So people don't like what they did on "Day of the Doctor"? Everything still happens up to this point. After that it changes yeah but that's only for fans that have watched it.
Imagine new fans watching Season 1-7, up to this point they believe it was gone but after they watch this they'll know the truth.
We are like the 11th Doctor, we really know what happend while the others have no idea.
I personally think it's nice, a happy ending and surprise for the 50th Anniversary. Keep calm and trust the Moffat, he got something cooked up i'm sure.
(Dunno if i should spoilertag this)
I really liked it.
And I really don't mind they changed [sp]the ending to the Time War.[/sp]
I don't know if this has been brought up already, or if it's anything of importance or matter[sp]But Osgood, the girl with the scarf, had a prettier older sister, could that be Clara, since she is is also known as Oswin Oswald?[/sp] This is mere wild speculations, but what if....
I can't wait for The Doctor's friends to make constant jokes about the size of his eyebrows when he becomes Capaldi.
[I]yes[/I]
[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;42960713]Never quoted myself before but yeah, to make sense of things.. according to the war doctor/9th/10th, Gallifrey falls and the moment was used. That's WHAT happens, because it has to or the 11th Doctor has no motive whatsoever to be apart of this story, he has no reason to be there.
This is why the previous doctors have to forget or it causes a paradox. It's only on the 11th Doctor's
timeline things change (i.e Gallifrey lives) which means the events of "The End of Time" still make sense, because the moment had been used/gallifrey fell as it's on the 10th Doctor's timeline.
Everything about the time war still happens until the 11th Doctor changes it on his timeline, just see the
previous Doctor's as "anomalies" who helped him.
I hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
But it never said that Gallifrey got destroyed when the link broke and it when back
Into the time war.
That could have happened later in the last day of the time war
Day of the Doctor was awesome, [sp]bit sad that he didn't destroy gallifrey, but its awesome in the long run. CAPALDIIII![/sp]
Also a few more issues with the episode:[sp]If the past doctors all forget these events when they go back to their own timelines, how can the sonic screwdriver retain information?
The Zylon storyline was just a mess throughout.
If Gallifrey was never destroyed, how did the Doctor count the dead?
Crossfire at the distances the Dalek ships would've been orbiting at is basically nonexistent, meaning roughly all the Daleks would've survived (This one might be addressed in a later episode in fairness).[/sp]
Also, how come [sp] three Doctors barely causes a hiccup in the Tardis, yet two Amy Ponds nearly destroyed the universe? (I might've missed the explanation on this one.) [/sp]
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[QUOTE=raptorkid;42961137]Also a few more issues with the episode:[sp]If the past doctors all forget these events when they go back to their own timelines, how can the sonic screwdriver retain information?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Because that only happens [sp]when they actually get back. At the moment they used that little trick, they were still in the same timeline. If that doesn't work, then just say the screwdriver doesn't forget.[/sp]
[QUOTE][sp]If Gallifrey was never destroyed, how did the Doctor count the dead?
[/sp][/QUOTE]
Because at that moment, [sp]Gallifrey had been destroyed for the Doctor.[/sp]
[QUOTE=mvr;42961128]But it never said that Gallifrey got destroyed when the link broke and it when back
Into the time war.
That could have happened later in the last day of the time war[/QUOTE]
But the communication that was made to the Master was on the 10th Doctor's timeline. Like the Time Lords said at the end, they would be left in a "different dimension". What I'm saying is, everything that happens in the Time War before today's episode does still happen, just not on the 11th Doctor's timeline after he changes it
[QUOTE=alien_guy;42960908]Everyone forgets Peter Cushing was the best Dr.
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i diddnt :D
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The screwdriver doesn't have a memory. It's a piece of equipment.
[QUOTE=nightlord;42960670]It's something that should have never been shown. It should of always been a mystery, for this exact reason. It's been shown, and it turned out to be a complete disappointment - one of the most important events for the Doctor never really happened. That he still thinks it happened only makes it worse. It's as if they just shoved an "Everybody lives!" in because it's not like we should actually have the Doctor actually do anything bad, right?[/QUOTE]
But then you could argue, has the 11th Doctor now thrown himself into a parallel universe? There's another mystery.
My inner fanboy exploded
[sp]CAPALDI AND HIS EYES OMG OMG OMG
TOM BAKER TOO THIS IS TOO GREAT[/sp]
I always thought that 'the moment' was meant to freeze the time war entirely, and put it in the time lock I am confused now but still AMAZING
[sp]I think they'll probably return to the Zygon issue at Christmas or something because there's still two Kates AND the two scarf girls had the inhaler trader thingy [/sp]
high on life
Best thing I've ever seen. Fuck the haters. I was spazzing in my cinema seat when the [sp]13[/sp] doctors were flying around Gallifrey. So was the girl next to me.
