Super Friendly Social and Love Advice V6 - JUST FUCKING ASK HER OUT

[junker154]

[QUOTE=ImpSnob;46913578]thanks, also I dunno why I was dumbed but if I said something dumb in that post, sorry[/QUOTE]

I think you are not the only one with this situation, I had countless times where I did not know how to approach a girl.

[It's crispy]

jfc roflburger people are trying really hard to help you here

either listen to what they're saying or go away

[Remedial Math]

if you're wondering why girls don't like you it's probably not your appearance

i can hazard a guess as to your bigger red flags if you want

[junker154]

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46913773]if you're wondering why girls don't like you it's probably not your appearance

i can hazard a guess as to your bigger red flags if you want[/QUOTE]

This is so true, honestly personality goes a long way and one thing in particular is gestures in general. Your hands, facial expressions and general posture makes an absolutely huge difference.

Sure, good looks are one thing but it already helps when you just look clean and soigné. The way you talk and move makes a large difference how people perceive you as a person.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Eric95;46913671]jfc roflburger people are trying really hard to help you here

either listen to what they're saying or go away[/QUOTE]

Who says I'm not listening?

I'm waiting for people to give suggestions for clean facial hair, I am planning to go shopping and purchasing some plaid shirts, and I'm already trying to lose weight.

[Loopoo]

[QUOTE=junker154;46913813]This is so true, honestly personality goes a long way and one thing in particular is gestures in general. Your hands, facial expressions and general posture makes an absolutely huge difference.

Sure, good looks are one thing but it already helps when you just look clean and soigné. The way you talk and move makes a large difference how people perceive you as a person.[/QUOTE]

My friends and I were at the pub last night and there was this new kid there who a friend invited and he was so awkward. Like straight up weird / creepy. I did my best to try and introduce him to the conversation multiple times, but he spent the entire night staring vacantly into the center of our social group.

So yeah, definitely, posture and gestures go a long way. This kid was like a robot and spent the entire time hunched over. I really didn't enjoy hanging out with him, he was ridiculously boring and he had the emotional range of a potato and the charisma of a rock.

Looks don't mean jack shit in the grand scheme of things, if you're funny and likeable, that goes further. It's been scientifically proven that you can be emotionally attracted to someone - looking nice physically just makes it easier for a person to want to get to know you.

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46913824]Who says I'm not listening?

I'm waiting for people to give suggestions for clean facial hair, I am planning to go shopping and purchasing some plaid shirts, and I'm already trying to lose weight.[/QUOTE]

Go to the fashion advice thread.

[ROFLBURGER]

Well I'm sorry I'm in the wrong thread I guess?

[junker154]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46914024]Well I'm sorry I'm in the wrong thread I guess?[/QUOTE]

I think you just start to look like a massive attention whore because you keep on commenting on this topic and replying without adding anything new or helpful in any shape or form.

[QUOTE=loopoo;46913991]My friends and I were at the pub last night and there was this new kid there who a friend invited and he was so awkward. Like straight up weird / creepy. I did my best to try and introduce him to the conversation multiple times, but he spent the entire night staring vacantly into the center of our social group.

So yeah, definitely, posture and gestures go a long way. This kid was like a robot and spent the entire time hunched over. I really didn't enjoy hanging out with him, he was ridiculously boring and he had the emotional range of a potato and the charisma of a rock.

Looks don't mean jack shit in the grand scheme of things, if you're funny and likeable, that goes further. It's been scientifically proven that you can be emotionally attracted to someone - looking nice physically just makes it easier for a person to want to get to know you.
Go to the fashion advice thread.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, it can be quite difficult to be introduced into a new group of people. It's somewhat intimidating. I consider myself really sociable but if I join some friends, I have a hard time at times to adapt myself. Usually I just stick with one or two persons that I really get along with and expand from there. But yeah, looking confident and just like a decent person helps a lot.

Fashion advice thread is horrible.

[Loopoo]

[QUOTE=junker154;46914039]I think you just start to look like a massive attention because you keep on commenting on this topic without adding anything new or helpful in any shape or form.[/QUOTE]

Same shit always happens. It's why I made the post in the first place.

I'm all for helping people out, but if you're coming in just to get a pat on the head, wanting people to fawn over you, it's just a waste of time. The victim act gets old.

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=junker154;46914039]To be honest, it can be quite difficult to be introduced into a new group of people. It's somewhat intimidating. I consider myself really sociable but if I join some friends, I have a hard time at times to adapt myself. Usually I just stick with one or two persons that I really get along with and expand from there. But yeah, looking confident and just like a decent person helps a lot.

