• Evidence by fossils contradict the theory of evolution
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[QUOTE=Random94;25875665]Actually it does because according to evolution, winged insects could have had gills to have the ability to fly, but according to fossilized amber of flies, moths and cockroaches, this isint true[/QUOTE] How would a gill be beneficial? Evolution works by small mutations in a fetus'/other undeveloped form DNA. If a winged insect had a mutation that caused gills, it would of either died instantly or been unable to pass on it's genes, preventing it from adding to the gene pool. Or if you mean that some form of alternative flying method could of evolved, yes it could of. It didn't, though. Most flying insects are descended from a (relatively speaking) small group of ancestors. Major, abrupt changes are rare, so so far we haven't seen any radically different methods. Fun fact: human fetuses (and many other vertabrae) have gill slits (along the neck) for a few months in the womb. These don't function as gills, but this would suggest that we have some residual DNA from a distant (extremely so) that once served us in our extremely distant past. You have a mountain of evidence against you, but you refuse to see the fact. Bacteria evolve; how else would new strains and antibiotic resistance emerge? This alone should be enough. Want more? DNA can be traced back through several species (dating the species by the measured age of bones and other remains). We can see a pattern emerge where more and more benifical mutations arise, using the oldest genome as the baseline. These small mutations pile up until we have the latest genome.
I think no.
Oh I see, we've proved you wrong, time for you to stop posting. Really gives me a whole lot of confidence in your hypothesis if you run away every time someone disputes it.
Find me fossil of jesus christ and i will become christian.
[QUOTE=Random94;25875665]Actually it does because according to evolution, winged insects could have had gills to have the ability to fly, but according to fossilized amber of flies, moths and cockroaches, this isint true[/QUOTE] What the fuck man [QUOTE=Random94;25876030]What i meant was early insects according to evolution.[/QUOTE] Still not very clear buddy. I don't see how the fuck insects have ever had gills. NOR LUNGS FOR THAT MATTER. In fact, yeah, insects don't have lungs, which would kinda render gills POINTLESS, as they breathe through tubes going to pores on their skin/surface. My 5th grade biology is a bit hazy, so that may not be completely accurate, but I know they didn't ever have lungs or gills.
[QUOTE=TheForeigner;25876729]Find me fossil of jesus christ and i will become christian.[/QUOTE] I don't think Jesus has been dead long enough to fossilize completely.
[QUOTE=Endgame23;25874469]Oh look this thread again[/QUOTE] avatar fits.
Alright Random94, I watched your video. And I will now ask you to watch one of mine. It is a bit longer but you require only to watch half of it. Then I want you to return to this thread and continue the discussion. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNrt90MJL08[/media]
[QUOTE=Mingebox;25875785]Cuál es éste, no hago incluso…[/QUOTE] The correct translation is "¿Qué es esto? Ni siquiera..." :eng101:
Oh look. It's the same old creationist arguments. [QUOTE=Kazumi;25876842]Alright Random94, I watched your video. And I will now ask you to watch one of mine. It is a bit longer but you require only to watch half of it. Then I want you to return to this thread and continue the discussion. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNrt90MJL08[/media][/QUOTE] Long live biologists who uses Futurama in the description of creationists.
That was the worst creationist video I've ever seen, hands down. Good job OP, you set a new record for me.
[QUOTE=Herr Sven;25876937]Oh look. It's the same old creationist arguments. Long live biologists who uses Futurama in the description of creationists.[/QUOTE] Same old Stupidity.(Not pointed at you)
There are billions of points for evolution, and like 1 against it.
Since I don't feel like torturing myself with this video, which sort of "evidence" did they give us in this video? A) "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Therefore, God did it!" B) "I wasn't the product of random chance! Therefore, God did it!" C) "Look! Look! There is a human footprint by the dinosaurs! Therefore, God did it!" D) "A virus of archeobacteria that hasn't evolved in billions of years! Therefore, God did it!" E) "I'm arguing from ignorance! Therefore, God did it!"
OP is a Christian trying to convert us.
[QUOTE=MrBob1337;25876693]Oh I see, we've proved you wrong, time for you to stop posting. Really gives me a whole lot of confidence in your hypothesis if you run away every time someone disputes it.[/QUOTE] I was away from my computer, didint give up yet. [editline]6th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=EcksDee;25876813]What the fuck man Still not very clear buddy. I don't see how the fuck insects have ever had gills. NOR LUNGS FOR THAT MATTER. In fact, yeah, insects don't have lungs, which would kinda render gills POINTLESS, as they breathe through tubes going to pores on their skin/surface. My 5th grade biology is a bit hazy, so that may not be completely accurate, but I know they didn't ever have lungs or gills.[/QUOTE] Dont argue with me, argue with who put the wikipedia article
I do believe the OP is a troll. I am a Christian. I come from a strongly religious family. Guess what? Not even my grandparents doubted the righteousness of the Theory of Evolution. How come I've never met a single person here that was a creationist.... I guess creationism must be some special American thing. On these parts, no one has problems matching their beliefs and scientific evidence.
