Rate The Last Movie You Watched - April V3 - no tv shows
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saw the butler and 12 years a slave (was feeling black this week). they were pretty weak. Only got feels at one point in the movies
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;43695522]It seemed like it tried to be too witty and too "stereotypically mafia badass", which led to it feeling somewhat fake to me. Don't get me wrong I love the movie but it strikes in a bad part of the uncanny valley to me
Sorry I'm horrible at explaining shit[/QUOTE]
Alright then but there is one thing that I have to say about the "sterotypically mafia badass" thing. I would agree that Goodfellas (alongside with Scarface and The Godfather trilogy) is hugely responsible for the many of the modern tropes and stereotypes about the Mafia in film. I can't say that there isn't any scene in Goodfellas that doesn't make some of the Mafia members look "badass"/"cool".
i.e.[video=youtube;z49xZ7VcfqE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49xZ7VcfqE[/video]
But I would have to disagree with the film's flaw of only "trying" to make them stereotypically mafia badasses. One of the reasons of why Goodfellas works so well for me is that it doesn't try to make it all bad. From the gangsters' perspective, they think they are the "stereotypically mafia badass".
There had to be something in that criminal lifestyle those guys would have loved. Things that would have made them feel empowered, special, "badass" and "cool". Hell, Henry Hill always wanted to be the 'stereotypical badass gangster'. He idolised the lifestyle of the gangster and tried to ignore/disregard the bad. We however can plainly that there is a very dark and brutal side that's revolving around these people. They repeatedly commit acts of violence, murder and theft. It doesn't make it seem cool or badass; it's just the way they do things. So while I do agree with you about the film using the age-old 'make criminals look cool', I'd say that it goes beyond that and without it, Goodfellas wouldn't have worked as well.
X-Men 3 has [B]such good writing[/B] such as this brilliant written line. Proof Brett Ratner is indeed the next Spielberg
[video=youtube;zE5KXlg4iUY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE5KXlg4iUY[/video]
[QUOTE=vagina lips;43693545]It was a bunch of miniature garden gnomes running from unscary monsters for 3 hours. It was woeful.[/QUOTE]
you guys have no idea how painful it is to agree with jewdozer so whole heartedly
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[QUOTE=TheKritter71;43696308]X-Men 3 has [B]such good writing[/B] such as this brilliant written line. Proof Brett Ratner is indeed the next Spielberg
[video=youtube;zE5KXlg4iUY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE5KXlg4iUY[/video][/QUOTE]
thats the most botched i've ever heard a line. i blame that on the awkward delivery rather than the line itself. i think the line could have worked with better delivery/direction
[QUOTE=TheKritter71;43673949]I watched Akira. I really can't rate cause I cant make a opinion, my opinion is divided to if its a good movie or bad movie. The setting is great, some of the characters are greatly developed. But then again the story is meh and well I just don't know how to see the movie premise from a perspective. I didn't see anything spectacular (like everyone anime fan says) or terrible about it.[/QUOTE]
I'd say read the comic, because the plot is much more fleshed out and is generally less confusing, since it isn't trying to be jammed into a two-hour movie. That being said, the manga is over 2,000 pages or something, so it's gonna be a while if you choose to read it.
I personally love the movie for things like the soundtrack and animation, but admittedly, the plot suffers from being restricted to a two-hour time frame.
Don't Be A Menace To South Central
3 million dollaz in cash/10
The Wolf of Wall Street
4/10
it's literally a depiction of what I thought being a grown up was like when I was 12
it feels like the movie treats you like a retard from start to finish
acting was great though, entertained me even through the cringe
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;43695230]I'm genuinely curious to why it didn't work for you. Or are Scorsese's films just aren't your thing?
edit: I know that 7/10 ain't bad but what I meant was what's keeping the film from going good to great?[/QUOTE]
I dunno. Maybe I'm just not big on Scorsese since I'm yet to think any of his films are great (aside Taxi Driver which I love). The Departed is not very good, Shutter Island is cool but pretty inconsequential, WOWS was not that interesting and his style almost didn't work for it. Cape Fear is my favourite of his aside Taxi Driver. These listed are the only ones of his I've seen though, so there's a fair amount of his alleged best work I've not seen yet. I think I just don't find his stories that interesting. Gangsters etc don't interest me. Taxi Driver is my favourite partly because it's a true character study of someone broken, and it's fascinating. Goodfellas was not very interesting and I felt no attachment to it at all. It's just bad dudes doing bad shit. Why should I care about that? Same for WOWS. It's assholes being assholes. That's not compelling to me. Where's the real emotion, the reasoning, the dilemma, the divide in the characters? There's not really much there. The characters are boring and the stories aren't compelling.
