Super Friendly Social and Love Advice V6 - JUST FUCKING ASK HER OUT

[OogalaBoogal]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346687]18, but I will be going to college in a couple years and I need something to do in the meantime.[/QUOTE]

going to do some life direction here:

what do you like doing? do you like your drawing the most, or is there some other skill that you'd like to develop?

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;43346777]going to do some life direction here:

what do you like doing? do you like your drawing the most, or is there some other skill that you'd like to develop?[/QUOTE]

What I like is drawing and eventually animation, but honestly I'm still learning and nobody is going to pay me for [URL="http://imgur.com/a/Igt0G"]this[/URL].

I want to be a storyboard artist, animator, and possibly a screenwriter. In the long run like maybe 15 years from now I want to create my own cartoon series, but at the moment I need something to do.

[OogalaBoogal]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346829]What I like is drawing and eventually animation, but honestly I'm still learning and nobody is going to pay me for [URL="http://imgur.com/a/Igt0G"]this[/URL].

I want to be a storyboard artist, animator, and possibly a screenwriter. In the long run like maybe 15 years from now I want to create my own cartoon series, but at the moment I need something to do.[/QUOTE]

stop waiting for that far off dream to happen. go to art school! specialize in film and animation!

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;43346877]stop waiting for that far off dream to happen. go to art school! specialize in film and animation![/QUOTE]

I will be going to college, but that's like two years from now. I don't know if there are any art schools open.

I also still have high school because I fucked up grades 9 and 10 so badly, I'll be out by February 2015.

[Metherat]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346829]What I like is drawing and eventually animation, but honestly I'm still learning and nobody is going to pay me for [URL="http://imgur.com/a/Igt0G"]this[/URL].

I want to be a storyboard artist, animator, and possibly a screenwriter. In the long run like maybe 15 years from now I want to create my own cartoon series, but at the moment I need something to do.[/QUOTE]

Dude... You're getting better. Keep at those studies- they look good. And yeah, set lower goals. Don't try to become this awesome animator in a day, just try to get better with each day. If you keep getting better, eventually you'll be at the high level that you are dreaming of now.

[OogalaBoogal]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346924]I will be going to college, but that's like two years from now. I don't know if there are any art schools open.

I also still have high school because I fucked up grades 9 and 10 so badly, I'll be out by February 2015.[/QUOTE]

a year is a long time. you've got plenty of time to make your dreams come true. just focus on practising, you've shown your artwork on the forums before and I've noticed it's been getting better.

there are many really great art and film schools in canada, i think you can do it.

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=Metherat;43347523]Dude... You're getting better. Keep at those studies- they look good. And yeah, set lower goals. Don't try to become this awesome animator in a day, just try to get better with each day. If you keep getting better, eventually you'll be at the high level that you are dreaming of now.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I'm going back to basics including shapes ans shading. I'll be doing this for a month and after I'll focus mainly on proportion.

Hopefully I'll be able to produce something good after six months

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;43347629]a year is a long time. you've got plenty of time to make your dreams come true. just focus on practising, you've shown your artwork on the forums before and I've noticed it's been getting better.

there are many really great art and film schools in canada, i think you can do it.[/QUOTE]

I hope I can find one in Halton Hills

[OogalaBoogal]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43347816]Thanks, I'm going back to basics including shapes ans shading. I'll be doing this for a month and after I'll focus mainly on proportion.

Hopefully I'll be able to produce something good after six months

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

I hope I can find one in Halton Hills[/QUOTE]

if you commute to toronto you'll find wonderful things

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;43347899]if you commute to toronto you'll find wonderful things[/QUOTE]

I'm living with my parents still so I'll ask them, thanks for helping. My grandma is also artistic so I'll see if I can get her to help.

[NoShogun]

So my friends and I were cruising around a few nights ago and we ended up at a McDonald's drive-thru at like 2AM and the girl working the drive through was seriously one of the cutest girls I've ever seen
How would I go about talking to/asking out someone in this situation? Cause 30 seconds at a drive thru isn't exactly normal circumstances.

[chinatown]

Go for her number I guess, then arrange a date with her

[Jo The Shmo]

[QUOTE=Heigou;43336532]Don't beat yourself over it m8, the Quebec school system kinda sucks and after high school you need 2 years at the collegial level just to meet the requirements for undergrad studies at university.

I'm turning 22 in like a month and because I'm a fucking idiot, I tried to cut corners when I finished high school and went for a shitty technical diploma and now that I want to start University, I'll be starting damn late.[/QUOTE]

did you do cegep or are you saying you did something else instead of cegep? just curious

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=loopoo;43334445]People in 2nd year of Uni are 18? Jesus Christ. I'm 21 and going into my first year. I feel awful.

