• Game of Thrones version IV: Preface your spoilers with BOOK or SHOW
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[QUOTE=burninplaces;40520985]do we ever get to know more about theon? he (book 3 and 4) [sp]isnt really mentioned in book 3 except for a couple of passing references and im about 1/3 through book 4 and he still nothing. book 5 maybe?[/sp][/QUOTE] You really don't want to know things like this, I got so many things ruined for me while I was reading them and it really takes away from the experience. ^to all you spoilers out there [editline]4th May 2013[/editline] Lazy mistake re-using the Theon music when [sp]robb beheads Karstark[/sp] imo
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;40523024] Lazy mistake re-using the Theon music when [sp]robb beheads Karstark[/sp] imo[/QUOTE] maybe it wasn't a mistake?
It probably wasn't a mistake [sp]seeing as Karstark was talking about how he lost the north (to Theon obviously[/sp]
[QUOTE=shrektheturd2;40524379]maybe it wasn't a mistake?[/QUOTE] you just shouldn't re-use music imo, maybe if they had a scene with Theon after or even just referenced him in the scene, but it's like at the end of the Hobbit when they use the názgul music for Thorin: not good
Erm I'm pretty sure the re-use of music was to establish that Robbs situation parallels Theon's, as in, the beheadings for both Theon and Robb is a signal for when things have started to go all to shit for that respective character.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;40525975]Erm I'm pretty sure the re-use of music was to establish that Robbs situation parallels Theon's, as in, the beheadings for both Theon and Robb is a signal for when things have started to go all to shit for that respective character.[/QUOTE] huh im surprised i didn't look at it that way im usually well intuitive :/
I don't get how the karstarks have 8000 men. which is repeated to have been 'half his army' That doesn't make sense to me. The largest northern hold is whiteharbour (richest and by far the most populous) - home of the manderlys. so surely they'd have more than the karstarks... and surely the starks would have more than the karstarks... and there's a handful of other powerful houses and a cart full of minor ones. if they have 8000, how is this almost 'half' of the northern army?
[QUOTE=The Jack;40526693]I don't get how the karstarks have 8000 men. which is repeated to have been 'half his army' That doesn't make sense to me. The largest northern hold is whiteharbour (richest and by far the most populous) - home of the manderlys. so surely they'd have more than the karstarks... and surely the starks would have more than the karstarks... and there's a handful of other powerful houses and a cart full of minor ones. if they have 8000, how is this almost 'half' of the northern army?[/QUOTE] Well they've just fought several huge battles, perhaps after losses the Karstaks have the largest remaining part
[QUOTE=The Jack;40526693]I don't get how the karstarks have 8000 men. which is repeated to have been 'half his army' That doesn't make sense to me. The largest northern hold is whiteharbour (richest and by far the most populous) - home of the manderlys. so surely they'd have more than the karstarks... and surely the starks would have more than the karstarks... and there's a handful of other powerful houses and a cart full of minor ones. if they have 8000, how is this almost 'half' of the northern army?[/QUOTE] If you take it by the books, then at this point (bk 3) [sp]Robb has two main armies out there, the one at Harrenhal, and the one in Riverrun. I know that Whiteharbour provide most of his horse, and imagine that most of the Karstarks are infantry. Maybe they are half of the Riverrun army, and thus technically half of his army. Would leave his overall soldier count at roughly the 24k men between the two major armies, which seems reasonable, since the Lannisters had 20k in their main army, whatever remnants of the 20k men host Stafford Lannister (I believe he was called?) was raising at Casterley Rock, and the Tyrell forces.[/sp] [editline]4th May 2013[/editline] Pure speculation of course, and it's not really a spoiler if you want to look at it but only watch the tv series.
Heh, in the books you find out in the first one that Daenerys [sp]can speak valyrian[/sp]. I kinda prefer it the way they did it in the series for that one great moment.
Actually, in the books danny rarely meets anyone who speaks the common tongue. Nearly all speech in the eastern continent is valaryian or a dialect (there's a some [I]very far east[/I] languages , but daenerys hasn't gone that far. there's dothraki/lamb men languages too, but it's said where those are spoken)
I'm surprised there's no mention of dialects or accents in Westeros. I can picture people from Dorne having a different accent than those in the North, yet there's never been a mention of such a thing.
There's a few actualy. most notably about dorne and kings landing,with the highborn having different accents too. There's also a fair few colloquial dialects. Some of the characters don't speak properly.