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I think Pollyparrot was right about Goodfellas and I apply it to most of Scorsese's works aside Taxi Driver- he tries very, very hard. It's obvious. He's trying too hard to be stylish or flashy or whatever. His tracking shots, POV shots, talking to camera are very blatant and don't necessarily work with the film, it's just Scorsese showing off that he can do it. The long shot POV of all the dudes saying hi in the restaurant in Goodfellas was straight up terrible imo.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;43699874]I dunno. Maybe I'm just not big on Scorsese since I'm yet to think any of his films are great (aside Taxi Driver which I love). The Departed is not very good, Shutter Island is cool but pretty inconsequential, WOWS was not that interesting and his style almost didn't work for it. Cape Fear is my favourite of his aside Taxi Driver. These listed are the only ones of his I've seen though, so there's a fair amount of his alleged best work I've not seen yet. I think I just don't find his stories that interesting. Gangsters etc don't interest me. Taxi Driver is my favourite partly because it's a true character study of someone broken, and it's fascinating. Goodfellas was not very interesting and I felt no attachment to it at all. It's just bad dudes doing bad shit. Why should I care about that? Same for WOWS. It's assholes being assholes. That's not compelling to me. Where's the real emotion, the reasoning, the dilemma, the divide in the characters? There's not really much there. The characters are boring and the stories aren't compelling.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
I think Pollyparrot was right about Goodfellas and I apply it to most of Scorsese's works aside Taxi Driver- he tries very, very hard. It's obvious. He's trying too hard to be stylish or flashy or whatever. His tracking shots, POV shots, talking to camera are very blatant and don't necessarily work with the film, it's just Scorsese showing off that he can do it. The long shot POV of all the dudes saying hi in the restaurant in Goodfellas was straight up terrible imo.[/QUOTE]
Well I disagree with pretty much everything you've said about Goodfellas (especially the long uncut shot of Henry and Kaven's entry into the restaurant, which wasn't a POV shot) and most of Scorsese's works (Cape Fear? I always thought it was one of his weaker films) and also about Scorsese 'trying "too" hard'.
He uses a variety of techniques that work for a scene(s) (and the film + tone in general) and he does them quite well imo. It's the direct opposite of someone just randomly using stuff since most of the time, the person who's doing it has clearly no idea what the hell they're doing, i.e. massive technical problems, and/or have trouble syncing them up with the scene, actors and direction. I'd say the drastic differences between the idealistic era of Henry's life and the time where it all goes downhill (i.e. that helicopter sequence) worked pretty fantastic for me. IMO, it just felt incredibly organic and it was like the movie, characters, music, plot all came together into one living creature and it avoided only making few characters say "oh man we're having the time of our lives" and then see them "oh man we fucked up, now everything is bad".
As for Taxi Driver, I could say the same thing. Why should I care about a guy who's fucked up in the head and in turn does shit that's fucked? Then again, it's just opinions I suppose V:v:V.
Well, are you planning on seeing Raging Bull?
Yeah I plan on watching Raging Bull. I feel like I'll enjoy that more than his other stuff. I'll be watching more of his stuff, none of his films are bad at all- I've enjoyed all of them. Anyway, I find Taxi Driver great and Travis Bickle a brilliant character because he's complex. There's brilliant conflict, a real inner battle going on, and he's fighting an unwinnable battle both with himself and with New York. There are lots of levels to Travis. It's about a lonely man suffering in a disgusting world, and he wants to do good but he's not a good guy (A great scene that shows this being when he takes Sybil to an adult film where the scumbags go- he's a scumbag too, he just doesn't know it. He's also socially inept.). It's about PTSD, and about what to do when there seems to be no hope.
Also Taxi Driver wasn't written by Scorsese, it was written by Paul Schrader. So maybe that has something to do with it. Schrader wrote Raging Bull too.
In terms of style, tbh I think Boogie Nights did it better. I just watched that last week and it was obviously channeling Scorsese in many ways but it did it way better and Goodfellas ended up looking like it was trying to be Boogie Nights.
I will say though that Goofellas has really made me want to look more into Robert Deniro's career. I've not seen that much of his stuff now that I think about it, and to me he was the best part of the film. Raging Bull I need to see, I have The Deer Hunter and Ronin sitting near me. Taxi Driver too but I guess I'd rather see something new as I already know he's incredible in that film.
