Crossdressing & Transgender & A̲L̲L̲I̲E̲S̲ Discussion v. Thread Reassignment Surgery - General

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49820474]I didn't bash drag queens at all. I don't care for them, but in the end I don't have a problem with them as a group. I do, however, have a problem with the fact that their culture ends up getting lumped up with trans culture so far as the media and the general population is concerned. You cannot deny the detrimental effect they have on public perceptions of trans people.[/QUOTE] There is a detrimental effect, but the mistake is in thinking it's their fault. It's the fault of ignorant people who don't know the difference. Instead of blaming the drag culture, it's better to blame the ignorance and try to teach people in order to get rid of it.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;49821884]There is a detrimental effect, but the mistake is in thinking it's their fault. It's the fault of ignorant people who don't know the difference. Instead of blaming the drag culture, it's better to blame the ignorance and try to teach people in order to get rid of it.[/QUOTE] I never said it was their fault

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49822494]I never said it was their fault[/QUOTE] I didn't mean you personally hun, I just mean in general. A lot of people tend to blame crossdressers and drag queens for the fault of ignorant people.

[t]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10314014_547833122054846_7486070498452969946_n.jpg?oh=48472d6426150b0892ef2613dfa480c0&oe=5767C961[/t] I got like spiked tops for my facial piercings. yay

On the one hand, I kind of want piercings and tattoos and shit. On the other hand, I don't feel like my face or body really suit it. [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] I don't know. In a dream world I'd be some sexy goth chick but I just really don't think the actual body I'm living in suits it, so I just stick to wearing somewhat heavy eyeliner.

[QUOTE=Judas;49819753]drag queens can drop the act and go live a normal, happy life drag queens don't get murdered all the time for being who they are drag queens perpetuate negative stereotypes about trans people that directly causes violence against them[/QUOTE] Dunno. Some of them live their normal lives in drag and it goes without saying that drag queens probably do meet some violence. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49812834]Minstrel shows mean no harm either[/QUOTE] Conservatives at the time hated them because they put a human face on black people.

also look at this weirdo [img]https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12790856_605050529651743_6391389026152466493_n.jpg?oh=40533b7cacef06c2416072f3db01424d&oe=57239D61[/img]

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;49811037]Aw poor Paige. It's so hard getting over some bullying that occurred 10 odd years ago when we were kids. Shit I've already regretted and apologized for. Poor Paige, the same Paige who decided to willingly have an affair with my ex-boyfriend while I was still with him, knowingly lying about it for 6 months, to a point where I had to learn from a mutual friend the truth which ruined my fucking life. Poor Paige, the one who I fucking /forgave/ after all the lying and cheating and tried being their friend. Poor Paige, the one who likes to be a big fucking drama queen over the stupidest of shit in video games and throwing fucking temper tantrums. Poor Paige, the one who stopped being my friend because I was the only one who stood up to her bullshit and convinced my ex to follow suit because he's a lemming. Poor Paige, the one who added me back to try and fix things only to see that every other word out of her mouth was "nigger" because racism is funny which I silently jumped ship on immediately without any drama. Yeah, I put her through the some shit alright. How fucking dare you make this some personal fucking vendetta against me. I fucking knew it too. You, her, and your fucking girlfriend always white knight and jump down my throat at any given moment you feel you have the chance too. Thanks for admitting it flat out to me. Now fuck right off and block me. Stop jumping down my throat any time you find me in a thread because you don't like me and grow the fuck up.[/QUOTE] hoooooooly shit, are you serious? you tried to get me killed lmao remember that? or how you mentally abused your bf to the point he tried killing himself 6 fucking times? lol don't try to fling shit at me when you've been so much worse go try to hire another hitman on me pls ty [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] >had an affair actually remember things correctly??? thanks.

do you guys know that PMs exist or steam, or skype or literally anywhere but here, shitting up the thread

[QUOTE=Paige;49828197]hoooooooly shit, are you serious? you tried to get me killed lmao remember that? or how you mentally abused your bf to the point he tried killing himself 6 fucking times? lol don't try to fling shit at me when you've been so much worse go try to hire another hitman on me pls ty [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] >had an affair actually remember things correctly??? thanks.[/QUOTE] posts like these are the reason i don't like coming to this thread much anymore in fact most of the trans people on facepunch i know don't bother coming here much at all anymore

Take your motherfucking drama elsewhere. Please. This thread is meant to help people, not turn them into complete assbags.

You guys being serious right now? Why are you discussing this on facepunch? What mindset does one have to be in to believe the CD/TG thread on facepunch seem like an appropriate medium to discuss what you two are discussing?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49828206]posts like these are the reason i don't like coming to this thread much anymore in fact most of the trans people on facepunch i know don't bother coming here much at all anymore[/QUOTE] i literally never come to this thread anymore unless im linked. why would I? its pointless drama. but i'm also not going to have someone who [B]TRIED TO HIRE A HITMAN TO KILL ME MULTIPLE TIMES [/B]fling shit at me like they're in the right lmao [QUOTE=Kyle902;49828218]You guys being serious right now? Why are you discussing this on facepunch? What mindset does one have to be in to believe the CD/TG thread on facepunch seem like an appropriate medium to discuss what you two are discussing?[/QUOTE] why is she allowed to make a giant post saying how horrible i am(supposedly, anyway.) but when I reply i'm in the wrong?

