Crossdressing & Transgender & A̲L̲L̲I̲E̲S̲ Discussion v. Thread Reassignment Surgery - General

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;50669383]I think I'm going to leave Facepunch.[/QUOTE] Why's that?

I want to start selfmedding since it will take a while till I get the prescription from my doctor I read in the thread that spiro is a weak anti-androgen so what about procur? And is climara 100 alright?

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672219]I want to start selfmedding since it will take a while till I get the prescription from my doctor I read in the thread that spiro is a weak anti-androgen so what about procur? And is climara 100 alright?[/QUOTE] I wouldnt mess around with selfmedding. It can fuck up your kidneys if you don't know what you're doing, and if you plan on getting in prescribed mones then it'll fuck up your bloodwork.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;50672282]I wouldnt mess around with selfmedding. It can fuck up your kidneys if you don't know what you're doing, and if you plan on getting in prescribed mones then it'll fuck up your bloodwork.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/9db4c917829379e9591f0f3c97b96781.png[/IMG] I just want to know if the medicine ( procur 50mg & climara ) is fine or not

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672219]I want to start selfmedding since it will take a while till I get the prescription from my doctor I read in the thread that spiro is a weak anti-androgen so what about procur? And is climara 100 alright?[/QUOTE] Self medding is a literal last resort, don't do it if you don't need to. I've considered it but I'm still set in my ways, I'm going through this damn waiting list and only then will I decide where to go from there. [editline]8th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=_kubrick;50672299][IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/9db4c917829379e9591f0f3c97b96781.png[/IMG] I just want to know if the medicine ( procur 50mg & climara ) is fine or not[/QUOTE] Just because Erika says its ok doesn't mean it is, sure she's been self medding since forever but she provided no resources or advice other than "but its ok!!!!" and she's a bit of a damn hypocrite when it comes to the subject.

[QUOTE=Reagy;50672303]Self medding is a literal last resort, don't do it if you don't need to. I've considered it but I'm still set in my ways, I'm going through this damn waiting list and only then will I decide where to go from there. [editline]8th July 2016[/editline] Just because Erika says its ok doesn't mean it is, sure she's been self medding since forever but she provided no resources or advice other than "but its ok!!!!" and she's a bit of a damn hypocrite when it comes to the subject.[/QUOTE] then stop replying honestly I just want to know if those 2 medicaments are fine or if there is a better one I don't need someone saying I shouldn't do it since that wasn't my question

None of us are trained endocrinologists. If you want that answer ask your doctor.

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672319]then stop replying honestly I just want to know if those 2 medicaments are fine or if there is a better one I don't need someone saying I shouldn't do it since that wasn't my question[/QUOTE] In that case, go ask your doctor, you wont get an answer here as self medication advice isn't approved of.

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672299][IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/9db4c917829379e9591f0f3c97b96781.png[/IMG] I just want to know if the medicine ( procur 50mg & climara ) is fine or not[/QUOTE] Erika is just damn lucky and assumes everybody else will be too. It depends on your medical history and other factors. If you will self medicate, you will need to monitor the following LUCOSE BUN CREATININE SODIUM POTASSIUM CHLORIDE TOTAL CO2 CALCIUM BILIRUBIN TOTAL PROTEIN ALBUMIN, PLASMA ALK PHOS AST(SGOT) ALT (SGPT) ANION GAP POTASSIUM CMNT BILI T CMNT AST CMNT ANION GAP Most labs will run these up easily (these are all from standard blood sample), but its not stuff that you can do at home easily or accurately. Basically if all of these things don't fall within and remain in expected levels before and during pure t blockers then you will need doctor help before you can safely get on hrt. Pay special attention to creatinine, because the last thing you want is to put strain on your kidneys with pills. ALSO I highly recommend not self medding in the first place, especially if you're on track to get prescribed. The amount of effort this takes to proceed safely isn't worth it if you're going to officially get it soon. Don't bet on luck. Asking just whether those 2 medications are a fine regimen is like asking if inhaling lentils is. Yes?? But so is spironolactone and progesterone, other forms of estrogen, plain patches, etc etc etc. What matters more is your schedule of introduction to the medicine, your current state of your body and the state of your body while on the medication.

[QUOTE=Qaus;50672032]Why's that?[/QUOTE] Pretty much everything about this website is built to encourage toxic interaction, bullying, and conflict.

Its better than most forums in that regard.

You shouldn't leave just because there's a few fuckwits here and there honestly plus it's gonna be like that no matter what the site is if you were to join a new one

[QUOTE=Aircraft;50672449]Its better than most forums in that regard.[/QUOTE] Most websites don't have a button that lets you insult someone without putting in any effort.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;50672465]Most websites don't have a button that lets you insult someone without putting in any effort.[/QUOTE] You mean ratings? You can easily hide them with the 'stylish' extension.