Fashion advice thread is horrible.[/QUOTE]

Everyone was really warm towards the guy, to be fair. I just think he might be very socially anxious. It's like he didn't really wanna be there. I have a feeling you're not the type that would be anywhere near as bad as he was! I offered him a lift home at the end of the night but he straight out refused and walked on his own, despite me insisting he tag along. The girl who invited him was gonna walk back with him but I straight up told her that I'd not let her walk home alone in the dark (since he lived far away from her). In the end, she agreed and I dropped all my friends off in the car and he got to walk home on his own like he wanted.

I haven't been to fashion advice in years, but I figured it'd suit him better since he's talking about shirts and beard.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=junker154;46914039]I think you just start to look like a massive attention because you keep on commenting on this topic without adding anything new or helpful in any shape or form.[/QUOTE]

Ok so what do you want me to say? What do you me want to contribute? I told everyone everything they needed to know and provided a picture.

[Remedial Math]

And then ignored or criticized every single piece of advice you were given.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=loopoo;46914057]Same shit always happens. It's why I made the post in the first place.
[/QUOTE]

Did you read nothing I posted? I ask for advice, then for whatever reason you come along saying I don't follow advice for no legitimate reason then when I flip out you say "See I told you guys!!!!"

Just because I don't follow your awful advice doesn't mean I don't follow anyone else's advice

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46914084]And then ignored or criticized every single piece of advice you were given.[/QUOTE]

No I just ignored loopoo's advice, which wasn't really advice at all because it was so misinformed.

[junker154]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46914074]Ok so what do you want me to say? What do you me want to contribute? I told everyone everything they needed to know and provided a picture.[/QUOTE]

Stop asking obsolete questions in this thread and trying to explain yourself in a pitiful manner.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=junker154;46909064]You look really good, you have a nice symmetrical face. I'd suggest just taking care of your beard, make it look nicer or get rid off it completely. Also get some nice clothes, shirts always helped me out and makes you look nicer. Depends on the person though but I could imagine you wearing some plaid shirts.
There is also generic advice like staying in shape which is always kind of good but honestly you look fine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=cricket50;46909045]was expecting much worse. lose a little weight, work out, get some nice clothes and youl look good. you aint even ugly[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rhenae;46909083]There isn't much we can advise if you don't like fairly non changeable parts of your appearance (nose/jawline). There is literally nothing we can do if you won't accept that they look fine. Fix the things you can fix (nicer looking beard I guess the beard guys have spoken, I can't grow a beard what do I know) clothing, work out etc and don't worry about what you can't change. The small stuff like that isn't a bit deal to anyone else.[/QUOTE]

I'm following this advice, I'm trying to loose weight, I'm asking for follow ups on proper facial hair, and next time I go shopping I'll purchase some plaid shirts.
What advice am I missing because people are getting upset when I apparently don't follow advice?

[QUOTE=junker154;46914114]Stop asking obsolete questions in this thread and trying to explain yourself in a pitiful manner.[/QUOTE]

Obsolete? Ok what am I supposed to ask then? I thought it was a decent question because it involves my self-esteem and self-image

[Remedial Math]

TO SUMMARIZE, since you're apparently too dumb to recognize advice when you see it.

1. You look fine. Smile more, if you can imitate a happy person enough to pull it off.

2. Go to the gym. Good for your general health and self esteem. Plus you meet gay guys there or something probably, I'm not gay so I don't know where they hang out. /fit/ makes me assume you'll go to the gym and immediately get fucked by hulking musclemen.

3. Get a job. I didn't read everything because quite frankly you annoy me and if I can avoid exposing myself to your whining then I will, but I'm betting you're NEET and probably will say that you have job anxiety or something else that people say when they're lazy. Stop complaining and get a job. Even if you hate your job you'll be happier since at least you're being slightly productive and/or not a burden on society like you are now.

4. Stop being such a bitch. I'm not sure if this will happen before or after you get a job but if it happens before you get a job you're more likely to actually get a job.

5. Go to a therapist. You'll probably need money for that, so get a job first or see if it's on your medical insurance or something. If you were going to school you could use the school's therapists but you're not so you can't. If you went before and it didn't help then you saw a shitty one because you clearly need help and if they can't see that then they're not good.

6. Stop posting here. This should be number 1, probably. You're not helping, you're ignoring advice, and you're just generally shitty and annoying.

[junker154]

I think you should just start playing with your dick if you feel bored instead of being dense.

[Remedial Math]

with love, remedial math

xoxo

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

or, more likely, ignore all advice, continue to shit up the thread with your general self pity that no one shares or cares about, and die alone

i mean either outcome is fine for me, really

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46914144]TO SUMMARIZE, since you're apparently too dumb to recognize advice when you see it.