[QUOTE=Paige;49828224]i literally never come to this thread anymore unless im linked. why would I? its pointless drama. but i'm also not going to have someone who [B]TRIED TO HIRE A HITMAN TO KILL ME MULTIPLE TIMES [/B]fling shit at me like they're in the right lmao[/QUOTE] You're both in the wrong still. YOU could've brought it to pm's or some shit. THEY could simply have not posted inane personal drama period. The only possible reason I can ascertain is that both of you guys want the CD/TG facepunch to start bandwagoning the other person. And honestly if she tried to hire a hitman on you then you should be bringing that to the fucking police

[QUOTE=Paige;49828224]i literally never come to this thread anymore unless im linked. why would I? its pointless drama. but i'm also not going to have someone who [B]TRIED TO HIRE A HITMAN TO KILL ME MULTIPLE TIMES [/B]fling shit at me like they're in the right lmao[/quote] right but this isn't the thread to talk about your bizarre delusions or whatever its for people to talk about transgender stuff and crossdressing and related topics

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49828237]right but this isn't the thread to talk about your bizarre delusions or whatever its for people to talk about transgender stuff and crossdressing and related topics[/QUOTE] and more importantly so that we can give advice to people who genuinely need help. Toxic bullshit like this only serves to make everyone abandon the thread, including those who REALLY need someones help and don't know where to go. I can't tell you guys how many times I've seen people glance over someone practically begging for help so that they could post some inane drama or something.

okay, does anyone ever stop complaining? you (general you, not anyone specific) complain the second drama starts, you complain when it's a hugbox, you complain when no one posts, you complain when there's a crap load of new posts news flash: hormones are raging in this thread and drama is going to happen [i]way[/i] more than anywhere else and by drawing attention to it and saying "stop the drama!!!" you're literally only creating more drama. if you're honestly care that much shut up and ignore it

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49828247]and more importantly so that we can give advice to people who genuinely need help. Toxic bullshit like this only serves to make everyone abandon the thread, including those who REALLY need someones help and don't know where to go. I can't tell you guys how many times I've seen people glance over someone practically begging for help so that they could post some inane drama or something.[/QUOTE] I haven't been to this thread in ages because everytime I asked for help people ignored me so I just went into self-hate until I started having to take anti-depressants. As much as I'd like to post here, I what i took away from it that no one had any interest in my problems and instead socks were more interesting. I'm only here now because I've been discussing trans stuff elsewhere so I wanted to see if it had changed.

[QUOTE=biodude94566;49828255]okay, does anyone ever stop complaining? you (general you, not anyone specific) complain the second drama starts, you complain when it's a hugbox, you complain when no one posts, you complain when there's a crap load of new posts news flash: hormones are raging in this thread and drama is going to happen [i]way[/i] more than anywhere else and by drawing attention to it and saying "stop the drama!!!" you're literally only creating more drama. if you're honestly care that much shut up and ignore it[/QUOTE] I complain because no one wants to hear the same tired old drama. I complain because it happens so constantly that it makes people not want to go to this thread. I complain because PEOPLE COME HERE FOR HELP and they get ignored so you guys can start some spicy drama to get attention.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49828247]and more importantly so that we can give advice to people who genuinely need help. Toxic bullshit like this only serves to make everyone abandon the thread, including those who REALLY need someones help and don't know where to go. I can't tell you guys how many times I've seen people glance over someone practically begging for help so that they could post some inane drama or something.[/QUOTE] again i don't vist this thread anymore but when i used to i helped out multiple people, i tried to stop drama constantly, i understand what this thread is for, hell i made one of them. Sorry if I sound a bit miffed when people are rating her winner and shit for a giant fucking slander post about me that half of it isn't even fucking true. whatever tho, sorry for responding to drama.