Nah, 16/18 isn't bad at all. I just thought he'd be around 20/21 for some reason.

Damn, son, you musta been an ace student.[/QUOTE]

i just want to elaborate on why i thought this was a dumb post

theres no "age" to start uni at. everyone is different, comes from different backgrounds, has different goals. if you start earlier it doesn't necessarily mean you're smarter (perhaps it even means you're making a mistake!) if you start later it doesn't mean you're a slacker, it just means you chose that path
acting like there is one set time to start university is the wrong outlook on life, and I think it's a problem that's been getting larger and larger. nobody has to go to university if it's not the right choice for them

[Guy Mannly]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346687]18, but I will be going to college in a couple years and I need something to do in the meantime.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, quit school and get a GED. I dropped out at the beginning of 10th grade. Once you're 18 you're not legally required to be in HS anymore in many US states. The GED is INCREDIBLY easy if you have basic writing, reading, and math skills. I scored in the 99th percentile of high school graduates when I took my exam and this was without any studying involved for me.

When I got my GED I was 17, since I had dropped out of hs I was required to take a class for a few months that "prepared" me for the test. In my state this class was only required if you were under 18, otherwise it was completely optional iirc. I got perfect scores on the practice test they gave me going into the program so I ended up tutoring the other students the entire time I was there. The program also was supposed to teach you skills to get a job since a lot of people in it weren't planning on going for a higher education. It focused on things like writing resumes, learning basic skills like typing etc, and how to deal with job interviews. I was required to work a certain number of hours a week and worked for my mom's friend as an intern until I was done. Once I got my GED I started college, I took my classes a bit slower initially than I should have but right now I'm set to get my associates' at the same time my own class in high school would be getting theirs.

Community college is such a good, inexpensive option for someone who wasn't a straight A student in high school. There's such ridiculous social stigma against community college but there's honestly nothing wrong with starting there. There are a lot of unis that will easily accept you if you have a 2 year degree from a local community college. Not going to a university straight away isn't as much of an issue as society makes it seem like.

Please message me if you're curious about any of this, I really think you should do this instead of wasting 2 more years in high school.

[Jo The Shmo]

hello im just playing the devils advocate here but dont just drop out of high school cause someone on the internet told you it was a good idea
at least give it a lot of thought

[Guy Mannly]

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;43350622]hello im just playing the devils advocate here but dont just drop out of high school cause someone on the internet told you it was a good idea
at least give it a lot of thought[/QUOTE]

I would assume he would do that either way. He lives with his parents after all, they're definitely going to have input on the matter.

But high school really doesn't teach you the skills needed to prepare you for college unless you're taking advanced classes specifically for that purpose. At the very least I want him to know this is an option, I got very lucky finding out there was a way to start my college education early without the bullshit 7 hour days being stuffed in a cess pool of teenage angst.

[Jo The Shmo]

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;43350671]I would assume he would do that either way. But high school really doesn't teach you the skills needed to prepare you for college unless you're taking advanced classes specifically for that purpose. At the very least I want him to know this is an option, I got very lucky finding out there was a way to start my college education early without the bullshit 7 hour days being stuffed in a cess pool of teenage angst.[/QUOTE]

not all high schools are like that. i can't speak for yours, maybe yours was a shit school, but mine ended up teaching me a lot of useful things, even near the end of it!
my senior year english teacher was a hard-ass who made us write essays all the time, and he graded everyone personally, so you really had to show improvement in order to even get a mediocre mark.
but im really glad i had him, thanks to him i learned a TON about writing and communicating in general, and I actually feel like I'm a step ahead in that area compared to a lot of my peers
I could list off more anecdotal evidence but that's besides the point
high school does serve a purpose and not everyone benefits from dropping out

[Heigou]

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;43350125]did you do cegep or are you saying you did something else instead of cegep? just curious[/QUOTE]

As I said earlier, in my younger days I was unfortunately a bit stupid and just wanted to cut corners and get out of school fast so I went for a 2 years technical in IT, about to finish it in a few months so all I have under my belt is my High school diploma and then the technical that I'm about to get. I feel a bit like shit since I'm turning 22 in less than a month and it's all I have under my belt when people I know who are 18, turning 19 soon are already on their way to their second year of university.

I'm still hoping to be able to make something out of myself even if it might take a long time.