[QUOTE=The Jack;40529678]There's a few actualy. most notably about dorne and kings landing,with the highborn having different accents too. There's also a fair few colloquial dialects. Some of the characters don't speak properly.[/QUOTE] Are you talking about the [sp]"my lord" vs. "m'lord"[/sp] thing, because I don't think that quite counts. There's lots of mentions of dialects and accents from across the Free Cities, but I don't recall any about Westeros.
are the dornish supposed to be mexicans
I thought they were supposed to be indians (actual indians not native americans)
From the books, I felt that Dorne was sorta Arabic or Italian like.
I always felt Dorne was mostly based on Moorish Spain.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40532136]I always felt Dorne was mostly based on Moorish Spain.[/QUOTE] Yes, that. That's exactly what I pictured.
I like that all the Starks actually speak with a similar accent to each other; most northerners speak similarly while southerners are a little more varied.
when is next episode
[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;40533703]when is next episode[/QUOTE] Not today.
[QUOTE=Aries;40533195]I like that all the Starks actually speak with a similar accent to each other; most northerners speak similarly while southerners are a little more varied.[/QUOTE] It doesn't really make sense though, the North is the largest of the seven kingdoms. The landmass makes up like half the continent. If anything, they'd have the most varied accents.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;40534339]It doesn't really make sense though, the North is the largest of the seven kingdoms. The landmass makes up like half the continent. If anything, they'd have the most varied accents.[/QUOTE] It's not all about size though. The north seems to be the most homogenized place in Westeros since it seems to be the least affected by trade and immigration because nobody except northerners would ever want to live there, and those are typically the ways in which language evolves.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;40534339]It doesn't really make sense though, the North is the largest of the seven kingdoms. The landmass makes up like half the continent. If anything, they'd have the most varied accents.[/QUOTE] It's also one of the least populated lands in Westeros.
The north is the most sparsely populated region on westeros (other than beyond the wall), but i don't think it's the least populated region. It'd also be easier to access for traders from the north of the eastern continent and it's also responsible for most wool and fur in the south. Beyond the wall is also supposed to be pretty good for smugglers (amber, obsidian and a few other precious things for weapons).
[QUOTE=The Jack;40537276]The north is the most sparsely populated region on westeros (other than beyond the wall), but i don't think it's the least populated region. [/QUOTE] snip I'm dumb
just finished book 4: [sp]i find it interesting how this talk of prophecies and obsidian candles and dragons and whitewalkers is coming together. it makes everything else seem so insignificant in comparison. it makes robb stark and the war of the five kings seem insignificant. in other news, i wonder what will become of cersei. it seems jaime is not coming to her rescue. also, im left wondering what prince doran meant when he said his son was getting vengeance. he mentioned 'fire and blood' so i can only assume it has something to do with dany.[/sp]
[QUOTE=burninplaces;40537389]just finished book 4: [sp]i find it interesting how this talk of prophecies and obsidian candles and dragons and whitewalkers is coming together. it makes everything else seem so insignificant in comparison. it makes robb stark and the war of the five kings seem insignificant. in other news, i wonder what will become of cersei. it seems jaime is not coming to her rescue. also, im left wondering what prince doran meant when he said his son was getting vengeance. he mentioned 'fire and blood' so i can only assume it has something to do with dany.[/sp][/QUOTE] I found the dornish chapters harder to follow because of the inconsistency of which character is the view point. [sp] Wasn't he holding a dragon game piece when he said that? [/sp] Although book 5 has parts which are rather clear about it. On cersei... (big book 4/5/6 spoilers, don't fucking click-> [sp] She's a crazy bitch and jamie is fully aware of it. They both hate and love eachother at the same time. I doubt he'l help her though. He realises that she's a wreck that's going to destroy itself [/sp] Bigger spoilers: [sp] Maggy the frog prophecies that all of cersei's children will die before she does. Also, that cersei will be killed by her 'little brother' which she thinks is tyrion. However, Jamie is the younger twin (also, someone other than tywin might be the father of the twins) So it's likely that cersei will be killed by jamie, not tyrion [/sp] /giving away massive spoiler theories because i'm a c***.
[QUOTE=The Jack;40537276]The north is the most sparsely populated region on westeros (other than beyond the wall), but i don't think it's the least populated region. It'd also be easier to access for traders from the north of the eastern continent and it's also responsible for most wool and fur in the south. Beyond the wall is also supposed to be pretty good for smugglers (amber, obsidian and a few other precious things for weapons).[/QUOTE] I wouldn't necessarily say that the North has easier access to Essos compared to the South. The North has like, zero proper port cities beyond White Harbor, which implies most other locations across the coast are fairly shitty for docks (ocean currents might also be more favorable in the south.) Let's also not forget that easier =/= profitable. The North has fuck-all in terms of trade goods, whereas the South has everything from precious gems to gold. Besides, Northerners are boring.
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