Looper - A scifi action movie staring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis. As the same person. Fro
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Amazing movie, everybody owes it to themselves to go see it.
[QUOTE=icemaz;37836343]Really good, it was well acted and had some of the most memorable scenes in any i've seen in a while [sp]like where Future Seth is running away and they're cutting limbs off the younger one, that was grim as fuck[/sp]. It ending was also pretty satisfying I felt which is nice.[/QUOTE]
[sp]What was the point of cutting the limbs off though? Could they not have just shot Young Seth thus making Future Seth vanish?[/sp]
Also,
[sp]If the whole film was about sending people to the past to get killed, why the fuck did they randomly just shoot Willis's wife in broad daylight? Even if it was a mistake, they could have just killed Willis then and there.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Chrille;35604888]This really bothers me:
[URL]http://io9.com/5738264/first-images-of-rian-johnsons-dystopian-future[/URL]
I'll probably still go watch it because it looks like it will be really good nonetheless, but man am I'm going to be very aware of the subtle Chinese propaganda all throughout the movie.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know this when I watched but it's kind of funny.
[sp]The only "Chinese propoganda" was the fact that China was a major bustling city in the future, and I thought that was just a little joke about China's rising global influence and how everyone sees it today. Didn't come off as propoganda to me at all.[/sp]
Going to see this tonight. Can't wait.
I kept thinking about [url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1838070/]Jonathan Sadowski[/url] face all the time when I watched the trailers then the name Joseph Gordon-Levitt appeared and I was like "what?! No way."
[QUOTE=hobomania;37838861][sp]What was the point of cutting the limbs off though? Could they not have just shot Young Seth thus making Future Seth vanish?[/sp]
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[sp]I guess they want the money? My friend said it was explained they couldn't do that as it's time travel and shit. I guess they'd need to keep Seth alive to be able to send him back in the future.[/sp]
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
Thought the film was good. It was a blockbuster in every sense of the word but that doesn't mean it was stupid. It proudly wears the "I'm gonna be so fucking general audience friendly but still be clever and a bit unique" badge. Very good film.
[sp]Surely if young Joe came to love and appreciate the kid Old Joe would've developed the same feelings? Either way nothing's changed. Old Joe came from a world where the kid grew up with his mum on the farm as he never let himself escape. Young Joe may have let Old Joe escape but he still stopped him before he killed the kid. The kid grows up exactly the same as he had before and will continue to be a shit. He'll just have no Loopers to expire.
But I guess it comes back to the "If you had a time machine do you kill baby Hitler?". You don't. Because as awful as he was he's a key part of history and without him we wouldn't of had the war or the post war cultural revolution. Plus if the amount of people that died were still around today it'd be fucked. The film sort of gives that ending message "shit things happen deal with it". Which makes the film really stand out[/sp]
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
The scene Levitt was in a vest and [sp]chatting with his hooker friend about Seth[/sp] was a scene he looked like a sort of skinnier young Bruce Willis. Freaked the shit out me.
Just got back and I enjoyed the film. I think I'm going to give it a 8.5 because [sp]sadly I think I ruined it for myself by over-thinking things and guessed the ending after I seen how hurting the younger version of a person effected the older version. So the predictability removes a bit off my score.[/sp]
However the film was really solid and enjoyable. The story fitted together nicely and the acting was brilliant from JGL and Willis.
That scene with the [sp]limbs being cut[/sp] freaked me out. I'm not usually one to get profoundly disturbed by anything in a movie, but that bothered me a lot. Because it just was so psychological and seeing [sp]old Seth[/sp] freaking out got to me.
Just got back from seeing it. It was fantastic. Yes, it was highly predictable, but I still enjoyed it and I thought they had as unique a spin on the time travel genre as can possibly be expected anymore. [sp]As soon as I saw the kid shakin' the place up and she ran out of the room, I pretty much knew what was going to happen. A lot of people around us were quite audibly confused.[/sp]
[sp]I really like the predictions they make about North America having a crisis due to fossil fuels running out (sounded like the Depression with the vagrants and all) and becoming a complete shithole, and how China obviously becomes the superpower everyone says it's going to.[/sp]
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;37851953]That scene with the [sp]limbs being cut[/sp] freaked me out. I'm not usually one to get profoundly disturbed by anything in a movie, but that bothered me a lot. Because it just was so psychological and seeing [sp]old Seth[/sp] freaking out got to me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, me too. I thought I'd seen everything but every once in a while something comes along that surprises and disturbs me.