I'm guessing that you'll probably like Raging Bull more than Goodfellas. If you do like Raging Bull (and since you liked Taxi Driver), The King of Comedy might work for you too.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
Well The King of Comedy has De Niro in it too. So yeah you should check that one out after Raging Bull.
But yeah, see your point about the characters of Goodfellas and Taxi Driver btw. I think it's just what connects with who. I connect with Travis but I didn't sympathise with Henry so much. Yeah Travis is a bad dude but I understood what he was doing and why (not that I didn't understand the people in Goodfellas... The first half of the film makes it very clear).
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;43700345]I'm guessing that you'll probably like Raging Bull more than Goodfellas. If you do like Raging Bull (and since you liked Taxi Driver), The King of Comedy might work for you too.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
Well The King of Comedy has De Niro in it too. So yeah you should check that one out after Raging Bull.[/QUOTE]
will do. I'm still gonna watch Casino and stuff as well, Gangs of New York interests me too, and I'll check out King of Comedy.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;43700334] It's about PTSD, and about what to do when there seems to be no hope.[/quote]
There's certainly one way at looking at it. That's the thing I enjoy about Taxi Driver, to me, it seems to demand something else every time I think I 'figured' it out. Maybe that's intentional.
[quote]In terms of style, tbh I think Boogie Nights did it better. I just watched that last week and it was obviously channeling Scorsese in many ways but it did it way better and Goodfellas ended up looking like it was trying to be Boogie Nights.[/QUOTE]
Eh I dunno. I mean, Boogie Nights is great but besides the similar tone and approach of the rise and fall, I didn't see the conflict between the two films. Then again, it could be just me.
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;43700410]There's certainly one way at looking at it. That's the thing I enjoy about Taxi Driver, to me, it seems to demand something else every time I think I 'figured' it out. Maybe that's intentional.
Eh I dunno. I mean, Boogie Nights is great but besides the similar tone and approach of the rise and fall, I didn't see the conflict between the two films. Then again, it could be just me.[/QUOTE]
There's a lot to Taxi Driver. It's one of my favourite screenplays (and one of my favourite films).
I feel the Boogie Nights and Goodfellas are pretty similar. (PTA himself admitted this, and actually cited it as a flaw but imo it's not; like he felt he hadn't evolved enough to be his own man at the time, relying too much on the works of his favourite directors instead) PTA uses the same POV, tracking shots, use of music etc that Scorsese does but they worked better in Boogie Nights to me. They're both about family, and the glamour of a dodgy business, and follow similar structures. I think though, it's possible I'm being unfair to Scorsese since for one thing he did it first and PTA simply looked at it and tried to make it better (not to demean PTA's work though- he's one of the best directors around), and Boogie Nights has jumped right up into my favourite films list. And Goodfellas reminded me of it a lot, so I guess there's that whole "Yeah, this is good, but it's no Boogie Nights" type deal going on
bug
terrible
3/10
thought it was about bugs
but it was about junkies
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;43700518]There's a lot to Taxi Driver. It's one of my favourite screenplays (and one of my favourite films).
I feel the Boogie Nights and Goodfellas are pretty similar. (PTA himself admitted this, and actually cited it as a flaw but imo it's not; like he felt he hadn't evolved enough to be his own man at the time, relying too much on the works of his favourite directors instead) PTA uses the same POV, tracking shots, use of music etc that Scorsese does but they worked better in Boogie Nights to me. They're both about family, and the glamour of a dodgy business, and follow similar structures. I think though, it's possible I'm being unfair to Scorsese since for one thing he did it first and PTA simply looked at it and tried to make it better (not to demean PTA's work though- he's one of the best directors around), and Boogie Nights has jumped right up into my favourite films list. And Goodfellas reminded me of it a lot, so I guess there's that whole "Yeah, this is good, but it's no Boogie Nights" type deal going on[/QUOTE]
Not to drag this out any longer but yeah there are quite a few unmistakable similarities to Goodfellas but beyond that, the life of Henry Hill and the people who surround him, his idealistic view of the gangster lifestyle, the characters, criminal and violent activities, the nature of the rise and fall and the conclusion/where the characters end up and how it all ties up together, is what I think separates Goodfellas from Boogie Nights to me. It also covers a larger time scale than Boogie Nights, so the music, set design and costumes/clothes also kinda helped me separate the two films.
But this could also be do to the fact that I emphasised with Henry Hill (despite him being a shithead) a lot more than Eddie Adams.
[I]Shutter Island[/I] is a Scorsese movie?
After you guys were talking a lot about Boogie Nights I decided to give it a try. You weren't kidding - it's really a terrific film, and there are huge similarities with The Wolf of the Wall Street.
