#ProudToBe [YouTube Spotlight/Huge Shitstorm in the Comments] - General

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569692]It's because you don't understand what i'm saying, and you still don't. I don't know what else you want me to say.[/QUOTE] No. You're the one who doesn't understand, and as long as you think you're the "MISUNDERSTOOD" one, the worse it's going to get. You feel like you're attacked because you don't like LGBT people, and you don't want to hear about them in a society that treats them like equals. In the 70's and 80's, killing a gay person wasn't a big deal to the cops or the society at large. Gay people died all the time for that very reason and it was all done in silence. If you understood what was actually going on, maybe you'd take a moment to listen but because you think YOU'RE the one being attacked, you refuse. You have no idea what being attacked is really like.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569675]Youtube just changed their logo and when you clicked it, it took you to their spotlight channel to auto play that video. If you ask me, that's forceful.[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/Zmf20YY.jpg[/t] Just refreshed the page five times, clicked the Youtube logo five times more. It's still an incredibly flawed argument because even if they have changed their logo to what I assume is an LGBT flag that redirects to that video and it's not showing on my end, it's in the context of the aftermath of recent events like the Orlando shooting to pay tribute. It does not constitute force in any way. [editline].[/editline] Fuck I didn't realize my recently watched shows that I've listened to two different versions of Bat Out of Hell recently. That's fucking embarrassing :v:

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50569710] I think violence against LGBTQ people needs to be stopped, but people should be able to have their own views on the topic.[/QUOTE] Nobody is arguing against you. You can have your own views, that doesn't mean your own views can't be regressive, hateful, and utterly reprehensible

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569675]Youtube just changed their logo and when you clicked it, it took you to their spotlight channel to auto play that video. If you ask me, that's forceful.[/QUOTE] 49 LGBT people killed recently. Youtube has a link on a website to a pro-LGBT video. UGH HOW DARE THEY FORCE THEIR VIEWS ON US, THOSE LGBT PEOPLE SHOULD JUST SHUT UP ALREADY, THEY ALREADY HAVE WHAT THEY WANT

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569675]Youtube just changed their logo and when you clicked it, it took you to their spotlight channel to auto play that video. If you ask me, that's forceful.[/QUOTE] youtube spotlight videos always get a secondary button next to their logo, which doesn't obstruct or remove the functionality of the homepage button

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569744]They changed it back today, it was active all of yesterday.[/QUOTE] how about you reply to arguments with fucking substance dude

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50569730]Nobody is arguing against you. You can have your own views, that doesn't mean your own views can't be regressive, hateful, and utterly reprehensible[/QUOTE] People can think whatever they want, be it anti-LGBTQ or pro-LGBTQ, as long as it doesn't involve violence, is my point. I also don't think anti-LGBTQ people are objectively wrong (some of them). For example, if an anti-LGBTQ person said "Gay people need to be oppressed- they kill babies", then that's objectively wrong. But, if someone says "I personally feel uncomfortable around transgender people, I just think it looks a little weird", then I'm okay with that.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50569763]People can think whatever they want, be it anti-LGBTQ or pro-LGBTQ, as long as it doesn't involve violence, is my point. I also don't think anti-LGBTQ people are objectively wrong.[/QUOTE] Anyone who goes to violent lengths to express their opinions are objectively wrong in my opinion. Bigots who killed gay people in the 70's, 80's and 90's because of their hatred for gay people are objectively wrong.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50569763] I also don't think anti-LGBTQ people are objectively wrong.[/QUOTE] It's alright guys, they only think you're a pedophile because you're attracted to men, They only think you're a rapist because you want to use the bathroom that matches your gender, it's an opinion and we [I]have [/I]to respect all opinions, even the ones that harm people how about no

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50569780]It's alright guys, they only think you're a pedophile because you're attracted to men, They only think you're a rapist because you want to use the bathroom that matches your gender, it's an opinion and we [I]have [/I]to respect all opinions, even the ones that harm people how about no[/QUOTE] No no no no. Sorry, I conveyed the wrong message. Updated the post

