it can be pretty awesome to use, for instance sticking bacon to pieces of meat briefly shown above, so good.
if i remember correctly, meat glue(transglutaminase at least) doesnt have any adverse effects on health.
the only downside is that you might be being tricked into paying for more than youd actually want to for what would just be bits of higher-end meat slapped together.
[editline]27th January 2016[/editline]
also dont look at the comments, i immediately recoiled from the drop in intelligence
Also for meat that has been glued you should cook it thoroughly like you would ground meat, but you might not know you need to.
Alright, as sickening as it sounds, is there any way this can be used medically? For instance, when someone hamburgers their hand (with fireworks, accidental table saw, ect.), could they get all the giblets and grafted skin and just glue your hand back together? I know that's a little far-fetched, but I can't help but wonder.
[QUOTE=aznz888;49616045]if i remember correctly, meat glue(transglutaminase at least) doesnt have any adverse effects on health.
the only downside is that you might be being tricked into paying for more than youd actually want to for what would just be bits of higher-end meat slapped together.
[editline]27th January 2016[/editline]
also dont look at the comments, i immediately recoiled from the drop in intelligence[/QUOTE]
In the video it reveals why its kind of a sketchy thing. It's the same reason why you should cook ground beef really well; the meat is essentially miscellaneously mashed together from the animal(s), leaving the bits with bacteria mixed around in the whole thing, not just in the center. Whereas with for example, steaks, there's less bacteria towards the center, which is why its safer to cook steaks rare. With meat glue it practically does the same thing as ground beef; random cuts of meat mashed together with varying amounts of bacteria. So cooking a meat glued steak rare could be dangerous.
[QUOTE=aznz888;49616045]if i remember correctly, meat glue(transglutaminase at least) doesnt have any adverse effects on health.
the only downside is that you might be being tricked into paying for more than youd actually want to for what would just be bits of higher-end meat slapped together.
[editline]27th January 2016[/editline]
also dont look at the comments, i immediately recoiled from the drop in intelligence[/QUOTE]
With a single cut of meat, you only need to brown the outside layer and can safely keep the inside a rare pink. for the same reason mince/ground meat must be cooked thoroughly, these steaks made from diced meat also must be cooked thoroughly and if the customer believe it's a steak, there's a chance they will cook the steak rare.
This article explains it a little better than I have here: [url]http://www.homefamily.net/why-is-it-safe-to-eat-roast-beef-medium-rare-but-not-hamburger/[/url]
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Yeah, what they said above me, damned ninjas
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[QUOTE=aznz888;49616397]that actually makes quite a bit of sense, i didn't think about it that way
i suppose the only way for it to be completely safe is if, somehow from production to end, the scraps of meat leftover were kept totally clean and prepared at the same rate of freshness as the original steak. otherwise it would greatly increase the risk of disease if prepared rare(aka the only way to cook a steak)[/QUOTE]
even if the knives and surfaces were clean, there's still likely to be some level of bacteria being picked up from the air
Btw medical glue already exists and is used in certain types of surgery. Generally it is used as an alternative to stitches when closing a wound.
Stuff sure is a lot more menacing when you wear masks and play scary music over it huh.
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;49616229]With a single cut of meat, you only need to brown the outside layer and can safely keep the inside a rare pink. for the same reason mince/ground meat must be cooked thoroughly, these steaks made from diced meat also must be cooked thoroughly and if the customer believe it's a steak, there's a chance they will cook the steak rare.
This article explains it a little better than I have here: [url]http://www.homefamily.net/why-is-it-safe-to-eat-roast-beef-medium-rare-but-not-hamburger/[/url]
[editline]CUNT![/editline]
Yeah, what they said above me, damned ninjas[/QUOTE]
that actually makes quite a bit of sense, i didn't think about it that way
i suppose the only way for it to be completely safe is if, somehow from production to end, the scraps of meat leftover were kept totally clean and prepared at the same rate of freshness as the original steak. otherwise it would greatly increase the risk of disease if prepared rare(aka the only way to cook a steak)
holy fuck this style of editing drives me up the fucking wall
this type of "news program" has been using this same style for a long time, but for some reason the UK news programs do it the least subtly and it's so blatantly manipulative i don't know how anyone takes it seriously. programs like this one take something and try EVERYTHING they can to kill two birds with one stone: create a [I]SCARE[/I] and make money through ADVERTISING.
