Game of Thrones version IV: Preface your spoilers with BOOK or SHOW
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[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44696165][sp]At least you won't see that much more of her[/sp] big-ass upcoming season 4 spoilers[/QUOTE]
You know in some countries we read from left to right...
[QUOTE=Adamhully;44696214]You know in some countries we read from left to right...[/QUOTE]
Am I the only one to read over an entire post before checking the spoilers
Inverted the text nonetheless but maybe you should try reading an entire post before clicking on all those spoilers.
Season >[b]4[/b]< finale spoilers: [sp]While I agree Bran is rather bland, I'm really looking forward the the Children of the Forest and Bloodraven![/sp]
Book spoils also maybe season end [sp]I wonder how they'll handle Bloodraven, knowing the show they'll just out and out state that "Yo dis dude is super famous" though the books were never particularly subtle. It's just that they've never really mentioned the Blackfyre Rebellion, or any major Westerosi history like the Dance of Dragons or the War of the Ninepenny Kings[/sp]
I'm really surprised by the sheer amount of lore they deliver on the dvd sets, like there's an in-episode contextual guide you can turn on that gives you info on each character and dynamically changes the list to fit the characters currently present on screen, it's surprisingly well done and in-depth.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44696667]I'm really surprised by the sheer amount of lore they deliver on the dvd sets, like there's an in-episode contextual guide you can turn on that gives you info on each character and dynamically changes the list to fit the characters currently present on screen, it's surprisingly well done and in-depth.[/QUOTE]
One thing I don't like about the DVD/Blu-ray is how little behind the scenes stuff there really is. They usually post one big featurette focusing on one big event (Blackwater, RW etc) instead of showing how they did the smaller scenes. I want to see how they did the White Walker makeup, a long in dept look of the VFX work, stunts, sets, costumes, locations etc! Why can't we get this? Those really short videos they upload on YouTube for each season is far to little (and mostly consist of the actors/crew talking about the plot, not how they did it).
This is a massive show. Why can't they include a couple of hours of bonus material?
I can't decide if I'm looking forward to, or dreading the moment the complete series is out. It's gonna be one HELL of a marathon. There will be casualties
[QUOTE=Carne;44696532]Season finale spoilers:[/QUOTE]
You really ought to specify which season.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44694332]Not to mention that everything related to Daenerys just feels out of place, especially in the TV show, in westeros everything is down to earth and realistically scaled and, apart from the wall, everything looks like it could have been built by a bunch of dudes. Daenerys just hops around in gigantic peplum-sized cities that look like they belong in another show entirely, it kind of fucks up the grit of Westeros when it turns out a bunch of random people built a fucking gigantic city in the middle of a resourceless desert, just because.[/QUOTE]
I'm convinced one of the biggest flaws with the series was GRRM introducing magic far too late. The first book was fairly realistic in setting, with the exception of a dragon skull, it may as well have been set on Earth in medieval times. There were several conversations about how it's all nonsense.
Suddenly Daenerys goes to Quarth and there's Warlocks creating fire ladders and teleporting. And Stannis is creating (Season 2) [sp]Shadows to murder Renly[/sp]
It's just really jarring.
[QUOTE=darcy010;44700558]I'm convinced one of the biggest flaws with the series was GRRM introducing magic far too late. The first book was fairly realistic in setting, with the exception of a dragon skull, it may as well have been set on Earth in medieval times. There were several conversations about how it's all nonsense.
Suddenly Daenerys goes to Quarth and there's Warlocks creating fire ladders and teleporting. And Stannis is creating (Season 2) [sp]Shadows to murder Renly[/sp]
It's just really jarring.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was all because of [sp]the dragons have returned, and with them, magic; thus allowing people who had extremely minimal magic ability grow it into such big things[/sp]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44700699]I thought it was all because of [sp]the dragons have returned, and with them, magic; thus allowing people who had extremely minimal magic ability grow it into such big things[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]wasn't that also the explanation as to how they could create so much wildfire so fast too?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44700699]I thought it was all because of [sp]the dragons have returned, and with them, magic; thus allowing people who had extremely minimal magic ability grow it into such big things[/sp][/QUOTE]
Even if so, it's still poor pacing.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44700699]I thought it was all because of [sp]the dragons have returned, and with them, magic; thus allowing people who had extremely minimal magic ability grow it into such big things[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I find it far more likely that magic returned either with the Others or naturally, which enabled Daenerys to hatch the eggs.[/sp]
Doesn't it have something to do with the red comet?
All books also a theory spoils[sp]I thought it was because Dany was the Prince(ss) Who Was Promised, Azor Azhai Reborn?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44694332]Daenerys just hops around in gigantic peplum-sized cities that look like they belong in another show entirely, it kind of fucks up the grit of Westeros when it turns out a bunch of random people built a fucking gigantic city in the middle of a resourceless desert, just because.[/QUOTE]
I don't get it.
