Game of Thrones version IV: Preface your spoilers with BOOK or SHOW
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40502237]I'm strictly talking about prior to Aegon's conquest and you seem to be talking about nothing but afterward.
We're not on the same page.[/QUOTE]
Considering Westerosi culture evolved around the Targs, they use AL for the calendar and the Targs ruled for 300 odd years, you can't really ignore AL.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;40502420]Considering Westerosi culture evolved around the Targs, they use AL for the calendar and the Targs ruled for 300 odd years, you can't really ignore AL.[/QUOTE]
That's [I]after[/I]. God, how hard is it to understand I'm talking about [I][B]before[/B][/I] the invasion?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40502649]That's [I]after[/I]. God, how hard is it to understand I'm talking about [I][B]before[/B][/I] the invasion?[/QUOTE]
The Targaryens weren't "nobodies" as you described them. They weren't the strongest family, but they [i]were[/i] nobility within the Valyrian Freehold and one of the few families that controlled dragons. As far as I know they were the only Dragonlord family to survive the doom, since they moved to Dragonstone a few years before.
This guy hasn't read the books so some shit he says is retarded but he's funny so...
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I actualy realy enjoy the villains in a song of ice and fire/game of thrones. It's because they're not realy simple. Infact, many of the guys we consider 'good' would be 'evil' in any other work of fiction.
Best characters:
Arya, in any other fictional work she would be an evil character. I mean she's not bothered about the people she's killed and she plans to kill more people. She kills her first boy at 8 (or 10 in the tv show) but at the same time she's... efficient. (book 4 spoilers: [sp] she joins the faceless men, a group of elite assassins. she cuts the throat of a nights watch deserter purely because she angers him[/sp]
Tyrion, who's essentially tywin but with a sense of humour. I think the series paints him as more of a good guy than the books do, but he still has no problem with killing people (well, a few people he had a problem with, but that makes him an even better character)
Even then, there are characters who just [I]are[/I] almost unreasonably sadistic and malicious. Sir Gregor, Vargo hoat, joffery, Ramsay. But they do so with such style that you end up liking them anyway.
(though i've yet to develop any feeling for any character with a ghiscari name because they're so hard to tell apart) also, cersei is a great character, but her chapters are hard to read and her scenes seem rather pointless.
[QUOTE=The Jack;40504248]I actualy realy enjoy the villains in a song of ice and fire/game of thrones. It's because they're not realy simple. Infact, many of the guys we consider 'good' would be 'evil' in any other work of fiction.
Best characters:
Arya, in any other fictional work she would be an evil character. I mean she's not bothered about the people she's killed and she plans to kill more people. She kills her first boy at 8 (or 10 in the tv show) but at the same time she's... efficient. (book 4 spoilers: [sp] she joins the faceless men, a group of elite assassins. she cuts the throat of a nights watch deserter purely because she angers him[/sp]
Tyrion, who's essentially tywin but with a sense of humour. I think the series paints him as more of a good guy than the books do, but he still has no problem with killing people (well, a few people he had a problem with, but that makes him an even better character)
Even then, there are characters who just [I]are[/I] almost unreasonably sadistic and malicious. Sir Gregor, Vargo hoat, joffery, Ramsay. But they do so with such style that you end up liking them anyway.
(though i've yet to develop any feeling for any character with a ghiscari name because they're so hard to tell apart) also, cersei is a great character, but her chapters are hard to read and her scenes seem rather pointless.[/QUOTE]
i agree with you buy woah who likes ramsay
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;40504320]i agree with you buy woah who likes ramsay[/QUOTE]
Nobody yet, but then we haven't had a chapter from his point of view yet. It happened with Jaime.
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;40504408]Nobody yet, but then we haven't had a chapter from his point of view yet. It happened with Jaime.[/QUOTE]
there is no way that GRRM could make Ramsay look good
at all.
I really gotta stop blindly clicking spoilers
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;40504408]Nobody yet, but then we haven't had a chapter from his point of view yet. It happened with Jaime.[/QUOTE]
nope.
nopenopenopenope.
Honestly, they'd have to pull some pyro-mask shit with Ramsay's perception of the world to make me feel anything other than burning hatred for him.
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;40504408]Nobody yet, but then we haven't had a chapter from his point of view yet. It happened with Jaime.[/QUOTE]
I could see them ending up like Cercei's chapters.
I hated Cercei's chapters.
[sp]Ramsay's not going to look good. But he's a flawed and complex character. He's a man with power fantasies, but unlike most people he's got the means to achieve these power fantasies and doesn't realy have anyone to keep him in check. He's also rather careless and you can tell that he's going down.
(though if i were roose i would have killed him straight away for the death of the trueborn son, then made replacements)[/sp]
Spoiler tags are obviously a foreign concept to you.