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672219]I want to start selfmedding since it will take a while till I get the prescription from my doctor I read in the thread that spiro is a weak anti-androgen so what about procur? And is climara 100 alright?[/QUOTE] Never, ever self med. That shit's like getting behind the wheel of a car, ready to drive, when you've never even ridden in one. Seeing people self med gives me a hernia and I have no sympathy when they get hospitalized after fucking themselves up. And don't pull any of that "Buhbuhbuh last option :(" bullshit, because when people say that, 9 times out of 10 they have plenty of options, far more than me, and I'm not dumb enough to try and risk ruining my body's inner workings by self medding. The fact people in this thread encourage self medding makes me really concerned tbqh. Go ahead and disagree with me but when your bloodwork comes back with bad news because you fucked yourself over, don't act like it's anything shocking!!!!!

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672299][IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/9db4c917829379e9591f0f3c97b96781.png[/IMG] I just want to know if the medicine ( procur 50mg & climara ) is fine or not[/QUOTE] This sort of medication can always be dangerous, self medicating will be much more so. If this is something you are absolutely sure about attempting then here are two resources which might be helpful. They contain both recommended starting dosages as well as reasonable amounts of information on the possible risks of most common hrt medication. [url]http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/pdf/Transgender-PGACG-6-17-16.pdf[/url] [url]http://sherbourne.on.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Guidelines-and-Protocols-for-Comprehensive-Primary-Care-for-Trans-Clients-2015.pdf[/url]

i think i'm just going to give up on transitioning. too expensive and too many walls in the way

[QUOTE=Qaus;50682327]i think i'm just going to give up on transitioning. too expensive and too many walls in the way[/QUOTE] Same I'm finding it's pointless to try to do anything that makes me happy at this point

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50673525]Never, ever self med. That shit's like getting behind the wheel of a car, ready to drive, when you've never even ridden in one. Seeing people self med gives me a hernia and I have no sympathy when they get hospitalized after fucking themselves up. And don't pull any of that "Buhbuhbuh last option :(" bullshit, because when people say that, 9 times out of 10 they have plenty of options, far more than me, and I'm not dumb enough to try and risk ruining my body's inner workings by self medding. The fact people in this thread encourage self medding makes me really concerned tbqh. Go ahead and disagree with me but when your bloodwork comes back with bad news because you fucked yourself over, don't act like it's anything shocking!!!!![/QUOTE] Self medicating doesn't imply that you never get blood work done.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;50682910]Same I'm finding it's pointless to try to do anything that makes me happy at this point[/QUOTE] Nothing is pointless :c Never give up if it's what you strive for.

Just letting you all know that I'm not dead! ...still not had my first appointment date letter from Notts GIC yet. But hey, I've stopped volunteering, and now I'm free to completely be ME. Also [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm9YAABW8AAyQis.jpg:large[/t] (these are now signed and witnessed.)

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;50672402]Pretty much everything about this website is built to encourage toxic interaction, bullying, and conflict.[/QUOTE] Can't blame you, it feels like facepunch has gotten a lot more toxic over the years. Not sure where all the vitriol people on here have comes from. Or maybe I'm changing and it's getting harder to ignore this shit, idk.

[QUOTE=Baboo00;50687942]Can't blame you, it feels like facepunch has gotten a lot more toxic over the years. Not sure where all the vitriol people on here have comes from. Or maybe I'm changing and it's getting harder to ignore this shit, idk.[/QUOTE] moderator apathy

[QUOTE=Sylvie;50685266]Nothing is pointless :c Never give up if it's what you strive for.[/QUOTE] Seeing as how I fail at everything I've worked years to accomplish, seems pretty pointless to me.

If you feel like you are going to give up, please don't. You can PM me and I can try and check all your options for HRT.

[QUOTE=Zero_;50691931]If you feel like you are going to give up, please don't. You can PM me and I can try and check all your options for HRT.[/QUOTE] i have no options i'm in debt, i need to figure out how to afford other medical expenses that should be happening in the near future, and i have no job and basically no motivation to get one. and even if i were to solve all this, hormones and all that other stuff would still be out of my reach.

[QUOTE=Qaus;50695452]i have no options i'm in debt, i need to figure out how to afford other medical expenses that should be happening in the near future, and i have no job and basically no motivation to get one. and even if i were to solve all this, hormones and all that other stuff would still be out of my reach.[/QUOTE] You're in the US, are there no clinics operating on informed consent in your area? That's a relatively simple way to get hormones, provided you can afford it.