[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;25878189]Since I don't feel like torturing myself with this video, which sort of "evidence" did they give us in this video? A) "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Therefore, God did it!" B) "I wasn't the product of random chance! Therefore, God did it!" C) "Look! Look! There is a human footprint by the dinosaurs! Therefore, God did it!" D) "A virus of archeobacteria that hasn't evolved in billions of years! Therefore, God did it!" E) "I'm arguing from ignorance! Therefore, God did it!"[/QUOTE] They gave us evidance such as a sea creature that had no previous ancestors and did not evolve, it came after an asteroid impact, and this shows how evolution is inconsistent and therefore flawed. But scince your discussing this from a reilgous point of view, we can use science to explain [b]HOW[/b] god created life, you can use science to prove of the existence god just as you can use it to not prove it. [editline]6th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Géza!;25879159]I do believe the OP is a troll. I admit, I am a Christian. I come from a strongly religious family. Guess what? Not even my grandparents doubted the righteousness of the Theory of Evolution. How come I have never met a single person here that is a creationist. Creationism must be some special American thing. On these parts, no one has problems matching their beliefs and scientific evidence.[/QUOTE] I promise you im not trolling
Do what you want, ‘cause a creationist is dumb, YOU ARE A creationist! Yar har, fiddle di dee, Being a creationist is alright to be, Do what you want ‘cause a creationist is dumb, You are a creationist!
[QUOTE=Random94;25879161]They gave us evidance such as a sea creature that had no previous ancestors and did not evolve, it came after an asteroid impact, and this shows how evolution is inconsistent and therefore flawed. But scince your discussing this from a reilgous point of view, we can use science to explain [b]HOW[/b] god created life, you can use science to prove of the existence god just as you can use it to not prove it.[/QUOTE]What was this sea creature called? Also you can't prove God with science.
[QUOTE=Random94;25879161]They gave us evidance such as a sea creature that had no previous ancestors and did not evolve, it came after an asteroid impact, and this shows how evolution is inconsistent and therefore flawed. But scince your discussing this from a reilgous point of view, we can use science to explain [b]HOW[/b] god created life, you can use science to prove of the existence god just as you can use it to not prove it. [editline]6th November 2010[/editline] I promise you im not trolling[/QUOTE] You blatantly ignore every argument we bring up, yet serve with no real evidence to support your statements. Usually trolls do that.
the sad part is this is the same video my bio teacher showed me because he doesnt believe in evolution and tries to show both sides
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;25879221]What was this sea creature called? Also you can't prove God with science.[/QUOTE] The documentry mentions it believe it or not, i forgot the name. Oh really, how come back then Muslim scientists were faithful and some of the most intellectual people in the world at the same time.
[quote]Dont argue with me, argue with who put the wikipedia article[/QUOTE]No, cause you're the one who's believing everything you're reading on wikipedia (probably [url]http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution[/url]) then making stupid posts using that information. Do you actually KNOW anything about evolution? Anything about all the evidence there is?
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;25879221]What was this sea creature called? Also you can't prove God with science.[/QUOTE] The idea of a god was created because our ancestors were dumb. They needed something to blame when the harvest didn't work, or they got sick. We have not been able to shed the idea of gods, because it is a tradition for most people.
hey random why not give proof in the op so that way i dont have to pass you off as a troll
[QUOTE=Géza!;25879248]You blatantly ignore every argument we bring up, yet serve with no real evidence to support your statements. Usually trolls do that.[/QUOTE] Im responding to them if you arent relising.
[QUOTE=Random94;25879261]The documentry mentions it believe it or not, i forgot the name. Oh really, how come back then Muslim scientists were faithful and some of the most intellectual people in the world at the same time.[/QUOTE]Well if it was some crucial evidence that somehow disproves evolution, I think you'd remember it. Also what? Being smart and religious proves God? What about being dumb and religious, do you disprove God?
[QUOTE=Random94;25879261]The documentry mentions it believe it or not, i forgot the name. Oh really, how come back then Muslim scientists were faithful and some of the most intellectual people in the world at the same time.[/QUOTE] anything can be proven with science, something without evidence is something you shouldnt believe in and there is no proof in god. now i saved everyone an hour of arguing with a troll
[QUOTE=Random94;25879297]Im responding to them if you arent relising.[/QUOTE] Responding=/=Supporting us with evidence. Show me a full skeleton of a modern-day tiger from 65 million years ago, and I shall be ready to believe you. ^I also respectuflly disagree with atheists. I believe in the existence of a deity. I'm just sensible. Also "How come scientists were all faithful back then". Back when? In the medieval times, atheism was grounds for execution, anywhere you went.
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