media, I hate it, and it is the aural equivalent of projectile diarrhoea. (this is not [I]all[/I] Americans, but the most exposed in the media)
FYI I am not American, or British. I'm from a small island in the Commonwealth, with speech qualifications useful in every country but my own (officially). These are just opinions
I don't think you can say that the English or Australians or even New Zealanders speak 'improper' English due to pronounciation. What you say about some English accents with their silent H sounds and F rather than TH is true for some - but it's not really the language they're getting wrong. It's just pronounciation. Also, it's not as if everybody speaks this way either - Australia has bogans who can barely sound out a word properly but you couldn't say that Australia as a whole can't speak English properly.
The only exception I'd make to that is the USA which systematically spells and pronounces certain words incorrectly.
Australia actually has very good pronunciation and dialect. Except for that really fucking annoying thing where people say "hach" instead of "'ach" when they say the letter H. You know what I mean
Colour
Done i speak english
As far as I'm concerned, the only one who can speak english is the Queen.
Except I hate when we Australians say "youse". Like "Youse kids better get in here and clean up your mess right now!!!!"
[QUOTE=kitthehacker;19502469]Australia actually has very good pronunciation and dialect. Except for that really fucking annoying thing where people say "hach" instead of "'ach" when they say the letter H. You know what I mean[/QUOTE]
Usually, we do. Generally we have the most 'flat' accent, when compared to NZ, Britain, USA and Canada. But you still do find those people with the really annoying whine in their voice.
I thought every English speaking country would have people that pronounce it 'haitch'.
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[QUOTE=Platinumcs;19502482]Except I hate when we Australians say "youse". Like "Youse kids better get in here and clean up your mess right now!!!!"[/QUOTE]
I don't really think that's an Australian thing either. That's almost like saying 'All US citizens say "y'all" a lot'.
Except that y'all probably is only used by people in the US.
[QUOTE=Faren;19501566]Because Australians, Canadians, Scotts, Irish and others don't exist.[/QUOTE]
yeah they dont stfu
[QUOTE=tankkiller;19502021]American English is the best because we don't have worthless silent/stupid letters on the ends of our words, I mean seriously.
It's:
Arm Or, not Arm Our
Col Or, not Col Our
Hon Or, not Hon Our
Cent Er, not Cent Re (Sounds like Sentry if you say it Re instead of Er)
Program, not Programme
Etc
Say color and some of those other words and you won't hear anything close to a Our or a Re, you'll hear a Or or Er.[/QUOTE]
This man, is a complete idiot, I don't usually get involved in these shitty little wars but this mans stupidity was too much for me to stay silent.
If you dislike silent letters so much, you should be say Onor, instead of Honor.
[QUOTE=Faren;19501566]Because Australians, Canadians, Scotts, Irish and others don't exist.[/QUOTE]
Obviously.
[QUOTE=Platinumcs;19502482]Except I hate when we Australians say "youse". Like "Youse kids better get in here and clean up your mess right now!!!!"[/QUOTE]
Pfft.
Only muzzas do that.
[QUOTE=Faunz;19502589]This man, is a complete idiot, I don't usually get involved in these shitty little wars but this mans stupidity was too much for me to stay silent.
If you dislike silent letters so much, you should be say Onor, instead of Honor.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about useless silent letters at the end of words that make them look stupid, not letters that should be at the beginning of words even if they're silent like H at the beginning of Honor.
English is really a dynamic language, very flexiable. Even than, what is correct sounds wrong.
None of these seats is farther than twenty-two feet
None of these seats are farther than twenty-two feet
Are sounds correct, but guess what? It's wrong. What the fuck is that about, it sounds just fine and gets the point across.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;19502864]English is really a dynamic language, very flexiable. Even than, what is correct sounds wrong.
None of these seats is farther than twenty-two feet
None of these seats are farther than twenty-two feet
Are sounds correct, but guess what? It's wrong. What the fuck is that about, it sounds just fine and gets the point across.[/QUOTE]
The first one sounds incredibly retarded.
[QUOTE=tankkiller;19502021]American English is the best because we don't have worthless silent/stupid letters on the ends of our words, I mean seriously.
It's:
Arm Or, not Arm Our
Col Or, not Col Our
Hon Or, not Hon Our
Cent Er, not Cent Re (Sounds like Sentry if you say it Re instead of Er)
Program, not Programme
Etc
Say color and some of those other words and you won't hear anything close to a Our or a Re, you'll hear a Or or Er.[/QUOTE]
I'm English-born Australian, yet I still spell all those kinds of words in American-English, it's just more logical.
i can write english and i can pronounce too, but it just sounds silly to me, it's not accent but it's my voice that makes it sound stupid
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