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50569763] But, if someone says "I personally feel uncomfortable around transgender people, I just think it looks a little weird", then I'm okay with that.[/QUOTE] I disagree, though I have much less of a problem with someone just saying that than if they were to play smoke and mirrors to try and mask that sentiment. Furthermore I don't even care if they just have that opinion as long as they just flat-out say it, and in my mind it's totally understandable why someone would think like that if they're not entirely familiar with LGBT issues. But it's still objectively wrong because it's completely unfounded, and they should be ready to be questioned about it. [editline]22nd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569797]Sorry, I'm trying to respond to the newest ones, also you guys keep editing them after you post them so I wait awhile to see if you updated them.[/QUOTE] That's mostly me, my apologies.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845][IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/emotes_p/privilege.gif[/IMG] I usually never argue with people on this subject because it is so touchy (I'm just not some troll bigot )but this is just simply argument: I don't mind gay pride here and there but this past 2 years it's all you see. It's repetitive, old and not helping anything in the year 2016. I totally agree it has helped legalizing gay marriage and reducing violence back in the past. Today most people are acceptive of LGBT people, you don't need to continue to keep saying you're proud (I got it the first time). It's just annoying and seems like they just want attention while building up anger in those who are anti-LGBT. I respect LGBT people as a person, I have never once personally discriminated anyone based on this subject. I am just simply tired of the attention they want like they are a special snowflake.[/QUOTE] but the lgbt community by and large doesn't want to be special. They want to be treated like normal people. That's pretty hard when people still hate them because they think being gay means you suck kids dicks or something fucked up like that. The misconceptions are still there. The only way that was fought in the past was via exposure. I don't see how anythings changed in that regard. Exposure worked to fix the problems that they faced by and large.

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;50569747]youtube spotlight videos always get a secondary button next to their logo, which doesn't obstruct or remove the functionality of the homepage button[/QUOTE] This but I always end up accidentally clicking what ever is in spotlight by accident and I don't doubt others do that too.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845]It's repetitive, old and not helping anything in the year 2016.[/QUOTE] According to you. [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845]Today most people are acceptive of LGBT people,[/QUOTE] According to you. [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845]It's just annoying and seems like they just want attention[/QUOTE] And I'm sure you're entirely unbiased. [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845]I respect LGBT people as a person,[/QUOTE] Could've fooled me. [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569845]I am just simply tired of the attention they want like they are a special snowflake.[/QUOTE] Good thing LGBT people aren't asking for special treatment.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569879]Can you see my point of view and see how annoying it is looking anywhere these days and it's just all attention on the LGBT community. It is like looking everywhere and saying Christianity is the best religion, it angers those will different beliefs.[/QUOTE] Don't you think that's a bit of a short-sighted way of looking at it though? You're basically saying "wow, it's nothing but LGBT article after LGBT article" without considering the context and why it's so prevalent. Anyway I'm signing off, I've been putting off an essay I have to do for a few hours now :v:

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569879]Can you see my point of view and see how annoying it is looking anywhere these days and it's just all attention on the LGBT community. It is like looking everywhere and saying Christianity is the best religion, it angers those will different beliefs.[/QUOTE] Why is it annoying to you? Because you're bothered by them? People just don't want to tolerate bigotry over such things anymore. I'm bisexual, and I don't want to be attacked over what I like, and I have been. I can understand being a part of a minority group because via sexuality and lack of religion, my whole life has been in groups that are looked down upon by society writ large. I think people like yourself are just insecure