[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;49828262]I haven't been to this thread in ages because everytime I asked for help people ignored me so I just went into self-hate until I started having to take anti-depressants. As much as I'd like to post here, I what i took away from it that no one had any interest in my problems and instead socks were more interesting. I'm only here now because I've been discussing trans stuff elsewhere so I wanted to see if it had changed.[/QUOTE] You're not the only one. I've had multiple people tell me this. I still post here because I actually do try and respond to and help people who need it. I'm sorry no one helped you specifically, that really is quite retarded. [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paige;49828267]again i don't vist this thread anymore but when i used to i helped out multiple people, i tried to stop drama constantly, i understand what this thread is for, hell i made one of them. Sorry if I sound a bit miffed when people are rating her winner and shit for a giant fucking slander post about me that half of it isn't even fucking true. whatever tho, sorry for responding to drama.[/QUOTE] Just drop the topic, thats all it takes. I'm sorry about how you feel, I'm sorry you got slandered, and I'm sorry if I sound insensitive but this drama gets so far out of hand its ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49828264]I complain because no one wants to hear the same tired old drama. I complain because it happens so constantly that it makes people not want to go to this thread. I complain because PEOPLE COME HERE FOR HELP and they get ignored so you guys can start some spicy drama to get attention.[/QUOTE] "constantly" it only [i]seems[/i] to happen that often because no one posts anything, so every three months or so when drama does occur and people post, it seems to be a way bigger proportion of the time. if people actually posted and maybe turned this into a general chat thread sort of thing with a focus on transgender related topics, then maybe when the drama came around it wouldn't seem so often. as for ignoring people who ask for help, how would it work in real life? if people are arguing and yelling at each other, and someone comes in and asks for help, how often would they stop arguing that instant and turn to help the person? hell, I was going to continue the drama earlier [i]until someone asked for help and I deemed that more important than the argument[/i]

[QUOTE=biodude94566;49828284]"constantly" it only [i]seems[/i] to happen that often because no one posts anything, so every three months or so when drama does occur and people post, it seems to be a way bigger proportion of the time. if people actually posted and maybe turned this into a general chat thread sort of thing with a focus on transgender related topics, then maybe when the drama came around it wouldn't seem so often.[/quote] My point is that it shouldn't be happening period. Thats not what this thread is for, and I'm absolutely flabberghasted that you're defending it. [quote] as for ignoring people who ask for help, how would it work in real life? if people are arguing and yelling at each other, and someone comes in and asks for help, how often would they stop arguing that instant and turn to help the person?[/quote] Those people shouldn't have been arguing [I]in the first place![/I] [quote] hell, I was going to continue the drama earlier [i]until someone asked for help and I deemed that more important than the argument[/i][/QUOTE] Congrats! You've replied to one person who's asked for help. Out of the dozens I've seen (including myself). [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] To rephrase, I understand the behavior. I don't think this thread should be the outlet for that behavior though.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;49828301]My point is that it shouldn't be happening period. Thats not what this thread is for, and I'm absolutely flabberghasted that you're defending it.[/quote] so you want it to be a hugbox and then everyone's going to complain because it's just a hugbox sorry but drama happens and there's unfortunately not a whole fucking lot you can do about it. especially with hormones and tensions running high [quote]Congrats! You've replied to one person who's asked for help. Out of the dozens I've seen (including myself).[/quote] I've seen it plenty myself and I'm sure I've ignored someone for the drama but I'll also admit I'm a bit bull-headed and won't back down [quote]To rephrase, I understand the behavior. I don't think this thread should be the outlet for that behavior though.[/QUOTE] with this being a safe space sometimes it's the only place people, well, feel safe letting it out

Here we fucking go again.

[QUOTE=Paige;49828197]hoooooooly shit, are you serious? you tried to get me killed lmao remember that?p[/quote] No, I don't? Nor did I act upon that? I remember saying to him private that the thought floated in my head because I was incredibly upset so you think/say stupid shit when you're emotionally destroyed and 18 years old. I apologized for the irrationality and you supposedly forgave me. Why are you bringing this up, exactly? [quote]but i'm also not going to have someone who TRIED TO HIRE A HITMAN TO KILL ME MULTIPLE TIMES fling shit at me like they're in the right lmao[/quote] Holy shit you're blowing that way out of proportion. The thought popped into my head because I was devastated. And it was only mentioned once. I never actively went searching for one. Why would you continue being my friend for a little over a year if I had actually attempted to do this act multiple times? You realize that actually makes no sense right? [quote]or how you mentally abused your bf to the point he tried killing himself 6 fucking times? lol don't try to fling shit at me when you've been so much worse[/quote] No? I don't? Because he never made any sort of attempt to do what couples do in a relationship and talk about shit with me. Instead, he had an affair with you. This isn't to say it's his fault or that it was his responsibility. I never should have lost control of myself but when you're too far gone you need someone to snap you into reality. But instead you both fucked behind my back. I actually wouldn't be all that surprised if I found out you tipped the odds in your favor. And now you have the audacity to actually lie about the affair to everyone here about it? Are you that desperate to save face? You can't deny it, dude. He even admitted to my face. I understand why you want to not look bad, which is why I refrained from ever mentioning this to anyone that I've met from here or in the thread. I let it go. But you decided to let your friend Candy speak for you and say shit he shouldn't have said. That put me in a tight spot where I either ignore what he said and look like a cunt that's confirming his accusations or I try to point out the truth and still look like a cunt. I chose the latter. Furthermore why are you actually continuing this in public? Shut the fuck up and let it die it's been 3 days. You're digging yourself a deeper hole.

oh my god take it to PMs or permaban all of you

Thank you

[QUOTE=Craptasket;49828744]oh my god take it to PMs or permaban all of you[/QUOTE] Fucking thank you.

so after being fucked about my gender since I was a pre-teen i've finally got an appointment for a gender specialist which is cool i guess