Christmas should be banned
And why take a break just before the last episode? I'd be fine if it was split halfway through.
i dont know what ive missed but the last time i remember they were planning on going for 12+ episodes?
eh, maybe better this way
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;33053211]Christmas should be banned
And why take a break just before the last episode? I'd be fine if it was split halfway through.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it split 7 and 7?
Probably my bad, the Wikipedia page just shows 8 episodes. If there's 14 that's lovely, should carry me over until GoT S2
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33051507]I agree the directing was kind of lame: [sp]If Shane is going to sacrifice him, keep it simple and quick. Shane grabs Otis's gun, then shoots Otis in the leg, then runs for it. That way it's consistent with the idea that zombies are on their ass. With both of them stopped there and wrestling for a bit it makes no sense.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Well he needed the equipment Otis had, and Otis was pissed so he he tried to take Shane down with him.[/sp]
[sp]I still don't understand why he did it. At that point Otis was in better shape even saving Shane several times. And he generally felt bad for shooting Carl, even Rick seemed to understand the circomstances and forgave him.[/sp]
[editline]31st October 2011[/editline]
Also the little girl is totally going to end up sleeping under a tree, and there will to much happiness between the characters that they're not going to ask her why the fuck she ran off in the first place. I mean fuck, anyone could have found their way back to the road, they couldn't have been more than 500 metres away when she ran off.
FUCK, i missed last nights episode and i didn't record it.
[QUOTE=darcy010;33054167][sp]I still don't understand why he did it. At that point Otis was in better shape even saving Shane several times. And he generally felt bad for shooting Carl, even Rick seemed to understand the circomstances and forgave him.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Because Shane is fucking crazy.[/sp]
[sp]I think that Shane really just panicked then and there and it wasn't actually a rational decision. If he had intended to actually do that all along, he'd have maybe left Otis in the locker room (unless he already *was* planning on doing that before Otis saved him).[/sp] It just seems very out of character for Shane to have that in him without it being something that was born out him panicking. [sp]Him shooting impulsively because he was scared as hell and wanted to run *is* rather fitting with his character, although this is definitely the Moral Event Horizon for him.[/sp]
[sp]This would also partially explain why Shane spends the rest of the episode in that shocked state. Not only does he have a 3 ton burden of guilt, he probably still doesn't really get what happened and why. I know he seems like a jerkass for that, and he is, but what would you guys do if you were in that situation?[/sp]
On another note, are they ever going to find Sophia? [sp]They better do it soon, because given what's up with Hershel's Farm in the comics, they might not have much time before they have to leave again[/sp] It's been dragged out into a major sideplot. I mean, can't they at least have segments where Sophia is the POV character? Of course, if the uncertainty is on purpose, then maybe it makes sense. But it's getting annoying ):<
So, none of you is concerned how monotone the characters are?
I wouldn't say they're necessarily monotone. It's just more that a lot of them don't have nearly as much character development as the Grimes', Shane, and some of the others. Which is why I wish they'd shift Point-of-view characters every once in a while. Of course even then, I think they've done a sorta decent job making it so that no one gets totally left out of the equation.
As I said before, this is a tv show, each episode is about 45 minutes, character development will take a while.
Called that ending immediately.
[QUOTE=itak365;33055170]I wouldn't say they're necessarily monotone. It's just more that a lot of them don't have nearly as much character development as the Grimes', Shane, and some of the others. Which is why I wish they'd shift Point-of-view characters every once in a while. Of course even then, I think they've done a sorta decent job making it so that no one gets totally left out of the equation.[/QUOTE]
I watched this new episode, and at some points "derpity derp" was all I could hear coming from their mouths. I couldn't help it.. :/
And yeah character development obviously takes time but good characters are like people where attitudes change. Characters in this show are all somewhat stereotypical, a lot of needless dramatic whining.
Hard to explain, or maybe I'm just picky, but uhh.. there are quite a few series that are a lot more interesting, to me anyway.
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;33055723]Called that ending immediately.[/QUOTE]
It was pretty awesome. He backed him up earlier, and for what? Getting ripped apart. Bad fucking luck. But it was the only way for either of them to survive.
Also gonorrhea diseased redneck druggie being the best thing that ever happened to T-Dog. :v: I love it!
I don't have a problem with character development so much as the basic character design.
Take the missing girl's mom for example. She was the Abused Wife, that was her character. Once they resolved that, she's been the crying mom. It's clear that the writers/creator put no thought into what to do with her character. To say it another way, plot points shouldn't define the character, since once those plot points are over you then have nothing. Andrea should not be defined by the death of her sister. Daryl is an example of a good character concept, even with his brother gone and that plot point over(for now) his character is still interesting.