So this has been getting more and more frequent as of late, and I think I'm starting to get better at it, but I'm still so torn on what to do next. In a little over a month, I'm moving out of my bachelor pad and moving in with a couple friends on the other side of the city, so I'm afraid I'll have to go back to sneaking around if I want to continue (occasionally) presenting as female. Does anyone here have any experience with how to go about the process of beginning HRT in Canada? Is it at all covered by OHIP? Do I have to get a psych evaluation before consulting a doctor? If so what sort of criteria would they check for? How long does the process take? I've got a million and one questions to ask, but I honestly have no idea where to start, and it's starting to make my head spin. I've recently started to consider telling a friend or two about what I'm going through, but it scares the shit out of me because it would be so unbelievably out of character for me. I don't think I've ever actually expressed any sort of emotional vulnerability to a friend before, let alone something of this magnitude. I've gotten real good at masking everything that's ever bothered me, but I'm starting to realize that it's not a very healthy thing to do. Anyway, sorry for the rambling, I actually just wanted to show off this cute shirt/dress I snagged recently [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/sQRjqbi.jpg[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=_kubrick;50672319]then stop replying honestly I just want to know if those 2 medicaments are fine or if there is a better one I don't need someone saying I shouldn't do it since that wasn't my question[/QUOTE] You should ask your doctor even if you can't see a professional endo. Know that self-medding requires a lot of work and that you'll need to get regular bloodwork done to ensure that your hormones are at a safe level. [QUOTE=Reagy;50672331]In that case, go ask your doctor, you wont get an answer here as self medication advice isn't approved of.[/QUOTE] For a lot of people (I.E. people in the UK, you should know this) it can take years and a ridiculous amount of hoops to jump through to get the medication legally. I don't remember the country, but some require you to "live as a woman" for an extremely long period of time without any meds, essentially forcing you to look like a crossdresser and out yourself way before you make any progress.

Lots of stuff has been going on in my life since the last time I posted here. I confronted my father about being unsupportive. Up until about a week ago, he hadn't asked a single question and had been really passive aggressive about my exploration, not really allowing me to talk about or acknowledge it. I had to use euphemisms whenever I was around him or else he would make his discomfort known, and yet he tried to claim during an unrelated argument that he was supportive. So I called him out, and compared him to my mother, who, a week after I came out to her, invited me over to her apartment for a weekend. Over there, she had a 4+ hour long conversation with me, which included two questions that proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that my mother accepts me no matter what. She asked, "can you help me understand you better?" and "what can I do to help?" So when I tell my father that he had let me down, and that I felt like I had to hide everything when I was at home, he apologized for "not being my mom" and acknowledged that he didn't know how to act around me when the topic came up. He said he was afraid of offending me if he asked the wrong questions, but I think that's bunk. Nevertheless, he's been better about allowing me to be open about things in the house, and best of all, after having another conversation with both parents, I've been given a yellowish-green light to start HRT at the first opportunity (which will come in September, 6 months after my initial psychological evaluation from March) rather than waiting until after I land a job and move out of state, as originally intended. I'm motivated to do this because I've been attending group therapy at my university and I've met other trans people in real life, and, having heard their stories, I've realized that I might as well start transitioning before the job search, as it wouldn't be worth getting a job if it later turns out they aren't tolerant of trans people. Regardless, I'm on my parents' insurance until I can get a plan of my own that is equally comprehensive, giving me literally years to get things right. I've always been good at interviewing and sticking up for my health rights, and so I'm confident that I can make this happen. On a related note, I've completely kicked my fear of shopping for girl clothes at Goodwill and Ross. I went from being scared of confrontation and feeling like an invader, to being cautious and ready to argue with anyone while I shuffled through the items, to browsing casually just like normal, not giving a fuck if anyone is looking at me. It took like a month, tops. [QUOTE=AnnieAnim;50720247]I've recently started to consider telling a friend or two about what I'm going through, but it scares the shit out of me because it would be so unbelievably out of character for me. I don't think I've ever actually expressed any sort of emotional vulnerability to a friend before, let alone something of this magnitude. I've gotten real good at masking everything that's ever bothered me, but I'm starting to realize that it's not a very healthy thing to do.[/QUOTE] A long time ago, I realized that if people don't accept me for being trans, they're not really friends I can depend on. I've come out to plenty of people now, and what I've found is that outside of my own household, people are generally cool with it and it doesn't change much at all. I would encourage you to do it, especially if you're going to move in with them. If one of them freaks out about it, it's their ignorance that's the problem, not you.