1. You look fine. Smile more, if you can imitate a happy person enough to pull it off.

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"You look fine" isn't advice. Smile more is and that's never been said.

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2. Go to the gym. Good for your general health and self esteem. Plus you meet gay guys there or something probably, I'm not gay so I don't know where they hang out. /fit/ makes me assume you'll go to the gym and immediately get fucked by hulking musclemen.
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Ok that's what I'm doing

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3. Get a job. I didn't read everything because quite frankly you annoy me and if I can avoid exposing myself to your whining then I will, but I'm betting you're NEET and probably will say that you have job anxiety or something else that people say when they're lazy. Stop complaining and get a job. Even if you hate your job you'll be happier since at least you're being slightly productive and/or not a burden on society like you are now.

4. Stop being such a bitch. I'm not sure if this will happen before or after you get a job but if it happens before you get a job you're more likely to actually get a job.
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ok so here's what gets me you're calling me lazy and I'm not allowed to say why I have job anxiety because I'm a bitch.

thats like stating an opinion and saying "you're a bitch if you try to disprove it because I'm right"

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5. Go to a therapist. You'll probably need money for that, so get a job first or see if it's on your medical insurance or something. If you were going to school you could use the school's therapists but you're not so you can't. If you went before and it didn't help then you saw a shitty one because you clearly need help and if they can't see that then they're not good.
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I'm already seeing a therapist

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6. Stop posting here. This should be number 1, probably. You're not helping, you're ignoring advice, and you're just generally shitty and annoying.[/QUOTE]

I wonder why I have a shitty attitude towards people who post like this

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

Like seriously I'm really sorry if I'm shitting up the thread but I just fucking hate it when people claim they know more about me than I know about myself and that I'm not following advice when most of my life choices were made from following other people's advice. Even worse is when I try to correct them people just say "You're a whiny bitch"

Like how do you expect me to react to someone who says "you don't follow advice, here follow this advice that you're already following and some advice that's just incorrect"

[Loopoo]

Deja vu :) Same happened last time and it carried on for like 8 pages cause roflburger has the world's severest case of victim complex.

Can we all just drop it? If you have genuine questions, rofl, ask away. But do us all a favour: don't post something dripping with derogatory remarks about yourself, it doesn't help at all. State clearly what you want help with, you're either vague or contradictory.

And most importantly, fuck off with the sob story bullshit, it's so counterproductive:
[IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/81d80a913a9581027da09a69a1448788.png[/IMG]

[editline]13th January 2015[/editline]

You were told by numerous people you look fine. Anonymous people over the internet have no reason to make up false compliments about you. So instead of taking everything everyone replies to you with and coming up with some way of disproving it, try and take their kind words to heart. Look back at the previous page when Rhenae said you look fine and when Remedial said you look fine.

Also, stop blowing up and writing massive essays and getting really defensive.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=loopoo;46914231]
Can we all just drop it? If you have genuine questions, rofl, ask away. But do us all a favour: don't post something dripping with derogatory remarks about yourself, it doesn't help at all. State clearly what you want help with, you're either vague or contradictory.

And most importantly, fuck off with the sob story bullshit, it's so counterproductive:
[IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/81d80a913a9581027da09a69a1448788.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I'm asking genuine questions but people are flipping shit and telling me to fuck off or posting completely unrelated shit.

[quote]Deja vu :) Same happened last time and it carried on for like 8 pages cause roflburger has the world's severest case of victim complex.[/quote]

Like what the fuck? This never happened?

[QUOTE]
You were told by numerous people you look fine. Anonymous people over the internet have no reason to make up false compliments about you. So instead of taking everything everyone replies to you with and coming up with some way of disproving it, try and take their kind words to heart. Look back at the previous page when Rhenae said you look fine and when Remedial said you look fine.

Also, stop blowing up and writing massive essays and getting really defensive.[/QUOTE]

Honestly that gave me a massive self-esteem boost, I wanted to thank them but when you showed up and said some really depressing shit I just couldn't really say thank you anymore

[Loopoo]

You're pretty deluded, buddy. Me posting my "depressing shit" came 11 hours after you'd actually received the compliments. Textbook definition martyr complex.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=loopoo;46914305]You're pretty deluded, buddy. Me posting my "depressing shit" came 11 hours after you'd actually received the compliments. Textbook definition martyr complex.[/QUOTE]

That was when I was sleeping.

16 hours ago was 12 in the morning for me, after I made that comment about beard ideas I went to bed to wait for the replies and I saw your post and it's like "what the hell"

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

Yeah I think I'm done here. I don't know what people are talking about when they say I had a similar breakdown that lasted [URL="http://facepunch.com/search.php?searchid=5841516"]"like 8 pages"[/URL] and if I try to defend myself people say "victim complex" or "you're a whiny bitch" so I should just stop

[Taepodong-2]

Jesus dick it's like looking into a mirror image of myself from two years ago at this point.