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=hobomania;37838861][sp]What was the point of cutting the limbs off though? Could they not have just shot Young Seth thus making Future Seth vanish?[/sp]
Also,
[sp]If the whole film was about sending people to the past to get killed, why the fuck did they randomly just shoot Willis's wife in broad daylight? Even if it was a mistake, they could have just killed Willis then and there.[/sp][/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking the whole time. [sp]How did they dispose of the body? It's impossible in the future.[/sp]
saw it again, just as good the second time
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;37851953]That scene with the [sp]limbs being cut[/sp] freaked me out. I'm not usually one to get profoundly disturbed by anything in a movie, but that bothered me a lot. Because it just was so psychological and seeing [sp]old Seth[/sp] freaking out got to me.[/QUOTE]
People in my cinema were laughing at that which I think made it even more disturbing
[QUOTE=GodKing;37852942]Just got back from seeing it. It was fantastic. Yes, it was highly predictable, but I still enjoyed it and I thought they had as unique a spin on the time travel genre as can possibly be expected anymore. [sp]As soon as I saw the kid shakin' the place up and she ran out of the room, I pretty much knew what was going to happen. A lot of people around us were quite audibly confused.[/sp]
[sp]I really like the predictions they make about North America having a crisis due to fossil fuels running out (sounded like the Depression with the vagrants and all) and becoming a complete shithole, and how China obviously becomes the superpower everyone says it's going to.[/sp]
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
Yeah, me too. I thought I'd seen everything but every once in a while something comes along that surprises and disturbs me.
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
That's what I was thinking the whole time. [sp]How did they dispose of the body? It's impossible in the future.[/sp][/QUOTE]
When Joe asked "Are you gonna kill him?" Abe said [sp]no, not if he could help it. That it was too difficult or messy or something. The same reason they don't want Joe killed on the spot, but brought in. I think killing the past self fucks too much with the future. So they kept him alive during the surgery, and probably kept him alive after, totally crippled, but alive, so as to not intentionally cause a paradox and change the future. I think that's the idea. They only want to kill the future one, to erase all future connections with the organisation and stop them from getting caught in the future I guess.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dan2593;37849374][sp]Surely if young Joe came to love and appreciate the kid Old Joe would've developed the same feelings? [/sp] [/QUOTE]
[sp]I think that's what they were talking about with that diner scene and when he was hiding in the sewer. He's getting new memories and such yeah, but the old timeline ones are still there, just kinda fuzzy or fading away. But in the sewer scene we see him trying to hold on to his old memories and reinforce them over the new ones, so yeah, he was kinda resisting the changes and that why he still wanted to kill the kid. At least I think that's what was going on.[/sp]
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
i need to see this again
[sp]it's funny how I gravitated at Old Joe's cause at first but then he started killing kids. I'm pleasantly surprised at the depth of the movie. I was just expecting just Willis and JGL trying to kill each other, based off the trailers.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rammaster;37853317][sp]it's funny how I gravitated at Old Joe's cause at first but then he started killing kids. I'm pleasantly surprised at the depth of the movie. I was just expecting just Willis and JGL trying to kill each other, based off the trailers.[/sp][/QUOTE]
You're supposed to I think that. [sp]You sympathize for young Joe, then when Old Joe's on the scene you sympathize for him because he tells his story. Kind of giving you a different perspective on young Joe you hadn't seen before. But then you slowly realise that old Joe is really no better, and eventually even worse, because of what he's willing to do out of selfishness. Young Joe, through watching the selfish and heinous actions of his older self, sees the error in his ways, sees his condescending older self is no better than he is/was, and is in fact even worse. That's what I think the whole point was.[/sp]
Am I missing something or what was the point of loopers and this "it's too hard to get rid of people" business when everyone was shooting the shit out of each other. Before you say that was "the past", what's the deal with future Joe's wife getting shot in the gut and then the head hunters go to all the effort to send Joe back in time?
[QUOTE=My Infection;37854531]Am I missing something or what was the point of loopers and this "it's too hard to get rid of people" business when everyone was shooting the shit out of each other. Before you say that was "the past", what's the deal with future Joe's wife getting shot in the gut and then the head hunters go to all the effort to send Joe back in time?[/QUOTE]
[sp]Coz it's a bit different killing a woman outside her house and leaving her body there than it is doing the same to a man who is tied to what is essentially a time travelling mafia.