"here is a butcher from [B]QUEENSLAND NATURAL BEEF[/B] (close up of logo) and as you can see, he is SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY and YOU MAY BE EATING POISON and HAVE BEEN EATING IT FOR YEARS!"
gotta love shots like 3:30 too. "yeah, just stand there and look at this package, we'll put spooky lighting on it, it'll look great."
they say things like "potentially dangerous" and "it COULD xxx" and don't back up any of their findings except with one guy who says "yeah it's pretty dangerous" with no fucking explanations or sciences. fuck this, god damn
is meat glue an issue that people should be told about? sure, i guess it can make a good news story. but this program actually managed to make me care [I]less[/I] about it because i feel like a fucking idiot just for watching it. FUCK i hate poorly done news programs
it's fucking cancerous and more dangerous to society than any fucking "meat glue" will be
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;49616326]Btw medical glue already exists and is used in certain types of surgery. Generally it is used as an alternative to stitches when closing a wound.[/QUOTE]
Yep. I've had it used during my surgery when I got this pilonidal cyst removed/drained.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49616576]So what they're saying is there's nothing wrong with the meat glue itself--the real problem is the act of gluing meat in general.
The real harm here is that they are producing solid pieces of meat that look like they need to be cooked to 140 degrees but that actually need to be cooked to 160 degrees, right?[/QUOTE]
I don't see how gluing meet is bad, it doesn't waste left over meat by the looks.
I only see Food Poisoning as the real danger here.
Well from the looks of it they aren't selling the meat at supermarkets, what's wrong with having meatglued steaks as long as your restaurant only sells them well-done.
So simple fix? Make all all products using meat glue to be legally required to show it's meat glue. Also this kinda reporting has been going on in Australia for years, it's really annoying and makes me more pissed at the news stations than anything else.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;49616820]Well from the looks of it they aren't selling the meat at supermarkets, what's wrong with having meatglued steaks as long as your restaurant only sells them well-done.[/QUOTE]
I can't say I've ever heard of a restaurant that only cooks steaks well done. Usually it's up to the customer.
I thought everyone knew about meat glue
[QUOTE=Leintharien;49616862]I can't say I've ever heard of a restaurant that only cooks steaks well done. Usually it's up to the customer.[/QUOTE]
I thought Americans hated properly cooked meat. Wouldn't having well done steaks only be like suicide for a restaurant over there?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;49617661]I thought Americans hated properly cooked meat. Wouldn't having well done steaks only be like suicide for a restaurant over there?[/QUOTE]
Are you calling well done steaks "properly cooked meat"?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;49617661]I thought Americans hated properly cooked meat. Wouldn't having well done steaks only be like suicide for a restaurant over there?[/QUOTE]
Have you ever had a well done steak? Substitute a seasoned piece of tire and they're identical, sure.
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;49616825]tv remotes, computer mice, even the toys you buy your children, they are all not what they seem.
Guys, you know those plastic devices you buy? Manufacturers [i]dont want you to know[/i] that they cut corners by not making them a solid cast and instead making them hollow.
"its disgusting" says one concerned citizen after hearing the news,
"I cant believe they sold me a product that fits in the palm of my hand, but its a lie. it really only takes up a small space, its mostly air!"
Researchers say they have been doing this for years. One insider states that "evil corporations will do anything to save a penny"
we are raising awareness about companies sucking your hard earned dollars right out of your pocket.
I am chad weasels, and this is NBC news.[/QUOTE]
this is so dumb though. Food can have an actual physical effect on the consumer
What is your point?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;49617661]I thought Americans hated properly cooked meat. Wouldn't having well done steaks only be like suicide for a restaurant over there?[/QUOTE]
I don't actually understand this comment. You're saying that Americans don't like properly cooked meat (rare), but you're talking to a Canadian and the video is Australian. So... What are you talking about?
[editline]27th January 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;49616825]tv remotes, computer mice, even the toys you buy your children, they are all not what they seem.