[source]

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46914144]TO SUMMARIZE, since you're apparently too dumb to recognize advice when you see it.

1. You look fine. Smile more, if you can imitate a happy person enough to pull it off.

2. Go to the gym. Good for your general health and self esteem. Plus you meet gay guys there or something probably, I'm not gay so I don't know where they hang out. /fit/ makes me assume you'll go to the gym and immediately get fucked by hulking musclemen.

3. Get a job. I didn't read everything because quite frankly you annoy me and if I can avoid exposing myself to your whining then I will, but I'm betting you're NEET and probably will say that you have job anxiety or something else that people say when they're lazy. Stop complaining and get a job. Even if you hate your job you'll be happier since at least you're being slightly productive and/or not a burden on society like you are now.

4. Stop being such a bitch. I'm not sure if this will happen before or after you get a job but if it happens before you get a job you're more likely to actually get a job.

5. Go to a therapist. You'll probably need money for that, so get a job first or see if it's on your medical insurance or something. If you were going to school you could use the school's therapists but you're not so you can't. If you went before and it didn't help then you saw a shitty one because you clearly need help and if they can't see that then they're not good.

6. Stop posting here. This should be number 1, probably. You're not helping, you're ignoring advice, and you're just generally shitty and annoying.[/QUOTE]

The "Super Friendly" part of this advice thread is still something you haven't grasped yet, and I've noticed it instantly when I started posting again. Quit being a condescending asshole.

[Rhenae]

A few people seem to have forgotten the friendly part.

Ignoring the drama above, why is it you have job anxiety since that seems to be a problem being ignored here so far?

[Remedial Math]

People were friendly and he ignored them, I was trying a different approach. It still didn't work.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Fort83;46914834]Is it weird that I don't particularly care or want to be in another relationship for quite awhile? Just got out of one in November which wasn't that great looking back. Before that one I was always looking towards my next relationship but after this one I just don't care about it. I'm 23, not in any rush to get in another one, or get married like so many of my friends do.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty normal. No one should be in a rush to get into another relationship because that never really goes well.

[editline]12th January 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Rhenae;46914961]A few people seem to have forgotten the friendly part.

Ignoring the drama above, why is it you have job anxiety since that seems to be a problem being ignored here so far?[/QUOTE]

I worked in tech support. Ironically the communication there was really subpar. I signed up for a typing job (ie EA Online Support), did a lot of typing related tests and answered quite a few typing related questions and researched what I was getting into. They asked me if I knew how to portforward and I said yes. They asked if I would take another job that was "the same thing" for a dollar an hour more and I said yes. I found out like on the 2nd day of training that it was over the phone support, I had a "how hard it could be" attitude and gave it a shot and had to quit on the fourth day of actual working because I just couldn't handle it. They only trained you with the product, not how to deal with people. The tools you used were not that good, they were "user unfriendly" and are tedious to work with. The only thing you were given to solve problems is the online instruction manual and your search engine of choice. It was way too stressful for me to handle. They wanted me to stay just because I felt really guilty about the whole situation, which made it worse ha. I do blame myself entirely because I should've took the time to ask more questions but I didn't because it was my first job and I thought I was in good hands.

[Splash Attack]

Over the phone and tech support are both pretty stressful and imo shitty jobs to have. I would recommend looking into getting a job in some other field. You could try retail or fast food; they're really not as bad as everyone puts them up to be if you get in with a decent employer. Something that involves face to face interaction with customers would be very helpful for social anxiety, as well.

Basically, you got a really shitty job that ruined all jobs for you. I think that if you just force yourself to look for another, you will be much better off. Just remember, you're not going to make much progress if you never want to leave your comfort zone.

[source]

[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46915108]People were friendly and he ignored them, I was trying a different approach. It still didn't work.[/QUOTE]

doesn't mean you have a free pass to go ballistic on him, explosively condescending additude like that wont get you far

people come to this thread for super friendly advice, as suggested by the title. You have to remember you are dealing with people, not robots. You cant just tell someone to "stop being a bitch" and expect positive results the next day, as their social environment or emotional stability are limiting factors. Id go off on somebody if they gave me that as 'advice' irl

Id like it if this was discussed in pms, this thread isnt worth getting shitted up

[Rhenae]

Oh god anything but over the phone support. That is literally the worst and most overly stressful job for shit pay ever. I can understand having some anxiety post that but just trust in the fact there are few things as terrible as what you have already experienced.