Holy shit Shane is an asshole
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33056201]I don't have a problem with character development so much as the basic character design.
Take the missing girl's mom for example. She was the Abused Wife, that was her character. Once they resolved that, she's been the crying mom. It's clear that the writers/creator put no thought into what to do with her character. To say it another way, plot points shouldn't define the character, since once those plot points are over you then have nothing. Andrea should not be defined by the death of her sister. Daryl is an example of a good character concept, even with his brother gone and that plot point over(for now) his character is still interesting.[/QUOTE]
Daryl is my favorite character.
Something tells me [sp]Shane will die right before the split. Considering that he seems to now be insane, I bet Carl will still end up shooting him in defending Rick. What a neat cliffhanger that would be.[/sp]
FUCK YES, last nights episode OWNED
i love that Glenn and Darryl is in it even more and more, fav characters
[QUOTE=Pops;33056619]Something tells me [sp]Shane will die right before the split. Considering that he seems to now be insane, I bet Carl will still end up shooting him in defending Rick. What a neat cliffhanger that would be.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Nah, they'll want to [sp]keep him for the rest of the season. If anything they'll kill him in the last episode (14?).[/sp]
I don't really blame [sp]shane or agree with what he did. Think about it, you got a fat guy who can barely keep up and you've got a busted leg and carrying a crap load of medical equipment, meanwhile your best friends boy is dying in some farm house and he is depending on you to come back.[/sp]
What he did wasn't the best thing to do, but moment before he was [sp]backed up against against a fence ready to get eaten.[/sp] I don't think he was able to come up with any other better solution in that situation.
They really, [I]really[/I] need to move on and find Sophia, this is seriously getting into plot stagnation. It would be fine if they were using this down-time for character development, but I haven't really seen too much of it so far. This last episode for some reason felt more jerky and chopped then most of the other ones, not sure why though.
[QUOTE=Tea Guy;33058702]I don't really blame [sp]shane or agree with what he did. Think about it, you got a fat guy who can barely keep up and you've got a busted leg and carrying a crap load of medical equipment, meanwhile your best friends boy is dying in some farm house and he is depending on you to come back.[/sp]
What he did wasn't the best thing to do, but moment before he was [sp]backed up against against a fence ready to get eaten.[/sp] I don't think he was able to come up with any other better solution in that situation.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Otis was moving just as fast and it looked like they were near the truck, it wasn't really necessary.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Tea Guy;33058702]I don't really blame [sp]shane or agree with what he did. Think about it, you got a fat guy who can barely keep up and you've got a busted leg and carrying a crap load of medical equipment, meanwhile your best friends boy is dying in some farm house and he is depending on you to come back.[/sp]
What he did wasn't the best thing to do, but moment before he was [sp]backed up against against a fence ready to get eaten.[/sp] I don't think he was able to come up with any other better solution in that situation.[/QUOTE]
[sp]I think that all it really came down was fear, Shane was too afraid and saw no other way out. I would have done the same thing, maybe run a bit further until it was obvious that they were gonna catch up any moment. Save your best friend's kid and let a stranger die, or vice versa. No one should blame him.[/sp]
Damn, I'm really loving this show.
[QUOTE=GetBent;33060125][sp]Otis was moving just as fast and it looked like they were near the truck, it wasn't really necessary.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Otis was slowing them down, he couldn't keep up and thus the breathers every once in a while. Plus, if they just drove away, the zombies would keep on following them until they hit the farm.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33055897]But it was the only way for either of them to survive.
Also gonorrhea diseased redneck druggie being the best thing that ever happened to T-Dog. :v: I love it![/QUOTE] I think it would be better if [sp]he ran the other direction shooting them and causing noise. If he got killed then that would give Otis more time and he owes him his life.[/sp]
[sp]Shane is a lone wolf/quick thinker. When the power went out in the hospital, he had no choice but to abandon Rick, who for all intents and purposes may as well have been dead then. When Otis and Shane were down to their last bullets, the only obvious option was to leave Otis as bait so that Shane could return with the supplies quicker, considering Otis' weight and semi-occasional breather. Otis himself even says that his weight would be a drag for the both of them. As I write this, I am starting to like Shane's tv version more than the comic version, now I'm pissed that Kirkman killed him off so quick.[/sp]
I'm pretty sure Kirkman said in an interview a while back that he regretted killing off Shane as early as he did.
I loved the last episode but damn, the end pissed me off
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