Guys, you know those plastic devices you buy? Manufacturers [i]dont want you to know[/i] that they cut corners by not making them a solid cast and instead making them hollow.
"its disgusting" says one concerned citizen after hearing the news,
"I cant believe they sold me a product that fits in the palm of my hand, but its a lie. it really only takes up a small space, its mostly air!"
Researchers say they have been doing this for years. One insider states that "evil corporations will do anything to save a penny"
we are raising awareness about companies sucking your hard earned dollars right out of your pocket.
I am chad weasels, and this is NBC news.[/QUOTE]
I have to preface this with saying I have no problems with the meat glue itself. If someone can make a piece of meat that tastes identical to a higher grade cut that, when properly prepared, is cheaper, just as healthy, and just as tasty, then I'm all for that.
But if someone is gonna take that same substance and sell it for a mark-up and peddle it as the real deal, I'm going to have a problem there full-stop. Not only that, but they're gonna sell it to me straight-faced and say "Oh yeah, it's totally safe to eat this rare, it's the same exact thing, don't worry about it" when in reality it isn't safe to eat rare, you have a serious ethical and potential legal issue on your hands.
I can understand the concern with false advertising leading to not preparing the meat correctly (not to mention you're being led on to buy something you think is something else), but I cannot see any problem with meat glue at all. It's safe, tastes the same, and is virtually identical otherwise to other meats.
I like it when they say shit like "your beef is held together with pigs blood", oh fuck off, no it isn't. It's an enzyme used to bind pieces of meat together. Saying that's a problem is like complaining about insulin being made from pig pancreases.
I honestly don't see anything wrong with the actual usage of binding meat together, its the same as mince or any other ground meat, its the fact they are advertising and selling it as "full cuts" when its actually multiple pieces.
For stakes, I can see why gluing meat together will be a problem because you just can't do anything less than medium-well to ensure its fully cooked and killed off any of the bacteria between the glue joints.
I guess what the EU did is fair but gluing meat together to make larger cuts isn't a bad concept, its just how its sold.
Plus its not like they are using an artificial chemical to bind the cuts together, its a natural enzyme that you can find in even normal cuts of meat.
Really to solve this, there needs to be a law introduced to enforce the listing of "processed glued meat" much the same way any other processed meat has to be labelled, but more clearly than current processed meat labels, like a big tag or something.
Is it wrong that this video makes me extremely hungry?
No I don't think so.
I'm gonna go get a snack.
Interesting video.
tbh I'd be pretty pissed if I paid for an $80 steak and it was actually put together by cut scraps and leftovers, it'd be like buying a car that looks like a ferrari on the outside but actually has the engine of a ford escape inside of it. Fuck that.
lmao wow this is so overblown
seems like a way to cut down on a lot of food waste. scraps are reused and made into food that is so convincing that the difference cant be discerned.
instead of freaking out over something like meat glue, it should be allowed but at least regulated. one animals meat should be matched with the appropriate meat glue of the same type of animal, glued meat should be at least labeled and priced accurately for what they are, and we should all move on with our lives. we've all apparently been eating the fucking stuff for a while now, and waste in the slaughterhouse is being trimmed down, so the only thing that should be of concern is the inaccurate pricing.
[QUOTE=bob4life;49640276]lmao wow this is so overblown
seems like a way to cut down on a lot of food waste. scraps are reused and made into food that is so convincing that the difference cant be discerned.
instead of freaking out over something like meat glue, it should be allowed but at least regulated. one animals meat should be matched with the appropriate meat glue of the same type of animal, glued meat should be at least labeled and priced accurately for what they are, and we should all move on with our lives. we've all apparently been eating the fucking stuff for a while now, and waste in the slaughterhouse is being trimmed down, so the only thing that should be of concern is the inaccurate pricing.[/QUOTE]
The only things that are worrysome about it are 1) the mislabeling and 2) it's potentially dangerous to undercook meat due to bacteria which is related to the mislabeling.
it's not a big deal and it's probably for the best we do recycle meat scraps.
Why not just make fucking sausages out of the leftovers? Like we've been doing for centuries?
I fucking love meat glue, shit's delicious and frankly the more animals I'm eating at any one time the better.
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