[B]Tag and mark book shit.[/B]
[QUOTE=The Jack;40505542][sp]Ramsay's not going to look good. But he's a flawed and complex character. He's a man with power fantasies, but unlike most people he's got the means to achieve these power fantasies and doesn't realy have anyone to keep him in check. He's also rather careless and you can tell that he's going down.
(though if i were roose i would have killed him straight away for the death of the trueborn son, then made replacements)[/sp][/QUOTE]
b5 [sp]Roose states to Theon at one point that he's too old to see any new son old enough to take over the house and "Young lords are the bane of great houses" or something like that.[/sp]
why's that a spoiler? i thought what i said was very obvious and not at all important to the plot.
next i'l tell you that the mountain is a bad guy. You'l all be angry about it because i'm spoiling the entire series.
[sp]He gets headaches[/sp]
It's not a spoiler at all.
"Ramsay is a bad guy."
"OMFG SPOILERS. TAG THAT NOW!"
People need to lighten up.
[QUOTE=The Jack;40511685]why's that a spoiler? i thought what i said was very obvious and not at all important to the plot.
dnext i'l tell you that the mountain is a bad guy. You'l all be angry about it because i'm spoiling the entire series.
[sp]He gets headaches[/sp][/QUOTE]
because you have no concept on what is a spoiler and what isn't
if I were you I'd just spoiler tag everything because you seem to lack a sense of distinction when it comes to ruining things
You guys are also forgetting that show people have next to no idea who Ramsay is or his back story yet. I'm not even so sure that the show has said his name yet.
I've been reading the GoT thread for more than a year and I've seen Ramsay discussed dozens of times without spoiler tags. In fact, go back a few pages in this thread and you'll see him being discussed without spoiler tags and no one minds.
No plot is revealed by saying he's a bad person. Why are people suddenly worried about it?
A ramsay chapter would be so much more interesting than a Cersei one.
Cersei's a power hungry woman who wishes she was tywin... but fucks it up. I think a few characters have made acurate descriptions of her. I believe petyr said something about how she wants to get power but has no idea on what she does when she gets it. You can see it now already with her trying to fuck up the lanister relationship with the tyrels. She's constantly brooding on crap like 'where's jamie?' and 'if i were a man' and how she hates the imp and (late season/book 3 spoilers) [sp] how she's got to look after weak tommen because joffs dead)[/sp] book 4 [sp] her entire part in book 4 is about her fucking shit up,in the bad way. [/sp] book 6 prediction [sp] she'l just make more bad decisions [/sp]
but essentially she just complains about mother things. Her lovers, her children, her father, her job, her coworkers.
Ramsay would pretty much be... Rather like a story written by [I]the Joker[/I]. It'd be seriously disturbing, but i'm fairly sure it'l make us laugh a lot too.
has Ramsay even been on the show yet? or does he come on in the later books
I strongly believe that [sp] the guy who pretends to be an ironborn helping theon to escape [/sp] is ramsay
He comes in much earlier in the books. At book... two, is it? though he poses as someone else for a bit.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;40515168]You guys are also forgetting that show people have next to no idea who Ramsay is or his back story yet. I'm not even so sure that the show has said his name yet.[/QUOTE]
Roose might have said his name once in a conversation to Robb, and has referenced his bastard son once or twice, but I don't think that who Ramsay is has been revealed yet.
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;40515564]has Ramsay even been on the show yet? or does he come on in the later books[/QUOTE]
Season 3 spoilers, obviously: [sp]The guy who 'rescued' Theon only to take him back to the Dreadfort was Ramsay, posing as one of Asha's men.[/sp]
[QUOTE=sanitarium.;40515218]I've been reading the GoT thread for more than a year and I've seen Ramsay discussed dozens of times without spoiler tags. In fact, go back a few pages in this thread and you'll see him being discussed without spoiler tags and no one minds.
No plot is revealed by saying he's a bad person. Why are people suddenly worried about it?[/QUOTE]
so you've always been a bad poster?
[QUOTE=shrektheturd2;40519644]so you've always been a bad poster?[/QUOTE]
How does my seeing other people talk about Ramsay without spoiler tags for more than a year make [i]me[/i] a bad poster? Were you just trying to get zing ratings without thinking about what you were saying?
[QUOTE=sanitarium.;40519878]How does my seeing other people talk about Ramsay without spoiler tags for more than a year make [i]me[/i] a bad poster? Were you just trying to get zing ratings without thinking about what you were saying?[/QUOTE]
get wrecked
do we ever get to know more about theon? he (book 3 and 4) [sp]isnt really mentioned in book 3 except for a couple of passing references and im about 1/3 through book 4 and he still nothing. book 5 maybe?[/sp]
[QUOTE=burninplaces;40520985]do we ever get to know more about theon? he (book 3 and 4) [sp]isnt really mentioned in book 3 except for a couple of passing references and im about 1/3 through book 4 and he still nothing. book 5 maybe?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He comes back in book 5, but he's...different.[/sp]
[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]
[sp]Reading Theon in book 5 made me want to give him a hug[/sp]
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