And shit, that scene when all stories are culminating at once, with haunting tune. Amazing, reminded me a lot of [sp]final sequence of Requiem for a Dream, when all main characters end up the same way[/sp]
Worth a watch, 4.5 out of 5.
The drug deal scene is literally one of the best I've seen in. film. So perfect
I'm curious as to why you didn't like the Departed, I thought it was near perfect
also speaking of Django yall need to see 12 Years a Slave, fuckin amazing
I love The Departed
The Hunt (Jagten) 9/10
Great writing, great acting. Many scenes were hard to watch.[sp]I predicted the final scene but it still scared me, it was so tense. I loved the open ending. It said so much more than any resolution to the story could have said. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;43705921]I'm curious as to why you didn't like the Departed, I thought it was near perfect
also speaking of Django yall need to see 12 Years a Slave, fuckin amazing[/QUOTE]
6/10 disregarding subject matter (7 cus it's a slave movie i guess)
12 years a slave was a great insight in to the lives and slaves and stuff, but other than that it didn't really make an impact with me. acting was adequate and all that but was i supposed to feel something? the trailers and reviews made out it be a brutal and emotional movie but i thought it fell flat on that. i felt like i was watching a documentary with great production values minus the additional facts and details of a documentary. I got some feels when he returned to his family but i didn't really get the whole message behind it other than slavery is bad (No, i am not trying to undermine slavery's significance in history or immorality, the movie just didn't stick out from the rest). or was the whole outlining point of the movie the "Normal man thrust from one spectrum of society to the other and profoundly affected at the end".
idk. this movie wasn't bad at all. i just don't know what makes it so special.
if you think that it's a 6/10 (or a 7 because it's a slave movie (???)) I don't really know what to say
the fact that you got like no emotion from it is baffling me
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;43706682]if you think that it's a 6/10 (or a 7 because it's a slave movie (???) I don't really know what to say
the fact that you got like no emotion from it is baffling me[/QUOTE]
i did get emotion from the movie. i was just passively bummed out through it all, nothing much. yea i got sad when the lady got separated from her kids, solomon whipping a girl, the hanging of 2 slaves in the woods etc. The ending also confused how I was supposed to feel. It was telling me that I was supposed to feel okay that Solomon was reunited with his family, even though his friend was still at the plantation, others still suffering etc. It might be the way the movie presented it, just immensely focusing on Solomon and slavery just being a backdrop. That's all it seemed like, a backdrop, nothing more.
The Man with the Golden Gun
4/5
I dunno why, but this one always had some sort of charm to it that I found likeable. Probably because of Christopher Lee. Anyway, it's not a particularly great Bond film, but I enjoyed it.
I finished the new Riddick.
It went from bleugh to okay to bleugh again. Felt like they were trying to make lightning strike twice. Definitely wasn't as good as Pitch Black, and was sorta on par with The Chronicles of Riddick.
I just watched through all 4 Terminator movies again, and I've realised what they're really about is motorcycles and big menacing trucks.
Reading about Terminator Genesis annoys me though. Apparently it's meant to be set pre-judgement day in 2011?! What a load of horse shit "I know let's just retcon everything and not continue the story of Salvation"
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;43700518]There's a lot to Taxi Driver. It's one of my favourite screenplays (and one of my favourite films).
I feel the Boogie Nights and Goodfellas are pretty similar. (PTA himself admitted this, and actually cited it as a flaw but imo it's not; like he felt he hadn't evolved enough to be his own man at the time, relying too much on the works of his favourite directors instead) PTA uses the same POV, tracking shots, use of music etc that Scorsese does but they worked better in Boogie Nights to me. They're both about family, and the glamour of a dodgy business, and follow similar structures. I think though, it's possible I'm being unfair to Scorsese since for one thing he did it first and PTA simply looked at it and tried to make it better (not to demean PTA's work though- he's one of the best directors around), and Boogie Nights has jumped right up into my favourite films list. And Goodfellas reminded me of it a lot, so I guess there's that whole "Yeah, this is good, but it's no Boogie Nights" type deal going on[/QUOTE]
I think the relation between the characters in Boogie Nights felt more like a family than the characters in Goodfellas.
Which makes it work more than Goodfellas according to me.
Also, I think that the drug dealing scene in Boogie Nights is better than any scenes in Goodfellas which is a huge accomplishment for PTA.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;43705964]I love The Departed[/QUOTE]
The Departed was awesome, but even Scorsese knew that it was a fucking joke awarding it with Oscar. It must felt like hitting in the face, after getting snubbed for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull or Goodfellas.
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