[Guy Mannly]

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;43350714]not all high schools are like that. i can't speak for yours, maybe yours was a shit school, but mine ended up teaching me a lot of useful things, even near the end of it!
my senior year english teacher was a hard-ass who made us write essays all the time, and he graded everyone personally, so you really had to show improvement in order to even get a mediocre mark.
but im really glad i had him, thanks to him i learned a TON about writing and communicating in general, and I actually feel like I'm a step ahead in that area compared to a lot of my peers
I could list off more anecdotal evidence but that's besides the point
high school does serve a purpose and not everyone benefits from dropping out[/QUOTE]

Everything I'm saying is with the assumption that he's capable of independent thought and judging the situation on his own (I don't mean to sound condescending by saying this). Like I said, I'm sure his parents will have an opinion on this either way.

I went to what's considered one of the best high schools in the country, but that's not really relevant since I dropped out halfway through. I agree that high school can have benefits but if he's retaking two years of it, unless he's a straight A student right now, I'm guessing he hasn't gotten much out of it. I was taking pre-IB classes up until a few months before I dropped out and didn't learn how to study effectively until this year when my second year of college. I had switched into "normal" classes in my last few months and found the classroom environment incredibly disruptive because the only students at my school who didn't take IB classes were the ones who hated school and didn't give a shit about their grades. It was impossible to focus in classes with them because they were loud, disruptive, and wouldn't take the subject matter seriously, meaning we spent more time than necessary covering the same concepts over and over again. So you could say my perspective is a bit biased. My boyfriend had a similar experience to you and got a lot more out of it but that was because he was taking AP classes.

Nobody is completely prepared for college regardless of how well you do in high school because of how different it is from hs - you're required to be completely independent and nobody's around to pressure you to do your work or give you structure for studying. I got C's throughout middle school and 9th/10th grade and never learned to study because nobody, not even my parents, would teach me proper study skills. It wasn't until I moved out and my boyfriend (who has been in college for 2 years more than me and is finishing his bachelor's degree right now) started helping me with my math homework that I learned how to study.

Regardless, if he's serious about pursuing art, it isn't going to matter if he ends up in a prestigious university or not. When looking for work as an artist, people won't look at where you went to school, they're going to look at your portfolio and see if you're skilled at what you do. I wouldn't recommend skipping out on high school on the assumption that he's still going to want to pursue art 4 years from now, but I think delaying his education by 2 years isn't worth the time when he could learn all the study skills he needs in his first few years of college - especially when not every high school provides an education that prepares you for college.

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

But I will agree that I probably came off as brash with my previous post, I got excited that someone was in the same situation was me and that I had the experience to provide help. If I hadn't found out that getting a GED early was an option I would probably still be wasting my time in high school right now instead of finishing up my last semester for my associates' degree.

[Daniel Smith]

I'm very mixed on this. I have 2 semesters left (it's actually one year not two, I got my math wrong because I suck at math). I like the idea of just dropping out and passing a test but I don't think I can do that at this high school.

[Rhenae]

High school wont matter too much in terms of getting in to most art schools anyway, a vast majority accept based on portfolio rather than grades (although if you can find a local government funded one like NBCCD here in Fredericton they should be a "you passed highschool, welcome on in" type)

If you cant find something out there come over to Freddy, school here is an awesome environment to be learning in :v:
Meanwhile, start a daily sketchbook. Do studies daily. The main thing schools want to see is that you can improve, and those are the best way to show it (and most require or at least want one with your app if its a portfolio style school)

[Aries]

I've been away from this thread for like a month because i've been super busy and even if none of you recognise my posts or username I would just like to say merry christmas and happy new year to all of you xoxoxo <3

[Jo The Shmo]

you make some good points and a lot of what you're saying has truth but you also keep making these sweeping statements like this:
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;43350916]
Nobody is completely prepared for college regardless of how well you do in high school because of how different it is from hs [/QUOTE]
which is simply not true, you can't speak for everyone based on the experience of you and those around you

colleges know what they're getting from the typical high schooler and it does work out for a lot of people

[Guy Mannly]

Emphasis on "completely"

I'm not saying you can't prepare for it, I'm saying it's much different from hs

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

Some people struggle in high school and end up having a much easier time in college, and vice versa, because of how different they are. College emphasizes independence and self-motivation while in high school your teachers will often work with you personally to help.

[Dick Slamfist]

Just came home from the girl I've been fancy for's house for the night.
Spent the whole thing rather cuddly on her bed watching National Treasure.
I can't tell if I'm such a non threat I was allowed to do that or if I've got a clear in.