The cities look different because they were built by people with different cultures, you wouldn't expect cities in Essos to look the same in Westeros for the same reasons you don't expect it in reality.
Also I doubt they're resourceless because most of the major Essos cities tend to be near the sea. They would have been built presumably by slaves who's deaths during construction in an arid climate would not have been a big deal.
um, aren't the ghiscari cities even older than valyria. if i remember correctly, they're the oldest established culture in asoiaf and dominated essos until the valyrians discovered dragons and wrecked their shit. so, of course they look entirely different.
[QUOTE=Carne;44697006]One thing I don't like about the DVD/Blu-ray is how little behind the scenes stuff there really is. They usually post one big featurette focusing on one big event (Blackwater, RW etc) instead of showing how they did the smaller scenes. I want to see how they did the White Walker makeup, a long in dept look of the VFX work, stunts, sets, costumes, locations etc! Why can't we get this? Those really short videos they upload on YouTube for each season is far to little (and mostly consist of the actors/crew talking about the plot, not how they did it).
This is a massive show. Why can't they include a couple of hours of bonus material?[/QUOTE]
They said at a con there is little to no deleted scenes because basically almost everything they shoot and that isn't an outright failed shot is used in the final episode. I guess there is very little bonus material because they don't really have the time to work on both the shooting of episodes on a tight deadline and on making-of/behind the scene interviews.
I also re-watched Rains of Castamere (the [sp]red wedding[/sp] episode) and I noticed in the Yunkai scene that the fighting in that show is really awkwardly shot and badly choreographed, it's strange to see such action scenes like these feel so cheap and rushed in a show that's entirely about how fucked up and violent their world is.
And my point about cities on Dany's side isn't that they look different, it's that they look really out of place. They're super-clean, super-huge and their scale alone makes it near impossible to actually show them, especially since Daenerys usually just spends like one, maybe two episodes around before leaving with the exception of Qarth, so there's no time to see the fleshed out city and it just comes out as a weirdly out of place backdrop that seems like it's from another show entirely. Westeros has good variety in its own right but everything follows the same guideline of medieval shittiness.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;44701603][sp]I find it far more likely that magic returned either with the Others or naturally, which enabled Daenerys to hatch the eggs.[/sp][/QUOTE]
It could be, though [sp]most of the "magic" that has been done usually involves fire of some sort, like the fire ladder and the wildfire production which, at least to me, points toward dragons being the cause.[/sp]
On the discussion of magic and such (season 2/3 spoilers)
[sp]Honestly it mostly sounds like GRRM started writing out the world with the old gods and the new in mind and all that stuff, and then halfway through he realized it'd be too much of a clusterfuck and the lord of light became the main focus with most magic revolving around fire.[/sp]
Either that or [sp]Azor Ahai and the Great Other[/sp] turn out to be a huge-ass red herring.
I've read book 1 and seen all episode, would I be able to skip over book 2 and 3 and still be up to date?
[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;44711977]I've read book 1 and seen all episode, would I be able to skip over book 2 and 3 and still be up to date?[/QUOTE]
Read all the books, well worth it.
[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;44711977]I've read book 1 and seen all episode, would I be able to skip over book 2 and 3 and still be up to date?[/QUOTE]
Book two is my personal favorite, book three is almost everyone's favorite. Don't skip.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44712414]Book two is my personal favorite, book three is almost everyone's favorite. Don't skip.[/QUOTE]
I personally thought book 1 was a bit boring, is this the general opinion or just me?
[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;44712488]I personally thought book 1 was a bit boring, is this the general opinion or just me?[/QUOTE]
Book one is almost entirely a set up for the next two books. There's a ton more action and intrigue in the next two than the first.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44712548]Book one is almost entirely a set up for the next two books. There's a ton more action and intrigue in the next two than the first.[/QUOTE]
Guess I'll be getting book 2 and 3 somewhere in the future then
I'm thinking both gods are evil.
Lord of light and the great other battle, and the ever-changing superior force dictates the season. When the other is strong, It's fucking cold. When the red god Is strong, It's summer in the north.
Thing is there's a southern continent On the map. I'm thinking that down there, they'd probably pray for winter because the red god's summer is too hostile and ends up killing them all.
It'd actually be a really good twist if the other turned out to be the good guy because winter is actually there to keep the lord of light away, and if winter is too short then the lord of light will just burn everything to the ground.
[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;44711977]I've read book 1 and seen all episode, would I be able to skip over book 2 and 3 and still be up to date?[/QUOTE]
There's a lot of characters and plot points that are cut out. If you stated reading up to where the show is you'll definitely be confused.
[QUOTE=darcy010;44718467]There's a lot of characters and plot points that are cut out. If you stated reading up to where the show is you'll definitely be confused.[/QUOTE]
After I finished reading the series I re watched the show and I found that it made a lot more sense.
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