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50569953]It's not that i'm bothered by them it's the plain fact of repetitiveness and attention. I would be the same way if people started going around "straight pride!!". I am not insecure, I never have been. I guess I come from a pretty good life where I should "check my privilege". I've never been part of a minority, bullied, attacked, etc.[/QUOTE] Then have some empathy. You asked me to look at it from your view. Look at it from mine. People who share my sexuality were literally killed for their existence. They were shamed, put in the shadows of society, called all sorts of names, blamed for all sorts of things, and faced violence at every turn. I was lucky enough to be born after the worst of those years, but I still suffered bullying and violence for just being myself. I look at the community and I see solidarity around each other. I see a desire to belong, to be considered normal, to be a part of society that's so normal, you just don't even care or notice. That'll never happen as long as bigotry exists and as long as people are bothered by my very existence. The "pride" that is displayed is a pride of having survived that, a degree of proudness of being yourself and being happy with that. There's far less pro lgbt stuff out there than there is anti LGBT stuff. The difference in the two sides is massive. One side sees us as an abomination to god and wants us to be held back. We see ourselves as people and want the rights of people. To really be annoyed that LGBT people are as loud as they are when they're fighting for their right to exist is, I don't know, stupid?

I personally identify myself as an attack helicopter [editline]22nd June 2016[/editline] You all jealous of my 30 mm M230E1 Chain Gun that uses a 2 hp electric motor to fire 30 mm linkless ammunition at a rate of 625 (±25) rounds per minute. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;50570042]I personally identify myself as an attack helicopter [editline]22nd June 2016[/editline] You all jealous of my 30 mm M230E1 Chain Gun that uses a 2 hp electric motor to fire 30 mm linkless ammunition at a rate of 625 (±25) rounds per minute.[/QUOTE] yeah so similar to just being gay or transgender like, i'm genuinely curious, other than trying to piss people off, what's the point of saying shit like this? how vapid and empty are you as a human being you have degrade anyone who doesn't share your exact sexuality and the like?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50570062]yeah so similar to just being gay or transgender like, i'm genuinely curious, other than trying to piss people off, what's the point of saying shit like this? how vapid and empty are you as a human being you have degrade anyone who doesn't share your exact sexuality and the like?[/QUOTE] How empty is your soul when you can no longer take a joke

[QUOTE=DJrorok;50570069]How empty is your soul when you can no longer take a joke[/QUOTE] I'll never consider something like that a joke because it isn't even an attempt at humour as far as I'm concerned If I just called you a an inhuman waste and laughed about it hard enough, would that make it a joke? No, you'd probably say "a joke needs humour" but the thing is, that's subjective, so getting your panties in a knot that I don't find an aggressive form of denigration funny is just sad.

[QUOTE=DJrorok;50570069]How empty is your soul when you can no longer take a joke[/QUOTE] Regurgitated year old transphobic memes is the height of humor.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570071]I agree, the LGBT community should not be killed or be victims of violent attacks but there are some things the LGBT community is requesting that are too far. I know this is a whole other rabbit hole but a great example is the transgender bathroom law. I know that transgender want to have equality and use the gender separated rooms but then it is putting those at risk because some creep can just identify as "transgender" because no proof is required except what you say and walk into locker rooms and creep on the people changing. What's your opinion on that?[/QUOTE] We've been over this. There's never been a single transgender person convicted of this. It's all scare mongering. The risk of your child being raped is the same from a straight man as it is anyone else. To really get all worried about people taking advantage of bathrooms is fucking stupid. There's no way to do so that isn't already illegal. Sexual assault is illegal. Assault is illegal. Why it's important that it occured in a bathroom is beyond me, it can literally happen any where. it's pure scare mongering fucking nonsense. Asking for those to be double illegal, or requiring trans people to make a bigger scene by using the wrong washroom, is again, fucking nonsense.

[QUOTE=elowin;50566994] Of course the mentally ill can be happy with themselves, what kind of nonsense is that.[/QUOTE] sorry, I wasn't thinking about the bigger spectrum of mental disorders. i was just angry that people were calling members of the lgbt community ill. [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Retardation;50567308]Autism is a recognized mental disorder. Sexually confused people who "identify" themselves are not viewed as such. It's promoted and encouraged. Lets encourage depression while we're at it. Lets encourage personality disorders because "thats who we are #ProudToBe". jfc. [/QUOTE] This was my main point. Depression by nature does not cause any happiness, and I'd argue the same goes for personality disorders. They cause a great deal of pain and anguish internally. The only reason homosexuality causes pain and anguish is from the outside, from other people being horrible. How are they comparable at all? How is being your true self and being happy a disorder?