I really enjoyed that.
I may dislike Matt Smith as a Doctor (but mostly due to the scripts) but I was fine with him in this. I'm a bit sad that Eccleston didn't really make an appearance, though. He's definitely one of my favorite doctors.
[sp]John Hurt threw out such a good performance. I really did feel a lot of sympathy for the character, which was fantastic. I guess that could be why I dislike Smith so much; Eccleston and Tennant had some pretty emotional moments, and it's really hard to stand up to them. I lost it when Baker appeared, though. That fucking girl with the scarf was practically screaming his return and I didn't fucking see it.[/sp]
Really looking forward to Capaldi. Also really satisfied with the ending. [sp]Actually altering the outcome of the time war is an absolutely massive thing, but it has been done in such a way that it does not nullify any of the events leading up to it. Everything would have played out the same to achieve this outcome, and it gives some real room to maneuver for the future of the series.[/sp]
I wish I dressed as Eccleston now. I had the jumper on, but not the jacket and the trousers ugh
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;42961167]Because that only happens [sp]when they actually get back. At the moment they used that little trick, they were still in the same timeline. If that doesn't work, then just say the screwdriver doesn't forget.[/sp][/quote]
But for that to work, [sp]Hurt's Doctor would've had to be in the same timeline as the 12th for 400 years regardless. Could use the Terminator excuse I guess, seems a bit of a cop-out though[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;42961167]
Because at that moment, [sp]Gallifrey had been destroyed for the Doctor.[/sp][/QUOTE]
But surely going by this episode, [sp] Gallifrey has never been destroyed, The Doctor just thought it had?[/sp]
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[QUOTE=Dan2593;42961179]The screwdriver doesn't have a memory. It's a piece of equipment.[/QUOTE]
Then why couldn't Hurt's Doctor [sp]Leave himself a message before departing?[/sp]
This episode was mediocre at best. Maybe I've just been spoiled by the writing on other shows but this episode [sp]was written awfully. Did nobody notice the part where Hurt doctor mentions Rose and Tennant is just like "BAD WOLF GIRL?" and then doesn't question further? Not to mention half the episode serves no real purpose. Did they run out of budget and couldnt finish the Zygon storyline or something?[/sp]
The Five-ish Doctors is AMAZING.
Steven Moffat is a good actor.
[QUOTE][Moffat is asleep, having nightmares about the past companions similar to the 5th Doctor regeneration]
Adric: Steven, it's me isn't it?
[Moffat wakes up]
Adric: Now I'll never know if I was right![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Livewire2440;42961276]This episode was mediocre at best. Maybe I've just been spoiled by the writing on other shows but this episode [sp]was written awfully. Did nobody notice the part where Hurt doctor mentions Rose and Tennant is just like "BAD WOLF GIRL?" and then doesn't question further? Not to mention half the episode serves no real purpose. Did they run out of budget and couldnt finish the Zygon storyline or something?[/sp][/QUOTE]
If anything the more plot holes the more shit they can throw at us at a later date
[QUOTE=Dan2593;42961284][Moffat is asleep, having nightmares about the past companions similar to the 5th Doctor regeneration]
Adric: Steven, it's me isn't it?
[Moffat wakes up]
Adric: Now I'll never know if I was right![/QUOTE]
The explosion bit killed me
I went to see it in the cinema, loved how Strax introduced the cinema rules and then how the two Doctors introduced 3D. Awesome stuff!
[QUOTE=Livewire2440;42961276]This episode was mediocre at best. Maybe I've just been spoiled by the writing on other shows but this episode [sp]was written awfully. Did nobody notice the part where Hurt doctor mentions Rose and Tennant is just like "BAD WOLF GIRL?" and then doesn't question further? Not to mention half the episode serves no real purpose. Did they run out of budget and couldnt finish the Zygon storyline or something?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Who cares?
[QUOTE=Freeze;42961340]I went to see it in the cinema, loved how Strax introduced the cinema rules and then how the two Doctors introduced 3D. Awesome stuff![/QUOTE]
Yeah that was sick. they kind of reused the chin joke in the episode though
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;42961348]Who cares?[/QUOTE]
Anyone who thinks a storyline and its characters should make sense.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief[/url]
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