[QUOTE=Shanethe13;15990631]I haven't read Fountainhead yet, but Atlas Shrugged is one of my favourite novels. Irrespective of whether you agree with objectivism or not, it is an interesting read; besides, there's no such thing as a right or wrong philosophy.[/QUOTE]
But there is a such a thing as a morally reprehensible philosophy.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;15991025]But there is a such a thing as a morally reprehensible philosophy.[/QUOTE]
I believe that not tossing babies out of a moving truck is EVIL and IMMORAL.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;15991025]But there is a such a thing as a morally reprehensible philosophy.[/QUOTE]
That's the number one thing that's talked in Ayn Randian philosophy, it's not capitalism, it's actually morality and what's moral.
She finds Capitalism to be the most moral system of government, and that's the primary idea behind Atlas Shrugged.
Goosebumbs is where it's at bitch
Does this song any chance have to do with that book? If I remember right, Neil Peart - who wrote the lyrics - is a really big Ayn Rand fand.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvt0f1HN8lU[/media]
[QUOTE=kirderf;15991465]Does this song any chance have to do with that book? If I remember right, Neil Peart - who wrote the lyrics - is a really big Ayn Rand fand.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvt0f1HN8lU[/media][/QUOTE]
No, that song is more about doing what you want to do instead of doing what others want.
You're looking for 2112 by Rush, which is essentially Anthem with a guitar instead of a light bulb.
This thread really confused me. I was looking to learn more about Ayn Rand, but I only see people bitching at eachother. Could someone give me a good explanation of how Ayn Rand is like?
[QUOTE=kirderf;15991563]This thread really confused me. I was looking to learn more about Ayn Rand, but I only see people bitching at eachother. Could someone give me a good explanation of how Ayn Rand is like?[/QUOTE]
Ayn Rand will only appeal to people who spends hours debating what art is and what is moral or not.
If you have no interest in existentialism, then you won't really see the connections and ideas that you have to connect to really understand what she's talking about.
This is the main problem with people who read Ayn Rand, they only read the first layer, come to the conclusion that Ayn Rand was telling people to eradicate the poor, then go to the internet and tell people how much cock Communists suck.
While in reality, there's a lot of things that Ayn Rand actually wanted to say that was completely ignored.
So it is a good read then?
[QUOTE=kirderf;15991625]So it is a good read then?[/QUOTE]
Let me just give it to you this way. When you finish Anthem for instance and come to a conclusion, completely forget that conclusion and read it again. If you come to the conclusion that capitalism is hurf durf, then you are completely missing the point of the novel as well.
Treat it not as if it were a pamphlet explaining political beliefs, treat it as a piece of literature.
Ok, I will keep that in my head when reading. Thanks :)
Oh, and if you ever show up on TV as "the leading Ayn Rand scholar" of the "Commies Suck Institute", don't.
Wait, it's 68 pages only? That is very very short.
[quote=kirderf;15991715]wait, it's 68 pages only? That is very very short.[/quote]
147...
That's really weird. I looked at like 3 versions of the book and they all were 64-68 pages.
[QUOTE=kirderf;15991756]That's really weird. I looked at like 3 versions of the book and they all were 64-68 pages.[/QUOTE]
well you better get a microscope
I have the Centennial Edition of Anthem, and it's 256 pages. That includes her rough work though, the actual story is about 115. Although, the margins are insanely large, so I can see 70 pages being possible.
[QUOTE=thisispain;15991493]No, that song is more about doing what you want to do instead of doing what others want.
You're looking for 2112 by Rush, which is essentially Anthem with a guitar instead of a light bulb.[/QUOTE]
I thought 2112 was about religious powers censoring new knowledge, Neil did once say he liked people to interpret them however they like, both songs are cool though, though I like By-Tor and the Snow Dog the most.
I'm a big fan of Ayn Rand's writing and philosophy, but that really shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody who's ever seen me post about such subjects. I don't mirror her views, but her writings helped me to further develop my own ideologies. My short [url="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=741892"]"Tribute to Greed"[/url] speech shows the code that I live my life by, and it's not hard to tell that Rand and I share similar views. Would I say that her writings changed the way I think? No, not at all. They did help me to further develop my life code, and to put form to feelings that I didn't quite understand before.
I'd have to recommend the Fountainhead over any of her other books. It's a relatively short story, but it's very engaging. The writing is sharp and fast, the speeches moving, and bla bla bla. Atlas Shrugged also has some amazing speeches throughout, but is definitely a bit winded. It was about five hundred pages longer than it needed to be to get her points and messages across, and it doesn't even do a great job of that. Her points tend to get a bit muddled.
If you're only going to read one Rand book, I'd recommend the Fountainhead.
I don't see how that's greed at all.
What you said in your thread was not materialism in anyway. Greed relates to having more than what you need, not working for your own need as your stated in your thread.
I really need to go to the library, thanks for reminding me.
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