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570130]No, no no. I'm not blaming a transgender person of sexualy assulting somone due to this law. I am talking about a sexual predator who uses the excuse of being transgender (who is actually not transgender) to grant access to a normally restricted room. I am talking more on the locker room side where a sexual predator uses the excuse then does not physically assault anyone but possibly taking pictures secretly or just the fact of general creeping.[/QUOTE] It's still never happened. It's still baseless paranoia.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570232]That's because it has not been passed yet. It will just make sexual assault or just general non violent creeping easy to do. [URL="http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Man-Beat-9-Year-Old-Girl-In-Jacksonville-Best-Buy-Bathroom-Police-220944391.html"]Here [/URL] is a recent example that could happen more frequently.[/QUOTE] 'could happen more frequently in my opinion' is really great evidence!

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570130]No, no no. I'm not blaming a transgender person of sexualy assulting somone due to this law. I am talking about a sexual predator who uses the excuse of being transgender (who is actually not transgender) to grant access to a normally restricted room. I am talking more on the locker room side where a sexual predator uses the excuse then does not physically assault anyone but possibly taking pictures secretly or just the fact of general creeping.[/QUOTE] but nothing stops that NOW without those laws. Nothing will stop that WITH those laws. It's going to happen. And not one person will become trans just to abuse other people because it's still illegal for anyone to abuse anyone.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570232]That's because it has not been passed yet. It will just make sexual assault or just general non violent creeping easy to do. [URL="http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Man-Beat-9-Year-Old-Girl-In-Jacksonville-Best-Buy-Bathroom-Police-220944391.html"]Here [/URL] is a recent example that could happen more frequently. [URL="http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/the-big-list-of-bathroom-attacks/#!"]Here[/URL] is another article[/QUOTE] So an irrelevant article about a man beating up a kid and an article that has this at the bottom: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5Eq0NXd.png[/IMG] Is your evidence? Weak.

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570273]We should make the lives of numerous innocent people significantly more difficult because there's a chance someone [I]might[/I] abuse the laws. I promise I'm not transphobic, though! honest![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570130]No, no no. I'm not blaming a transgender person of sexualy assulting somone due to this law. I am talking about a sexual predator who uses the excuse of being transgender (who is actually not transgender) to grant access to a normally restricted room. I am talking more on the locker room side where a sexual predator uses the excuse then does not physically assault anyone but possibly taking pictures secretly or just the fact of general creeping.[/QUOTE] So because of some potential scenario you've concocted where someone [I]might[/I] try and claim being transgender to gain access to a bathroom facility normally off limits without consequences you think it's a bad idea for trans people to legally be allowed to use their preferred facilities That is [I]dumb[/I] You wanna know what'll really happen? Trans people will continue to keep using their preferred facilities as they've always done without anyone noticing, and these hypothetical creepers dumb enough to actually think this is a loophole hanging around in bathrooms/locker rooms/steam rooms/whatever, get reported to the staff of an establishment and/or arrested [QUOTE=skatehawk11;50570232]That's because it has not been passed yet. It will just make sexual assault or just general non violent creeping easy to do. [URL="http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Man-Beat-9-Year-Old-Girl-In-Jacksonville-Best-Buy-Bathroom-Police-220944391.html"]Here [/URL] is a recent example that could happen more frequently. [URL="http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/the-big-list-of-bathroom-attacks/#!"]Here[/URL] is another article[/QUOTE] I'm kind of an idiot, maybe you wanna explain to me how exactly legally allowing transgendered individuals is supposed to make the scenario in the first article easier? Even leaving aside that the article has nothing to do with trans people, dude seemed pretty intent on doing serious harm and I'm not really sure he was about to stop and think "Wait I can't go in there, that's he ladies room"