[Deadman123]

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;43352952]Emphasis on "completely"

I'm not saying you can't prepare for it, I'm saying it's much different from hs

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

Some people struggle in high school and end up having a much easier time in college, and vice versa, because of how different they are. College emphasizes independence and self-motivation while in high school your teachers will often work with you personally to help.[/QUOTE]

I follow this thread relatively silently, and I've noticed you do this a lot. You force opinions down people's throats a lot, with an air of 'im right you're not' in your posts a lot.
I like you as a person but you should really stop being pretty thickheaded and stuck in your own beliefs :v:

[Guy Mannly]

All I was trying to do is open up an option to someone who's in a similar situation to me. I wasn't trying to be "forceful" about my opinions in the same way you probably weren't trying to sound like an ass by criticizing my personality based on a few sentences I've written online that have no emotional context to them.

I don't post here to argue. I wouldn't be in this thread in the first place if I didn't think the regulars were respectable people with worthwhile opinions. If I thought I was above anyone here I wouldn't even be sharing my perspective because I would consider it a waste of time. Again, I'm not trying to argue - all I'm trying to do is have a discussion and share my own experiences and reasoning. I'm not here to change anybody's mind.

[Dick Slamfist]

[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;43353322]Just came home from the girl I've been fancy for's house for the night.
Spent the whole thing rather cuddly on her bed watching National Treasure.
I can't tell if I'm such a non threat I was allowed to do that or if I've got a clear in.[/QUOTE]

I meant to ask, how can I steer this more towards going somewhere?
I don't mean to be conceited but a part of me feels if she's willing to invite me over to lay on her bed and [I]soooooooooooooort[/I] of cuddle watching movies that seems a little more than friendly

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43346628]I have no useful skills in life. I don't know anything about economics, math, science etc. and the only thing I can do is draw but I'm not good enough to make a living from it. I'm trying to improve but it will take years and that's not soon enough for me to survive on my own. I don't want to work as a janitor or in a cubicle but I have no other options.[/QUOTE]

youre doing it for the wrong reason. set up goals for what you want to accomplish in your art form and try to see what you need to accomplish those goals. you'll do a lot of good work that no-one will ever pay you for because it's just part of creating art.

critique your own work strongly and see what you need to work on in order to meet your own standard for being "good enough". constructive self-criticism is an important part of improving and completely different from self-deprecation which is what you are indulging yourself in. when i draw i know the flaws and the mistakes and i try to improve on them as much as possible. for example i have a poor understanding of shadowing and proportions; i need to work on those and saying "im awful etc..." just won't fix them.

and not to be too down, but no-one wants to work as a janitor or work in a cubicle; sometimes the circumstances force you to work those jobs. be thankful when you don't have to.

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;43350125]
i just want to elaborate on why i thought this was a dumb post

theres no "age" to start uni at. everyone is different, comes from different backgrounds, has different goals. if you start earlier it doesn't necessarily mean you're smarter (perhaps it even means you're making a mistake!) if you start later it doesn't mean you're a slacker, it just means you chose that path
acting like there is one set time to start university is the wrong outlook on life, and I think it's a problem that's been getting larger and larger. nobody has to go to university if it's not the right choice for them[/QUOTE]

theres a lot of statistics that show people are better students if they go to college at a slightly older age. there's no set time necessarily, but id say for most people going to university a little later is a good choice unless they have a set goal they need to accomplish with university.

[editline]29th December 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Deadman123;43353349]I follow this thread relatively silently, and I've noticed you do this a lot. You force opinions down people's throats a lot, with an air of 'im right you're not' in your posts a lot.
I like you as a person but you should really stop being pretty thickheaded and stuck in your own beliefs :v:[/QUOTE]

i dont know what you were trying to accomplish with this but you should never try to accomplish it ever again

[Jake]

[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;43353423]I meant to ask, how can I steer this more towards going somewhere?
I don't mean to be conceited but a part of me feels if she's willing to invite me over to lay on her bed and [I]soooooooooooooort[/I] of cuddle watching movies that seems a little more than friendly[/QUOTE]
I dunno, man. I think a girl's gotta be into you if she invites you to lay on her bed and [i]sorta[/i] cuddle with her while you watch Nic Cage steal the Declaration of Independence.

But in all seriousness, how well do you know her and what do you mean by "sort of cuddle?"

[Dick Slamfist]

[QUOTE=psychojake;43354136]I dunno, man. I think a girl's gotta be into you if she invites you to lay on her bed and [i]sorta[/i] cuddle with her while you watch Nic Cage steal the Declaration of Independence.

But in all seriousness, how well do you know her and what do you mean by "sort of cuddle?"[/QUOTE]

Like, she's putting her head on my shoulders, sorta sitting on me a bit, got her arms around me etc