Her death could've been a break in or maybe Joe did it and went on the run.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37853262]When Joe asked "Are you gonna kill him?" Abe said [sp]no, not if he could help it. That it was too difficult or messy or something. The same reason they don't want Joe killed on the spot, but brought in. I think killing the past self fucks too much with the future. So they kept him alive during the surgery, and probably kept him alive after, totally crippled, but alive, so as to not intentionally cause a paradox and change the future. I think that's the idea. They only want to kill the future one, to erase all future connections with the organisation and stop them from getting caught in the future I guess.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]No, I meant future Joe's wife. I know what they did with Seth, although it's a little hard to believe they kept him on life support for 30 years without a hiccup.[/sp]
I have an odd subconscious need to navigate to this thread and click the spoilers for some reason.
Then I realize where I am and quickly close the tab.
Anyone else think that young Joe sometimes looked a lot like Max Payne?
i had a thought [sp]why didn't they kill the person in the future, and zap back the body to just be disposed off? seems a lot more error free?[/sp]
Because a movie where Joseph Gordon-Levitt has simply misplaced Bruce Willis' corpse would probably be too funny to take seriously.
maybe they want to be completely free of any evidence (blood, bullet casings)
[editline]1st October 2012[/editline]
or maybe they originally DID murder them and send back the body, but eventually got tired of cleaning up the mess
Just watched the movie and I loved it. I found the ending to be a little disappointing though, there was so much potential for insane mind blowing plot twists, and they just [sp]killed the protagonist off[/sp]
[sp]Young Joe could have just killed the old Joe, so the kid won't become the mob boss and he would still have thirty or so years to fix everything up[/sp]
[QUOTE=superstepa;37863372]Just watched the movie and I loved it. I found the ending to be a little disappointing though, there was so much potential for insane mind blowing plot twists, and they just [sp]killed the protagonist off[/sp]
[sp]Young Joe could have just killed the old Joe, so the kid won't become the mob boss and he would still have thirty or so years to fix everything up[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I don't think he'd have time. They emphasized the low range of the Blunderbuss, and Young Joe was pretty far away, while Old Joe could've shot the chick any time he wanted[/sp]
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;37863403][sp]I don't think he'd have time. They emphasized the low range of the Blunderbuss, and Young Joe was pretty far away, while Old Joe could've shot the chick any time he wanted[/sp][/QUOTE]
I guess, I just really wanted [sp]it all to loop in some way. Instead we got the entire timeline messed up [/sp]
[sp]So Joe killed his older self, before going back around to get sent back to get killed by the Loopers because the Rain Maker was closing all the loops, but then when he gets back he escapes and goes off to try and kill the Rain Maker so his wife isn't killed, but if he killed the Rain Maker's mother then he would've essentially given the Rain Maker a hatred of the Loopers that was so strong that he became the guy closing all the loops..?
So why did the Rain Maker exist in the timeline where Looper Joe killed Future Joe?
Also, why didn't Looper Joe just help Future Joe kill the kid, or something? Or just shoot himself on the field, or something? Or he could've just blown his trigger finger off on the hand that Future Joe was holding the gun with, and then used that time to run over and tackle Future Joe, explain the situation, and if he wasn't able to convince him, just shoot him there and then?[/sp]
Other than that, it was a pretty cool film.
[sp]Young Joe should have just cut off his hands so now, Old Joe couldn't shoot[/sp]
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;37863484][sp]So Joe killed his older self, before going back around to get sent back to get killed by the Loopers because the Rain Maker was closing all the loops, but then when he gets back he escapes and goes off to try and kill the Rain Maker so his wife isn't killed, but if he killed the Rain Maker's mother then he would've essentially given the Rain Maker a hatred of the Loopers that was so strong that he became the guy closing all the loops..?
So why did the Rain Maker exist in the timeline where Looper Joe killed Future Joe?
Also, why didn't Looper Joe just help Future Joe kill the kid, or something? Or just shoot himself on the field, or something? Or he could've just blown his trigger finger off on the hand that Future Joe was holding the gun with, and then used that time to run over and tackle Future Joe, explain the situation, and if he wasn't able to convince him, just shoot him there and then?[/sp]
Other than that, it was a pretty cool film.[/QUOTE]
[sp] I don't think the blunderbuss would make shooting just one finger possible because of it's spread. But yeah I completely agree with you, the ending was a little dissapointing[/sp]
[QUOTE=superstepa;37863534][sp] I don't think the blunderbuss would make shooting just one finger possible because of it's spread. But yeah I completely agree with you, the ending was a little dissapointing[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He should have shot his whole hand off then.
But then I guess old Joe would try his other hand. So young Joe should shoot off both his hands! But then old Joe would end up kicking the kid to death. Shoot off his legs, too! Except old Joe would wriggle after the kid and bite his throat out. I could see that happening.[/sp]
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